What would happen

[mikeymack2002]

What would happen in the UK if we took the view of what New Zealand has done

read here

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA1407/S00291/fine-dodgers-paying-up-to-avoid-driving-ban.htm

[unclebulgaria67]

NZ has very right wing PM John Keys, who is a personal friend of David Cameron. Lets just hope that Cameron does not get any ideas.

[Coughdrop]

I think the vast majority pay fairly quickly. Whilst I don't have any figures to back this up, I imagine the percentage of willful, determined non-payers are small. Personally I would have no issue with that approach being taken over here.

 

When I had bailiffs on my back I did everything possible to repay and I succeeded eventually, despite their underhand tricks. Similarly with debts I am trying my best to repay, but I'm a 'Can't get blood out of a stone' situation.

 

I see no reason why I (and many others like me) should struggle to pay off their dues while a percentage get away with just not bothering.

 

For the record I claim no benefits, but would be better off if I could (caught in what economists call the poverty trap). I am disabled and have serious and permanent mental health problems. There is no doubt whatsoever about my extreme vulnerability.

 

If I can do it, I'm sure others can. Like me, they may need help in organising things, or even POA's put in place to enable this to happen.

[brassnecked]

No doubrt the BPA and Parking Eye would love that sanction to be extended to their speculative invoices, the removal of Driving License sanction is already here, as CSA can do it against a parent who won't pay up I believe

[tomtubby]

No doubrt the BPA and Parking Eye would love that sanction to be extended to their speculative invoices, the removal of Driving License sanction is already here, as CSA can do it against a parent who won't pay up I believe

 

They would have to step over my dead body first !!!

[Surfer01]

What would happen in the UK if we took the view of what New Zealand has done

read here

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA1407/S00291/fine-dodgers-paying-up-to-avoid-driving-ban.htm

 

I think it is an excellent idea if implemented properly and any one ignoring a ban should be jailed. However bailiff costs should be fixed.

[old bill]

If Dodgy Dave and Failing Grayling attempted to introduce such a measure in the UK, any such measure would have to be done by use of a Substitution Order and exclude decriminalised local authority PCNs. If it was implemented without the sanction of the court that imposed the original fine, I suspect it would be unlawful. The Tories have form for changing the law to make it fit their law-breaking and breaking the law. Lord Michael Howard was found guilty of acting unlawfully, whilst Home Secretary, on at least seven occasions. Not a good example to set.

[ericsbrother]

There are already 2 million people drivng around without a licence or insurance and there has been little reduction in that since the passing of new laws regarding SORN's etc. If you bring out laws that are draconian the penalty for breaking the law becomes less of a threat and so loses its deterrence, a reverse of what was intended. So, introduce hanging for parking offenders and all of the traffic wardens will be murdered becuse you only get about 8 years in prison for that. No parking wardens, no enforcement of parking offences so no-one liable to hanging but a massive increase in the crime rate, the reverse of what was intended.

[old bill]

There are already 2 million people drivng around without a licence or insurance and there has been little reduction in that since the passing of new laws regarding SORN's etc. If you bring out laws that are draconian the penalty for breaking the law becomes less of a threat and so loses its deterrence, a reverse of what was intended. So, introduce hanging for parking offenders and all of the traffic wardens will be murdered becuse you only get about 8 years in prison for that. No parking wardens, no enforcement of parking offences so no-one liable to hanging but a massive increase in the crime rate, the reverse of what was intended.

 

I would take anything the insurance industry says with a lorryload of salt. Even the police admit they have seized vehicles on the say-so of some insurance company drone, only to find out later that the insurance company had blundered, making the police look incompetent and bullies.

 

I have spoken to the ICO about such blunders by insurance companies and they have informed me they have no qualms about fining them. However, they do need more motorists to tell them what is going on. Given the ICO can impose a fine of up £500,000, the more motorists who shop insurers to the ICO, the more the buggers will be fined.

 

The politicians are dancing not to the tune of the electors, but that of the bankers, insurers and major corporations who have utter contempt for the law and rule of law and will say and do anything to further their quest for profits and power and have no qualms who they trample over or kill to do so. It is for us, the people, to stand up to them and say "No. Enough is enough," and hold those who are supposed to act as a safety barrier against corporate abuse of power to account and insist they do their job as we, the people, tell them.