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    • further polished WS using above suggestions and also included couple of more modifications highlighted in orange are those ok to include?   Background   1.1  The Defendant received the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) on the 06th of January 2020 following the vehicle being parked at Arla Old Dairy, South Ruislip on the 05th of December 2019.   Unfair PCN   2.1  On 19th December 2023 the Defendant sent the Claimant's solicitors a CPR request.  As shown in Exhibit 1 (pages 7-13) sent by the solicitors the signage displayed in their evidence clearly shows a £60.00 parking charge notice (which will be reduced to £30 if paid within 14 days of issue).  2.2  Yet the PCN sent by the Claimant is for a £100.00 parking charge notice (reduced to £60 if paid within 30 days of issue).   2.3        The Claimant relies on signage to create a contract.  It is unlawful for the Claimant to write that the charge is £60 on their signs and then send demands for £100.    2.4        The unlawful £100 charge is also the basis for the Claimant's Particulars of Claim.  No Locus Standi  3.1  I do not believe a contract with the landowner, that is provided following the defendant’s CPR request, gives MET Parking Services a right to bring claims in their own name. Definition of “Relevant contract” from the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4,  2 [1] means a contract Including a contract arising only when the vehicle was parked on the relevant land between the driver and a person who is-   (a) the owner or occupier of the land; or   (b) Authorised, under or by virtue of arrangements made by the owner or occupier of the land, to enter into a contract with the driver requiring the payment of parking charges in respect of the parking of the vehicle on the land. According to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/section/44   For a contract to be valid, it requires a director from each company to sign and then two independent witnesses must confirm those signatures.   3.2  The Defendant requested to see such a contract in the CPR request.  The fact that no contract has been produced with the witness signatures present means the contract has not been validly executed. Therefore, there can be no contract established between MET Parking Services and the motorist. Even if “Parking in Electric Bay” could form a contract (which it cannot), it is immaterial. There is no valid contract.  Illegal Conduct – No Contract Formed   4.1 At the time of writing, the Claimant has failed to provide the following, in response to the CPR request from myself.   4.2        The legal contract between the Claimant and the landowner (which in this case is Standard Life Investments UK) to provide evidence that there is an agreement in place with landowner with the necessary authority to issue parking charge notices and to pursue payment by means of litigation.   4.3 Proof of planning permission granted for signage etc under the Town and country Planning Act 1990. Lack of planning permission is a criminal offence under this Act and no contract can be formed where criminality is involved.   4.4        I also do not believe the claimant possesses these documents.   No Keeper Liability   5.1        The defendant was not the driver at the time and date mentioned in the PCN and the claimant has not established keeper liability under schedule 4 of the PoFA 2012. In this matter, the defendant puts it to the claimant to produce strict proof as to who was driving at the time.   5.2 The claimant in their Notice To Keeper also failed to comply with PoFA 2012 Schedule 4 section 9[2][f] while mentioning “the right to recover from the keeper so much of that parking charge as remains unpaid” where they did not include statement “(if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met)”.     5.3         The claimant did not mention parking period, times on the photographs are separate from the PCN and in any case are that arrival and departure times not the parking period since their times include driving to and from the parking space as a minimum and can include extra time to allow pedestrians and other vehicles to pass in front.    Protection of Freedoms Act 2012   The notice must -   (a) specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;  22. In the persuasive judgement K4GF167G - Premier Park Ltd v Mr Mathur - Horsham County Court – 5 January 2024 it was on this very point that the judge dismissed this claim.  5.4  A the PCN does not comply with the Act the Defendant as keeper is not liable.  No Breach of Contract   6.1       No breach of contract occurred because the PCN and contract provided as part of the defendant’s CPR request shows different post code, PCN shows HA4 0EY while contract shows HA4 0FY. According to PCN defendant parked on HA4 0EY which does not appear to be subject to the postcode covered by the contract.  6.2         The entrance sign does not mention anything about there being other terms inside the car park so does not offer a contract which makes it only an offer to treat,  Interest  7.1  It is unreasonable for the Claimant to delay litigation for  Double Recovery   7.2  The claim is littered with made-up charges.  7.3  As noted above, the Claimant's signs state a £60 charge yet their PCN is for £100.  7.4  As well as the £100 parking charge, the Claimant seeks recovery of an additional £70.  This is simply a poor attempt to circumvent the legal costs cap at small claims.  7.5 Since 2019, many County Courts have considered claims in excess of £100 to be an abuse of process leading to them being struck out ab initio. An example, in the Caernarfon Court in VCS v Davies, case No. FTQZ4W28 on 4th September 2019, District Judge Jones-Evans stated “Upon it being recorded that District Judge Jones- Evans has over a very significant period of time warned advocates (...) in many cases of this nature before this court that their claim for £60 is unenforceable in law and is an abuse of process and is nothing more than a poor attempt to go behind the decision of the Supreme Court v Beavis which inter alia decided that a figure of £160 as a global sum claimed in this case would be a penalty and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss and therefore unenforceable in law and if the practice continued, he would treat all cases as a claim for £160 and therefore a penalty and unenforceable in law it is hereby declared (…) the claim is struck out and declared to be wholly without merit and an abuse of process.”  7.6 In Claim Nos. F0DP806M and F0DP201T, District Judge Taylor echoed earlier General Judgment or Orders of District Judge Grand, stating ''It is ordered that the claim is struck out as an abuse of process. The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the Defendant contracted to pay. This additional charge is not recoverabl15e under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4 nor with reference to the judgment in Parking Eye v Beavis. It is an abuse of process from the Claimant to issue a knowingly inflated claim for an additional sum which it is not entitled to recover. This order has been made by the court of its own initiative without a hearing pursuant to CPR Rule 3.3(4)) of the Civil Procedure Rules 1998...''  7.7 In the persuasive case of G4QZ465V - Excel Parking Services Ltd v Wilkinson – Bradford County Court -2 July 2020 (Exhibit 4) the judge had decided that Excel had won. However, due to Excel adding on the £60 the Judge dismissed the case.  7.8        The addition of costs not previously specified on signage are also in breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015, Schedule 2, specifically paras 6, 10 and 14.   7.9        It is the Defendant’s position that the Claimant in this case has knowingly submitted inflated costs and thus the entire claim should be similarly struck out in accordance with Civil Procedure Rule 3.3(4).   In Conclusion   8.1        I invite the court to dismiss the claim.  Statement of Truth  I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.   
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My husband has been placed once again in WRAG group at renewal; however we were not notified of this decision until the JCP advisor rang, and she told us it was for 2 years this time. We requested all of the information held from DWP, upon reading through they state my husband was assessed at a medical - but he has never had one for ESA! Even the JCP lady thinks he should be in Support Group, she advised him to appeal and it was a real shock to see what has been written. So my question is, where do we go from here? Do I add this further information to his appeal or do I keep this back in case its needed at a tribunal?

 

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'...... where do we go from here?'

 

It's not clear from what you've written what's happened so far. Is '...... all of the information held ......' their statement of reasons for the decision? Does it include an ESA85A report? Has your husband asked Jobcentreplus to 'look at their decision again', or made a formal written appeal via letter or a GL24 form?

 

CAG's guide to appeals should help you to understand the appeals procedure;

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?251737-Appealing-or-going-to-a-Tribunal-Some-useful-information

 

Far from unusual for Atos/Jobcentreplus to find non existent face to face assessments and Med 3 (unfit) notes. They're very good at losing medical evidence as well. :roll:

 

If your husband hasn't already submitted a formal written appeal he can use the non existent face to face assessment to discredit Jobcentreplus evidence, and it should certainly be mentioned in a tribunal submission. But its more important to identify, and evidence, the support group criteria you believe he meets.

 

Sincerely, Margaret. :panda:

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My husband was again placed in the ESA WRAG group for a further 2 years. We have appealed this decison but today received a letter saying the original decision still stands as no further evidence was submitted and all details have now been passed to Tribunal. However the appeals letter we put in did contain other evidence and the reasons why we feel he should be in the Support Group. We know this was received as it was sent signed for delivery. But all of these details have been omitted from the details sent to the Tribunals and have not been taken into account when looking at the decision again. Whats my position now? I have no idea how I can get my husband to the tribunal as he wont answer the door or phone, let alone travel 90 miles to a tribunal in front of strangers. Can anyone make any suggestions as to my next move please.

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From my understanding of the process what will happen next is that HMCTS will send you (well your husband) a letter about the tribunal. This will possibly be about 2-3 weeks after the DWP have passed your appeal onto them. Part of this letter from HMCTS will include a form for you to return, and part of this form is whether you want to attend the tribunal in person to present your case, or let it consider the evidence on paper. Since you say you will not be able to get your husband to travel to the tribunal you would indicate on the form that you want them to consider the evidence on paper, and submit with it your complete summary of the case.

 

(And yes, the DWP do seem to be quite capable of ignoring other evidence contained in your appeal letter to them, and stating in their evidence to the tribunal that there wasn't any.)

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When the DWP say no new evidence has been submitted, they mean 'new' as is nothing they didn't know from the ESA50 and the important bit is they don't feel they should change their minds so not to worry about that. You can send in your additional evidence to the Tribunal service when you submit your stuff to them. You can either submit your appeal on paper only, the statistics show that very few people succeed that way though so that is not recommended or your husband could give his permission for you to attend on his behalf which at least means the panel can ask you questions and you can answer (I've gone to a tribunal on someone else's behalf before and that appeal was allowed) or your husband could go with you supporting him. If he goes, that gives the best chance of success, statistics show, as the panel can hear from him how he is affected by his illness or disability.

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My husband was again placed in the ESA WRAG group for a further 2 years. We have appealed this decison but today received a letter saying the original decision still stands as no further evidence was submitted and all details have now been passed to Tribunal. However the appeals letter we put in did contain other evidence and the reasons why we feel he should be in the Support Group. We know this was received as it was sent signed for delivery. But all of these details have been omitted from the details sent to the Tribunals and have not been taken into account when looking at the decision again. Whats my position now? I have no idea how I can get my husband to the tribunal as he wont answer the door or phone, let alone travel 90 miles to a tribunal in front of strangers. Can anyone make any suggestions as to my next move please.
Your asked the same back in August 2013 http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?400881-Info-from-DWP-re-appeal

 

+ http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?391505-contribs-based-ESA-ended

Please use the quote system, So everyone will know what your referring too, thank you ...

 

 

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Send the evidence yourself to the Tribunal Service, and if you are going the route of a paper appeal, make sure you prepare a thorough submission, with evidence on how your husband meets both WRAG and the appropriate support group descriptor, exemption, or reg 29/35.

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:frusty: Somewhere between the Tatos mail addresses and the decision makers' in trays there's a gynormous black hole that swallows up all the supportive evidence we attach to ESA50s and GL24s. Then Mr Hoban and Ms McVey bleat (there's no other word for it) that claimants withhold evidence until the tribunal stage!!! For which the translation's; sub-standard assessments (even by Tatos standards, with or without a face to face), rubber stamped by decision makers, and they'll leave the Tribunals Service to sort the fall out!!! This time last year a friend of mine had a partially upheld complaint against Tatos but Jobcentreplus still wouldn't revise.

 

www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?251737-Appealing-or-going-to-a-Tribunal-Some-useful-Information

 

The above link is CAG's guide to appeals. Pages 10 - 12 and 25 - 27 of the 6th link in #1, outline the criteria for an award of employment n support allowance with the support component.

 

To prepare a written submission to the tribunal head up blank sheets of A4/word docs with each descriptor you and your husband believe he meets, then write paragraphs to explain why, with reference to your extra supportive evidence. :honeybee13:'s template was written to rebutt an ESA85 (usually more detailed than an 85A) but it's still got useful suggestions for how to word a submission.

 

Sincerely, Margaret. :panda:

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