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To this date, the Claimant has failed to disclose a valid agreement and proof as per their claim that this is enforceable, that Default Notice and Notice of Assignment were sent to and received by the Defendant, on which their claim relies. 12. Point 12 is noted, the Defendant doesn’t recall receiving contact where documentation is provided as per the Claimants obligations under CCA. In addition, the Claimant pleads letters were sent on dates given, yet those are not the letters evidenced in their exhibits *** (dates are wrong) 13. Point 13 is noted and denied. Claimant is put to strict proof to prove allegations. 14. The Claimant did not provide a true copy of the CCA in response to the Defendants request of 21/12/2022. Conclusion 15. Without the Claimant providing a valid true copy of the executed Credit agreement that complies with the CCA, the Claimant has no grounds on which to enforce this alleged debt. 16. The Claimant has been unjustly enriched at the expense of the Defendant by purchasing bulk debt at a greatly reduced cost and subrogating for the original creditor in trying to recuperate the full amount of the original debt 17. The Defendant was not given ample evidence to prove the debt and therefore was not required to enter into settlement negotiations. Should the debt be proved in the future, the Defendant is willing to enter into such negotiations with the Claimant. On receipt of this claim I could not recall the precise details of the agreement or any debt and sought clarity from the claimant by way of a Section 78 request. The Claimant failed to comply. I can only assume as this was due to the Claimant not having any enforceable documentation and issuing a claim in hope of an undefended default judgment. Statement of Truth I, ********, the Defendant, believe the facts stated within this Witness Statement to be true. Signed: _________________________ _______ Dated: _____________________
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Hi Guys,

 

I had a Mr Lender loan a good while back, for only £184. I believe it was nearly statue barred. (Screenshot of noddle report attached)

 

However, yesterday I received from ‘Moriarty Law’ (also attached) and today a County Court Claim form (this is also attached).

 

I’m unsure how to proceed and would really apreaciate the groups advice.

 

Many thanks.

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Sure,

 

Name of the Claimant: Motormile Finance UK LTD (MMF)

 

Date of issue –: 04/08/17

 

What is the claim for – the reason they have issued the claim?

 

The defendant owes the claimant £171 under a regulated loan agreement with PDL Finance LTD T/A Mr Lender. Dated 15/09/2011 and which was assigned to the claimant on 27/10/2012 and notice of which was given to the defendant on the 27/10/2012 (Debt). Despite formal demand for payment of the debt the defendant has failed to pay the claimant claims £171 and further claims interest thereon pursuant to section 69 of the County Court act 1984 limited to one year to the date hereof at the rate of 8% per annum amounting to £13.

What is the value of the claim? £260

 

Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? Payday loan

 

When did you enter into the original agreement before or after 2007? After

 

Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim? It is the debt purchaser.

 

Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? Possibly, I am unsure.

 

Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? It was so long ago I cannot recall.

 

Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Default sums” – at least once a year ? I am unsure.

 

Why did you cease payments? I had a few payday loans back at this time and they all became too much to afford so I began defaulting.

 

What was the date of your last payment? I am unsure, Noddle indicates it was September 2011

 

Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No

 

Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? No

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pop up on the MCOL website detailed on the claimform.

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register as an individual

note the long gateway number given

then log in

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select respond to a claim and select the AOS box.

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then using the details required from the claimform

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defend all

leave jurisdiction unticked.

click thru to the end

confirm and exit MCOL.

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get a CCA Request running to the claimant

leave the £1PO blank and uncrossed

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get a CPR 31:14 request running to the solicitors

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don't sign anything

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dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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well don't await a reply

get looking at suitable defences in the success forum off this one

or here

you DO NOT

miss your defence filing date whatever happens

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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well you don't want them too...think about it??

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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not until you defend as they don't know what you are doing till then do they??

 

plenty of like threads here already to read

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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scan it up to one multipage PDF please

click upload

 

 

did you only have one Mr lender loan or was this a chain.?

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Hi,

 

I have attached the cover letter and the first page of the agreement they have sent to me.

 

This does not seem to be a chain. It appears to me to be a completely different account.

 

I'm getting a little worried now, I'm getting very close to the date I have to file a defence. What should I do next?

 

Many Thanks!!!!

 

I should add, Moriarty Law have completely ignored the CPR letter. This is a good thing right?

MMF Response .pdf

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Does the agreement number match the one in their poc?

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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There is no agreement number in the written POC paragraph. That is exactly as follows:

 

 

"The defendant owes the claimant £171 under a regulated loan agreement with PDL Finance LTD T/A Mr Lender. Dated 15/09/2011 and which was assigned to the claimant on 27/10/2012 and notice of which was given to the defendant on the 27/10/2012 (Debt). Despite formal demand for payment of the debt the defendant has failed to pay the claimant claims £171 and further claims interest thereon pursuant to section 69 of the county court act 1984 limited to one year to the date hereof at the rate of 8% per annum amounting to £13."

 

 

There does not seem to be any agreement numbers anywhere on the Court Claim Form (except for the Claim No.). There is however an agreement number on the letter that came directly from Moriarty Law, I included this number on my CCA. That number is not the same as the agreement number on this recent response.

 

Thanks for all your help Dx, really appreciate it!

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agreement date is diff to the date in the poc too!!

sadly they never get their paperwork right.

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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well if you were taking someone to court wouldn't you make sure the agreement you wish to enforce payment on had the correct date on it and the right agreement number?

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Well that was exactly my thought. However as the CCA went to MMF and the CPR to Moriarty I figured there could just be some confusion?

 

 

Is my next step to create a defence? I have to submit one a week yesterday I believe and don't have a clue where to start :/

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due by 4pm Tuesday

I see you've read like threads

they have the example no paperwork/holding defence

 

 

pers i'd keep the fact that the agreement date and number don't match to yourself for now

see if they want to go all the way to court and disclose it in their WS IF it gets that far.

then you can shoot them infront of the judge in person

 

 

see what andyorch says when he passed by with 5 mins to spare.

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Subbed to thread ...but you will have to nudge me on Monday to take a look.

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I've sat down this morning to have a really good read through other examples of the no paperwork/holding defence and create my own.

 

 

If I am not disclosing at this point that the agreement date and number don't match, am I right in thinking that the main basis for my defence is the fact that they have not responded to the CPR request?

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