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We can finalise it in the morning so you can meet the directions on time. Andy -
Yeah I figured, unlikely I'll need credit anyway mortgage all paid off etc so I'll take that on the chin and learn from the experience. Probably would've beaten that too had I remembered the protocol, first time ever going through the process though sob it wasn't familiar to me Oh well -
By LouLouDev79 · Posted
This is my slightly amended WS taking on board your previous comments, any suggestions for amendments would be most appreciated. Thank you for you time. 1. I am the Defendant in this matter. 2. The facts in this statement come from my personal knowledge. 3. I became aware of original Judgement following a routine credit check on or around 14th September 2020. 4. The alleged Letter of Claim dated 7 January 2020 was served to a previous address which I moved out of in 2018, no effort was made to ascertain my correct address. 5. The Judgement debt was not familiar to me so I began investigations to ascertain what the debt related to and how such a figure had been equated in any event. 6. I made immediate contact with the Court, the Claimant Solicitors and the Claimants thereafter, asking them to provide me with a copy of the original loan agreement but this was not provided to me. 7. I sent a Data Subject access Request to Barclays but no agreement was provided – See appendix 1 which details the timeline of communication between myself and Barclaycard as well as copies of correspondence between us. 8. I do not admit to entering an agreement with Barclaycard in 2000. 9. The claimant has failed to comply with the additional directions ordered by District Judge Davis and therefore this claim should be automatically struck out. 10. The claimants have failed to disclose a true executed copy of the original agreement they refer to within the particulars of this claim. They are not entitled to enforce the agreement pursuant to section 78.6 (a) of the Credit Consumer Act 1974 12. The reconstituted standard Barclaycard agreement that the claimant has included in the court bundle does not satisfy any CCA request and so the claimant is and remains in default of my CCA request and therefore unable to enforce the alleged agreement. 13. The claimants have failed to provide proof the assignment, such as a deed of assignment. 14. The claimant has failed to provide a statement of account setting out how the alleged debt accrued under that agreement 15. Despite numerous requests to the claimant, I have still not seen any evidence, such as an original agreement or deed of assignment, that substantiates the claimant’s assertion that I owe the debt to the claimant, nor evidence of how the debt was accrued. 16. As per CPR 1.4(2)(a) the court encourages parties to cooperate with each other in the conduct of proceedings in order to try and save time and costs for the parties and to also save the time and resources of the court however, despite vast attempts at mediation the claimants have been most unreasonable and have remained unwilling to mediate. I believe that the facts stated in this Witness Statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth. -
A set aside application costs £275 which is more than the judgement so not worth it. Not that they would grant a set aside anyway. Set asides are granted, for example, to people who moved and didn't get the court papers, so have a genuine reason for not defending. Forgetting doesn't count. Your only choices are to pay up within 30 days, or defy the court and not pay. If the latter, we've never seen a PPC enforce judgement for a single ticket, ever, you would get away without paying - but you would have a CCJ and a knackered credit file for six years. -
Is that a CCJ then because I missed the defense deadline? What's this set aside mean?
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