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After 1y lender finally agreed to sell to the 1st offeror and contracts went with lawyers.  Within 1 month lender reneged.  Lender tried to suggest buyer walked. Evidence shows he/ his lawyers continued trying to exchange (cash) for 4 months.  Evidence shows lender and receiver strategy had been to renege and for ceo to take control.   I still think that's their plan. Redact and scan said evidence up for others to look at? Lender then stupidly chose to pretty much bulldoze the property.  Other stuff was going on in the background. After repo I was in touch by phone and email and lender knew post got to me.   Despite this, after about 10 months (before and then during covid), they deliberately sent SDs and eventually a B petition to an incorrect address and an obscure small court.  They never served me properly.  (In hindsight I understand they hoped to get a backdoor B - so they could keep the property that way.)  Eventually the random court told them to email me by way of service.  At this point their ruse to make me B failed.  I got a lawyer (friend paid). The B petition was struck out. They’d failed to include the property as an asset. They were in breach of insolvency rules. So this is dealt with then. Simultaneously the receiver again appointed lawyers to act on my behalf as leaseholder. This time to serve notice on the freeholders for a lease extension.  He had hoped to try and vary the strict lease. 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A simple agreement to remedy the breaches and recompense the freeholders in compensation - and there's have been clean title to sell.  That option was proposed to them.   This happened by way of mediation for all parties 2y ago.  A resolution option was put forward and in principle agreed.  But immediately after the lender lawyers failed to engage.  A hard lesson to learn - mediation cannot be referred to in court. It's considered w/o prejudice. The steps they took have made no difference to their ability to sell the property.  Almost 3y since they finished works they still haven't sold. ** ** I followed up some leads myself.  A qualified cash buyer offered me a substantial sum.  The lender and receiver both refused it.   I found another offer in disclosure.  6 months later someone had apparently offered a substantial sum via an agent.  The receiver again rejected it.  The problem of course was that the agent had inflated the market price to get the business. 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Hello

 

Hope this is in the right place.

 

Attached is the letter i have received as i have had a maor stumbling blovk with selling the house as they wont complete whilst this is still on?

 

Is it too late for them to enforce the charging restriction being from 2006 or am i liable to pay this form the profits from the sale if i agree?

 

Thanks in advance

 

Michael

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Your solicitor can give an undertaking to the buyers that the restriction will be paid from the proceeds of the sale and the restriction will then be removed. A similar undertaking can be given to NR ie they will be paid from the proceeds on the understanding they remove the restriction.

 

Be careful though, check the restriction for the actual amount owed to ensure NR haven't added sums on.

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Pity your buyers want the restricition dealt with before purchase! Link could have been informed that the property had been sold after completion, and sadly they got nothing!

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Thanks for that, i just wasn't sure regarding the original date of 2006, whether they could enforce this still, but looks like they can.

 

again, thanks for your advice

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Looking at the letter I am assuming you were the person asking for the redemption figure?

 

Big mistake, a restriction should not prevent the sale of your house, your solicitor could write to Link and inform them the property had been sold, once completed!

 

Hi

 

No this was from Solex Legal Services, who were dealing with all stuff for me.

 

I just didnt have a clue what they could and could not do

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Sorry, didn't read the letter properly, edited the post!

L/Woods B/Card/Cabot - Unenforceable CCA, SD Issued *WON+COSTS*

Capital One/Cabot - No CCA account irrecoverable.

Citi/DLC Hillesden - No CCA account irrecoverable

MBNA/Aegis - Unenforceable CCA

B/Card/HFO - Unenforceable CCA

Fashion World - No CCA account irrecoverable

TRUECALL IS A GODSEND!!

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Pity your buyers want the restricition dealt with before purchase! Link could have been informed that the property had been sold after completion, and sadly they got nothing!

 

to be honest, i dont think they want it removing as i just think Solex were informed there was a restriction on the property and basically just put the brakes on things moving until they heard from Link

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It looks like the OP solicitor asking for the redemption figure, some solicitors are not savvy in these matters!

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Capital One/Cabot - No CCA account irrecoverable.

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B/Card/HFO - Unenforceable CCA

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Hi mickyg, in your original post you say

"they wont complete whilst this is still on" you make it sound like you mean the buyer and or their solicitor.

 

Can you give a bit more info on how far on you are with the selling of the property ???

 

Do you have a solicitor and does the buyer yet,

and if so have either solicitors mentioned anything about the restriction

which will show on your propertys land registry documents ???

 

Also you 100% sure you have a restriction ???

 

This should be from a CCJ in one name only and your property should be jointly owned by someone else

who has nothing to do with the CCJ ???

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Hi mickyg, in your original post you say "they wont complete whilst this is still on" you make it sound like you mean the buyer and or their solicitor. Can you give a bit more info on how far on you are with the selling of the property ??? Do you have a solicitor and does the buyer yet, and if so have either solicitors mentioned anything about the restriction which will show on your propertys land registry documents ??? Also you 100% sure you have a restriction ??? This should be from a CCJ in one name only and your property should be jointly owned by someone else who has nothing to do with the CCJ ???

 

Hi

 

Thanks for the reply.

 

I think the restriction came about once the wife made an enquirer to re-mortgage, so no solicitors have made any direct enquiry about it.

 

Regarding the restriction i know i had a CCJ from around that time and it was my name only on that.

 

Regards,

 

Michael

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OK so presuming this is just a restriction.

 

(1) Are you actually selling your house ???

 

(2) If yes have you agreed a sale with a buyer

and have they employed a solicitor to act on their behalf for the sale ???

 

(3) Again if yes have you got a solicitor ???

 

Is it solex legal services ???

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OK so presuming this is just a restriction.(1) Are you actually selling your house ??? (2) If yes have you agreed a sale with a buyer and have they employed a solicitor to act on their behalf for the sale ??? (3) Again if yes have you got a solicitor ??? Is it solex legal services ???

 

Yes, looking to sell the house

Agreed selling price with the buyer, and they have a solictor, but they havent once mentioned the the restriction as it has only came out once the re-mortgage query was raised before the selling issue came about

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But the letter was only dated less than 2 weeks ago ??? How come you were looking to remortgage and now you are selling and have a sale agreed within such a short space of time ???

 

Yeah, this letter was issued as i was chasing Solex as all they could tell me was there a restriction on the property and that was it. After weeks of chasing they said it was Northern Rock, NRAM, Marlin and finally Link who had it.

 

They only send this letter over this week.

 

The change of heart was due to the fact a buyer had came in and viewed and wanted to buy pretty much straight away and i was giving up hope of selling, so just went down the re-mortgage route to do the house up and stop there.

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as a side note

 

don't pay link a penny

 

they would have bought this debt for pennies

 

go direct to NR if it does need dealing with.

 

dx

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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as a side note

 

don't pay link a penny

 

they would have bought this debt for pennies

 

go direct to NR if it does need dealing with.

 

dx

 

Thanks for the reply and advice.

 

Would this not hold up the sale though?

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You must have some equity in the property then if you were recently thinking about remortgaging ??? If yes i presume there would be enough left over to pay this debt of less than 7k ???

 

Yeah, i just didnt want to pay it if i didnt have to, as ive been caught out a fe times in the past before i discovered helpful sites like this.

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I go with what has already been indicated by others

 

the restriction should not prevent the remortgage or sale.

 

tough luck its done now link

 

no money to be had.

 

shame solex? is it

even told them it was going on!!

 

someone doesn't know what they are doing....

 

If as you indicate it changed hands many times

that to me SMELLS that there is something wrong with the whole debacle surrounding the restriction

and how it was obtained.

 

it originated from northern rock, ? did they put it on

or was it a fleecing DCA, that wouldn't surprise me.

 

shame it's so old, else you could start scratching at the surface via a few SAR's

 

I bet whatever it was, was inflated vastly by PENALTY charges & PPI etc etc.

 

to ramp up the value to squeeze every penny out of you.

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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I go with what has already been indicated by others

 

the restriction should not prevent the remortgage or sale.

 

tough luck its done now link

 

no money to be had.

 

shame solex? is it

even told them it was going on!!

 

someone doesn't know what they are doing....

 

If as you indicate it changed hands many times

that to me SMELLS that there is something wrong with the whole debacle surrounding the restriction

and how it was obtained.

 

it originated from northern rock, ? did they put it on

or was it a fleecing DCA, that wouldn't surprise me.

 

shame it's so old, else you could start scratching at the surface via a few SAR's

 

I bet whatever it was, was inflated vastly by PENALTY charges & PPI etc etc.

 

to ramp up the value to squeeze every penny out of you.

 

dx

 

A very informative post, thanks again.

 

I can send details to Link asking for information on this and ask them to remove the restriction?

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no not exactly

 

pers i'd be seeing what an SAR to NR throws up first

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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I was in a very similar situation to yours earlier this year and

 

sold my property no problem.

 

Once the sale went through the new owners solicitor informed land registry of the sale

and land registry removed the restriction because it applies to someone who no longer owns the propety.

 

My restriction has now as such reverted back to a CCJ and

 

i am getting letters from the debt owners solicitor asking when i am going to start paying the CCJ off.

 

This will obviously happen to you also but im not sure if the CCJ becomes almost Stat Barred if it is more than 6 years old as it sounds yours might be ???

 

Others may be able to advise better.

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