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Do you not want any comment on your CPR 18.....post here for opinions?

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I did not think about that, let's see if I have got this right:

 

IN THE XXXXXX county court CLAIM NO: XXXXX BETWEEN:

 

MKDP LLP

and

XXXXX

_________________________ _________________________ ___________________

PART 18 REQUEST FOR FURTHER INFORMATION dated 22 June 2015

_________________________ _________________________ ___________________

 

 

To: MKDP LLP

Please answer the following questions:

 

1. Provide a copy of the statement showing the last payment made on account for account XXXXX relating to the claimed outstanding debt of £12,197.67 I have not received details of the particulars of the claim, other than those stated on the County Court Claim Form which does not contain this information.

2. Provide a breakdown of how the amount of £12,197.67 is made up, ensure charges, PPI fees, interest added and all other fees and charges not specifically mentioned here are clearly itemised. I have not received details of the particulars of the claim, other than those stated on the County Court Claim Form.

3. Provide a copy the original agreement for the loan/overdraft of £12,197.67

 

 

TAKE NOTICE THAT YOU ARE REQUIRED TO ANSWER THE ABOVE REQUEST WITHIN 14 DAYS OF SERVICE OF THE SAME UPON YOU WHICH IS 6TH JULY 2015.

 

 

Yours faithfully,

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Cant ask for documents...only ask questions with regards to the debt......

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This is why I am not a solicitor, Can I ask:

 

Confirm the date of the last payment details made on account XXXXXX that is clearly a repayment of this alleged debt, and served to reduce the outstanding amount of the claim of £12,197.67? And are you in possession of documents clearly stating this as a fact?

 

Does this claim relate to an overdraft facility or a loan with HSBC? (I have not had an overdraft of more than 1500 that I can recall)

 

At what date was the original agreement with HSBC leading to this claim signed?

 

How much of the aledged debt of £12,197.67 is made up of charges, PPI fees, interest and added bank charges?

 

I am assuming from the dates that this is close to the statue of limitation, and I need to check which date the last payment actually was made, in case it is different from Noddle's dates. I am still not sure what this is, or what makes up the 12K, any pointers gratefully received.

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Before you make a claim, you must write to the supplier of the goods or service

giving them a specific time, such as 14 days, to correct any fault and that failing this,

you will take action in the county court. This is called aletter before action’ and

should be sent by recorded delivery. The court will not allow you to make a claim

unless the defendant has been informed and given a chance to correct any fault

before you do so.

 

I found the above on Citizens Advice Bureau, I have double checked all mail, and I do not see any missed deliveries, nor have my neighbours received any mail on my behalf, can I use this as part of my defence or to get it thrown out?

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This is why I am not a solicitor, Can I ask:

 

Confirm the date of the last payment details made on account XXXXXX that is clearly a repayment of this alleged debt, and served to reduce the outstanding amount of the claim of £12,197.67? And are you in possession of documents clearly stating this as a fact?

 

Does this claim relate to an overdraft facility or a loan with HSBC? (I have not had an overdraft of more than 1500 that I can recall)

 

At what date was the original agreement with HSBC leading to this claim signed?

 

How much of the aledged debt of £12,197.67 is made up of charges, PPI fees, interest and added bank charges?

 

I am assuming from the dates that this is close to the statue of limitation, and I need to check which date the last payment actually was made, in case it is different from Noddle's dates. I am still not sure what this is, or what makes up the 12K, any pointers gratefully received.

 

Any comments/pointers of the above before I send off the letter?

Thank you in advance.

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I would just keep it simple........confirm what type of debt the claim refers to ......Overdraft...loan or Credit card....the rest you deal with subject to their response.

 

 

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