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    • thread tidied. new thread for the court claim is here  
    • new thread created for this claimform please post here now for anything to do with it now . pop up on the bulk court website detailed on the claimform. [if it is not working return after the w/end or the next day if week time] . When you select ‘Register’, you will be taken to a screen titled ‘Sign in using Government Gateway’. Choose ‘Create sign in details’ to register for the first time. You will be asked to provide your name, email address, set a password and a memorable recovery word. You will be emailed your Government Gateway 12-digit User ID. You should make a note of your memorable word, or password as these are not included in the email.  then log in to the bulk court Website .  select respond to a claim and select the start AOS box. .  then using the details required from the claimform . defend all leave jurisdiction unticked  you DO NOT file a defence at this time [BUT you MUST file a defence regardless by day 33 ] click thru to the end confirm and exit the website .. get a CCA Request running to the claimant . https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/332502-cca-request-consumer-credit-act-1974-updated-january-2015/ .. Leave the £1 PO unsigned and uncrossed . get a CPR  31:14  request running to the solicitors [if one is not listed send to the claimant] ... https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/332546-legal-cpr-3114-request-request-for-information-when-a-claim-has-been-issued/ . .use our other CPR letter if the claim is for an OD or Telecom Debt or Util debt]  https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/332546-legal-cpr-3114-request-request-for-information-when-a-claim-has-been-issued/ on BOTH type your name ONLY Do Not sign anything .do not ever use or give an email . you DO NOT await the return of ANY paperwork  you MUST file a defence regardless by day 33 from the date on the claimform [1 in the count] ..............  
    • Which Court have you received the claim from ? Northampton  Name of the Claimant ? lowell Solicitors : Overdales solicitors  How many defendant's  joint or self ? Self Date of issue – top right hand corner of the claim form – this in order to establish the time line you need to adhere to.  13 may 2024 What is the claim for – the reason they have issued the claim? 1. the claim is for the sum of £6163.61due by the defendant under an agreement regulated by the consumer credit act 1974 for hsbc uk bank plc. Account (16 digits) 2. The defendant failed to maintain contractual payments required by the agreement and a default notice was served under s 87(1)  of the consumer credit act 1974 which as not been compiled with. 3. The debt was legally assigned to the Claimant on 23/08/23, notice on which as been given to the defendant.  4. The claim includes statutory interest under S.69 of the county courts act 1984 at a rate of 8% per annum from the date of assignment to the date of issue of these proceedings in the sum of £117.53 the Claimant claims the sum of £6281.14. Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ?   Not to my knowledge. Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? Online but it was for a smaller amount they kept on increasing this with me asking Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. It was assigned to a debt collection agency  Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? yes  Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? Yes I also made offers to pay original creditor a smaller amount but was not replied to Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? No Why did you cease payments? I was made redundant and got a less paid job I also spent some time on furlough during covid and spent some 3 months on ssp off work. What was the date of your last payment? May 2021 Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? Yes at the time I communicated with all my creditor's that I was running out of funds to pay the original agreements once my redundancy money ran out that was when my accounts defaulted. I then wrote to all my creditor's with pro rata offers of payments but debt collectors took over the accounts.
    • Just an update for all. I received about a letter every other week, increasing in threat levels. Then I hadn't had one for a about two weeks, then Saturday received a carbon copy of the very first letter they sent me in February. Made me laugh, rinse and repeat. 
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So they think you are requesting a section 77 for the loan rather than a section 78 for a credit card (the latest Claim) ?

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basically yes but i have sent them the claim number cant do no more than that they should be able to see what court action they have or their solicitors have instigated against me, even their solicitors have not replied to my request we shall wait and see

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Claim number does not cut the mustard mystirio...for your section 78 request to be legally valid it must contain the agreement number that you are requesting.

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yes but no agreement number supplied

 

5. On receipt of this claim I requested information pertaining to this claim from Mortimer Clarke Solicitors and Cabot Financial(UK) Ltd. by way of a CPR 31.14 and a section 78 request.

To date, no response has been received from Mortimer Clarke .

 

 

have had a response from Cabot Financial(UK) Ltd stating as follows..

I have been unable to locate your account under the details listed requested under section 77-79 of the consumer creditlink3.gif act

 

 

no account number given on form therefore asked for under details supplied on N1 POClink3.gif .

 

 

It is respectfully suggested that the claimant should be aware of the agreement number they allege is outstanding and which their claim relies upon.

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Thats irrelevant really and a problem the claimant is going to find difficult to overcome to proceed with its claim...but you shouldn't require a court claim to be able to request information of any agreement you hold with a creditor vis a section 77/78 requests.

 

What would you have done if you wanted information on the agreement for say PPI and had not been served a court claim?

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i would check my credit report to see what debt you would have and and they should have had the account number but this is not down on the credit report

 

therefore if it is not down on the credit report it is over 6 yrs old am i correct I am not very familiar with the law but every man to himself if you would like to know how to catch a salmon then you would not get any better than me

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Well if they dont know what agreement they rely on to enforce the agreement...they aint gonna get far...and you dont know having not retained any statements or paperwork ...therefore I would suggest a CCA request is irrelevant in this instance (although it would add great power to any defence) as the claim cant proceed without that number.

 

But if they do have it and do disclose it at the relevant stage...what then ?

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but surely they must stated it on the paperwork

or they were deliberatly avoiding it

 

Already covered that above...Post#81

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and as the last statment from them saying it was an account for a loan that also is a lie stated court papers number which they should have checked

 

today 2 letters from cabot 1st one saying that they could not find my account with details provided 2nd one saying they have found my details with all the account numbers this is truly baffling dont know what to do now or which way to turn

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nothing

next move is theirs

 

 

so they've send the agreement?

 

 

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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ai they sent a paper with listing all the fiquires

 

but the court dead line is 16th i have filled defence ??? on previous correspondance

 

correction mortimer clarke have sent it not cabot

 

this is baffling me a few years ago i suffered ptsd after the army and was better but this makes my head spin???:???:

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documents hidden

 

 

you MUST REDACT things you put up

this is a PUBLIC forum

 

 

follow the upload guide

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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that's just a statement whereby they have added the litigation fess that will be added should they 'win'

no signed agreement

so stuff all to worry about

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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You can still be identified from the cabot ref numbers but it does also show the credit card account number

Which means you can cca them again

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Yes there is, resend it complete with bc account number as reference and edit it to read s78 and not s77-79. S78 is specific for credit card accounts

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but my defence end date is 16th but got to be in by 14th they would not get it in time to reply

 

Makes no odds...send the CCA request

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ok interesting point though they knew which account number it was also that it was going to court as they have added charges to the statment as they had won the case or it was already settled in court dated 30th sept issued the 14th sept +5 +14 days to acknowledge that takes it to 5th monday??odd

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They are trying to confuse you and its working!

 

They know exactly what they are doing, you must stick to the correct procedures inspite of what they do or dont do.

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Doesnt need to be recorded delivery, free proof of posting is all you need

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