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    • Thank you for your pointers - much appreciated. dx100uk - Apologies, my request wasn't for super urgent advice and I have limited online access due to my long working hours and caring obligations - the delay in my response doesn't arise in any way from disrespect or ingratitude. I will speak to her at the weekend and see if she will open up a bit more about this, and allow me to submit the subject access request you advise - the original creditor is 118 118 loans and from the letter I saw (which prompted the conversation and the information) the debt collection agency had bought the debt from 118 and were threatening enforcement which is when she has made a payment arrangement with them for an amount of £180 per month. It looks as if she queried matters at the time (so I wonder if I might with the FIO request get access to their investigation file?) - the letter they wrote said "The information that you provided has been carefully considered and reviewed. After all relevant enquiries were made it has been confirmed that there is not enough evidence present to conclusively prove that this application was fraudulent.  However, we have removed the interest as a gesture of goodwill. As a result of the findings, you will be held liable for the capital amount on the loan on the basis of the information found during the investigation and you will be pursued for repayment of the loan agreement executed on 2.11.2022 in accordance with Consumer Credit Act 1974"  The amount at that time was over £3600 in arrears, as no payments had been made on it since inception and I think she only found out about it when a default notice came in paper form. I'm a little reluctant to advise her to just stop paying, and would like to be able to form a view in relation to her position and options before unsetting the applecart - do you think this is reasonable? She is young and inexperienced with these things and getting into this situation has brought about a lot of shame regarding inability to sort things out/stand up for herself, which is one of the reasons I have only found out about this considerably later Thank you once again for your advice - it is very much appreciated.    
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Haven't been on this forum for ages (years) but so helpful.

 

For the last 14 months I have been living in a vicious cycle of pay day loans. Not just pay day loans but unsecured high interest loan from 118 money. I am trying desperately to sort my credit rating out and not fall behind with things.

 

I have sent emails to all my pay day lenders asking for a breakdown of my accounts as they can see from Noddle, Experian etc. that they lent me money whilst I still had numerous pay day loans outstanding.

 

I believe having read through endless posts this may well be a case for irresponsible lending? My loan with 118 money is still outstanding but is absolutely astronomical in terms of interest. I borrowed £3000 over 2 years and the interest is front loaded. I asked for a settlement figure and now 10 months after taking it out is still £4000.

 

Could this be a claim for misselling too as they were also more than aware of my outstanding debts.

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Rascal ... Sorry you were missed.

 

 

Do me a favour.. List all your loans, amounts currently at and check all 3 of your CRAs - See what is where. We could help...

 

We could do with some help from you.

 

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Thank you very much am trying (inbetween working) to log on to Experian, noddle and another and am compiling a table. The data does seem to differ from one CRA to the next. In the meanwhile I have contacted all the payday loan lenders and asked for a break down of my accounts. I will try and finish the table today. Thank you again!

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This is from my CRAs although I do not think they are necessarily conclusive. The information recorded is obviously proof that I had the loans but it would take a collaboration with my bank accounts to see how they caused me financial hardship.

 

I recently fell into rent arrears due to being completely overstretched, a relative lent me this money and I have paid it back. I fell behind with council tax for which I had bailiffs attend my property.

 

I fell into arrears with my car which I have only just cleared. All the while these people just kept lending and lending me money. The dates may look sporadic but I was literally robbing from Peter to pay Paul and still am although its getting a lot better.

 

I cant believe I was ever stupid enough to fall into the pay day loan trap. I now have them emailing and calling my work regularly if I don't give a minimum payment. The larger ones such as Wonga have been quite good in starting to look at my complaint etc. but the others just appear to be so unscrupulous.

 

 

28/12/2016 Western Circle Limited 200

05/12/2016 Provident Financial 758

04/11/2016 Lending Stream 800

18/10/2016 Uncle Buck 250

20/09/2016 Western Circle Limited 283

02/09/2016 Wonga 620

13/08/2016 Lending Stream 500

28/05/2016 Payday UK 1025

10/05/2016 118 Money 5000

09/04/2016 Payday UK

12/11/2015 Wonga 900

09/10/2015 Wonga

20/09/2015 Wonga 400

28/04/2015 UK Credit Limted 7000

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Quite a lot of those loans were taken within a short space of time, it is probably not reasonable to expect each lender would have known you had existing loans with other lenders as the CRA's are not always updated that quickly and it depends if you were honest about your outgoings on your affordability forms - did you put into your outgoings the existing loan repayments and lenders? If so, then I would say you MAY have a case for irresponsible lending, if not and you have lied on your application, that's a different matter.

 

Are all of these loans still outstanding?

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No these loans are no longer outstanding. I read somewhere that one of the CRAs works on a real time basis so other lenders can invariably see information from one to another is this not the case?

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Hi Rascal..

 

Ibe added spacing to your post.

 

Its tough to say if you may get anywhere with this, however ill help how I can.

 

You are correct. Callcredit do have a real time lenders update for HCSTC. It is used by all the major Lenders.

Have you read the CAG PDL guide?

 

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Yes thanks I have read the guide.

 

 

There are a couple of things that stood out with me

- for Payday UK and Wonga from what I can ascertain from my records

- no score was given for subsequent loans to the 1st. i.e. just because I had successfully repaid one they did not rescore me on any of the CRAs to ascertain my credit history,

they lent according to their own sense of affordability.

 

 

Im genuinely not expecting a miracle from this.

If anything it has been an extremely tough lesson for me and one that I most definitely will not repeat.

 

 

In an absolute ideal situation for me it would be to have the information removed from my CRA files rather than any refunds or compensation (which to me are just a bonus).

 

 

My main loans which is outstanding is the 118 money one for which the interest is astronomical.

 

 

Whilst I am managing to meet the monthly repayments it has been at the cost of almost robbing Peter to pay Paul.

 

 

My loan with UK Credit was paid in full after my sister offered to transfer the balance to a 16 month 0% interest free credit card for me on the proviso that when I am in better standing with my own credit

 

 

I will be able to refinance and invariably pay her back but this is on an as and when basis its not urgent.

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