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    • further polished WS using above suggestions and also included couple of more modifications highlighted in orange are those ok to include?   Background   1.1  The Defendant received the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) on the 06th of January 2020 following the vehicle being parked at Arla Old Dairy, South Ruislip on the 05th of December 2019.   Unfair PCN   2.1  On 19th December 2023 the Defendant sent the Claimant's solicitors a CPR request.  As shown in Exhibit 1 (pages 7-13) sent by the solicitors the signage displayed in their evidence clearly shows a £60.00 parking charge notice (which will be reduced to £30 if paid within 14 days of issue).  2.2  Yet the PCN sent by the Claimant is for a £100.00 parking charge notice (reduced to £60 if paid within 30 days of issue).   2.3        The Claimant relies on signage to create a contract.  It is unlawful for the Claimant to write that the charge is £60 on their signs and then send demands for £100.    2.4        The unlawful £100 charge is also the basis for the Claimant's Particulars of Claim.  No Locus Standi  3.1  I do not believe a contract with the landowner, that is provided following the defendant’s CPR request, gives MET Parking Services a right to bring claims in their own name. Definition of “Relevant contract” from the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4,  2 [1] means a contract Including a contract arising only when the vehicle was parked on the relevant land between the driver and a person who is-   (a) the owner or occupier of the land; or   (b) Authorised, under or by virtue of arrangements made by the owner or occupier of the land, to enter into a contract with the driver requiring the payment of parking charges in respect of the parking of the vehicle on the land. According to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/section/44   For a contract to be valid, it requires a director from each company to sign and then two independent witnesses must confirm those signatures.   3.2  The Defendant requested to see such a contract in the CPR request.  The fact that no contract has been produced with the witness signatures present means the contract has not been validly executed. Therefore, there can be no contract established between MET Parking Services and the motorist. Even if “Parking in Electric Bay” could form a contract (which it cannot), it is immaterial. There is no valid contract.  Illegal Conduct – No Contract Formed   4.1 At the time of writing, the Claimant has failed to provide the following, in response to the CPR request from myself.   4.2        The legal contract between the Claimant and the landowner (which in this case is Standard Life Investments UK) to provide evidence that there is an agreement in place with landowner with the necessary authority to issue parking charge notices and to pursue payment by means of litigation.   4.3 Proof of planning permission granted for signage etc under the Town and country Planning Act 1990. Lack of planning permission is a criminal offence under this Act and no contract can be formed where criminality is involved.   4.4        I also do not believe the claimant possesses these documents.   No Keeper Liability   5.1        The defendant was not the driver at the time and date mentioned in the PCN and the claimant has not established keeper liability under schedule 4 of the PoFA 2012. In this matter, the defendant puts it to the claimant to produce strict proof as to who was driving at the time.   5.2 The claimant in their Notice To Keeper also failed to comply with PoFA 2012 Schedule 4 section 9[2][f] while mentioning “the right to recover from the keeper so much of that parking charge as remains unpaid” where they did not include statement “(if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met)”.     5.3         The claimant did not mention parking period, times on the photographs are separate from the PCN and in any case are that arrival and departure times not the parking period since their times include driving to and from the parking space as a minimum and can include extra time to allow pedestrians and other vehicles to pass in front.    Protection of Freedoms Act 2012   The notice must -   (a) specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;  22. In the persuasive judgement K4GF167G - Premier Park Ltd v Mr Mathur - Horsham County Court – 5 January 2024 it was on this very point that the judge dismissed this claim.  5.4  A the PCN does not comply with the Act the Defendant as keeper is not liable.  No Breach of Contract   6.1       No breach of contract occurred because the PCN and contract provided as part of the defendant’s CPR request shows different post code, PCN shows HA4 0EY while contract shows HA4 0FY. According to PCN defendant parked on HA4 0EY which does not appear to be subject to the postcode covered by the contract.  6.2         The entrance sign does not mention anything about there being other terms inside the car park so does not offer a contract which makes it only an offer to treat,  Interest  7.1  It is unreasonable for the Claimant to delay litigation for  Double Recovery   7.2  The claim is littered with made-up charges.  7.3  As noted above, the Claimant's signs state a £60 charge yet their PCN is for £100.  7.4  As well as the £100 parking charge, the Claimant seeks recovery of an additional £70.  This is simply a poor attempt to circumvent the legal costs cap at small claims.  7.5 Since 2019, many County Courts have considered claims in excess of £100 to be an abuse of process leading to them being struck out ab initio. An example, in the Caernarfon Court in VCS v Davies, case No. FTQZ4W28 on 4th September 2019, District Judge Jones-Evans stated “Upon it being recorded that District Judge Jones- Evans has over a very significant period of time warned advocates (...) in many cases of this nature before this court that their claim for £60 is unenforceable in law and is an abuse of process and is nothing more than a poor attempt to go behind the decision of the Supreme Court v Beavis which inter alia decided that a figure of £160 as a global sum claimed in this case would be a penalty and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss and therefore unenforceable in law and if the practice continued, he would treat all cases as a claim for £160 and therefore a penalty and unenforceable in law it is hereby declared (…) the claim is struck out and declared to be wholly without merit and an abuse of process.”  7.6 In Claim Nos. F0DP806M and F0DP201T, District Judge Taylor echoed earlier General Judgment or Orders of District Judge Grand, stating ''It is ordered that the claim is struck out as an abuse of process. The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the Defendant contracted to pay. This additional charge is not recoverabl15e under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4 nor with reference to the judgment in Parking Eye v Beavis. It is an abuse of process from the Claimant to issue a knowingly inflated claim for an additional sum which it is not entitled to recover. This order has been made by the court of its own initiative without a hearing pursuant to CPR Rule 3.3(4)) of the Civil Procedure Rules 1998...''  7.7 In the persuasive case of G4QZ465V - Excel Parking Services Ltd v Wilkinson – Bradford County Court -2 July 2020 (Exhibit 4) the judge had decided that Excel had won. However, due to Excel adding on the £60 the Judge dismissed the case.  7.8        The addition of costs not previously specified on signage are also in breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015, Schedule 2, specifically paras 6, 10 and 14.   7.9        It is the Defendant’s position that the Claimant in this case has knowingly submitted inflated costs and thus the entire claim should be similarly struck out in accordance with Civil Procedure Rule 3.3(4).   In Conclusion   8.1        I invite the court to dismiss the claim.  Statement of Truth  I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.   
    • Well the difference is that in all our other cases It was Kev who was trying to entrap the motorist so sticking two fingers up to him and daring him to try court was from a position of strength. In your case, sorry, you made a mistake so you're not in the position of strength.  I've looked on Google Maps and the signs are few & far between as per Kev's MO, but there is an entrance sign saying "Pay & Display" (and you've admitted in writing that you knew you had to pay) and the signs by the payment machines do say "Sea View Car Park" (and you've admitted in writing you paid the wrong car park ... and maybe outed yourself as the driver). Something I missed in my previous post is that the LoC is only for one ticket, not two. Sorry, but it's impossible to definitively advise what to so. Personally I'd probably gamble on Kev being a serial bottler of court and reply with a snotty letter ridiculing the signage (given you mentioned the signage in your appeal) - but it is a gamble.  
    • No! What has happened is that your pix were up-to-date: 5 hours' maximum stay and £100 PCN. The lazy solicitors have sent ancient pictures: 4 hours' maximum stay and £60 PCN. Don't let on!  Let them be hoisted by their own lazy petard in the court hearing (if they don't bottle before).
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But did you set the statement out as shown in the examples in the guide I gave you the link to ???

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Hi, yes your papers will be put in front of the judge before the hearing. Also, the court will send a copy of your defence to NRAM so they will see it before the hearing too - might make them change their mind and cancel the eviction.

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I hope so I am sure I can deal with the stress, I broke down in the court today lodging the papers. I'm glad I have my kids to keep me strong, I know that things should go OK but I just feel so anxious about it all. If the judge decides to let them have the house we have nowhere to go and all my money went on paying them today, so no deposit for a rental. Feel so depressed about it all, it just seems we are at their mercy and they do not seem to care one jot. Thanks to all on this site for your support it means a huge amount xx

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I got a date today, but cleared the lot, and tore them off a strip. Its a dire way of dealing with people. Just keep your head up, some my friends lost their houses to nram, but as they let go.....so did their troubles! they found nicer places to rent and had council help too. Don't do it for prides sake, just find a nice place with a view :)

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Hi can anyone let me know the "top bloke" to contact with regards to making a complaint or asking for help.

I have bee writing to NW at various addresses both in Telford and Rotherham all letters are accepted but never replied to.

 

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Thanks Tuttle. I am sure it will all come good in the end. It can't stay this way forever. x

 

Hi, if you have no equity and the debts are big, just go bankrupt, i means that you will only pay a percent in the pound and most get written off in 18mths, you can keep lots of things too, even if you have a shiney car. :) Just stop the stress and build a new future.

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You have a very good point there!!! It is worth considering for sure!! I would never get another mortgage anyway unless I win the Euro tonight!! I live in hope!!

 

a mortgage, is to live in hope that it will paid for by the time you retire or there abouts, or sell to release equity, but in all the years and the ups and downs there is no guarantee. The worst thing about owning your home at old age, is that the nursing homes nick it, to pay the fees to keep you - is it all worth it? surely there is more to life than this treadmill of stress and old age....

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Tuttle, I know it is a big ask as you are exhausted, but do complain to the Ombudsman about this if you get a chance, and tell your MP. The only way to stop bullying **** like Northern Rock and their 'solicitor' henchmen is to make sure people in authority know what is going on. As taxpayers we own NR and I don't agree with you losing your house and nor I am sure would 99.99% of other taxpayers. These banks need taking down a peg or two!

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Tuttle, I know it is a big ask as you are exhausted, but do complain to the Ombudsman about this if you get a chance, and tell your MP. The only way to stop bullying **** like Northern Rock and their 'solicitor' henchmen is to make sure people in authority know what is going on. As taxpayers we own NR and I don't agree with you losing your house and nor I am sure would 99.99% of other taxpayers. These banks need taking down a peg or two!

 

I have complained, flat out, to trading standards, the fos, fsa and my local MP - its more geared to the DWP SMI thing, plus the fact that they are chasing equity to reduce the national deficit.

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Hi All just to let you know I have a court date for 09.45 Wednesday morning. I just pray that the judge will see these people for what they are. Bullies.

 

stay calm for the judge, try and think how best to keep everything in place, I have read quite a bit over the last few days about the government and stats, so I think all will be ok for you. May the force be with you :)

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Many thanks Tuttle, where did you read this info I would like to take a look it might ease my anxiety if nothing else. Just about to print off my mortgage statement showing the last payment with the shortfall. After all what can't speak cannot lie!!

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Well, I am having an early night (if I can sleep I didn't last night at all) to prepare for my morning in court. I will post on how I get on here later. Fingers crossed it all goes well. Thanks for all the advice and support I couldn't have got this far without you all. Dx

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Had a fantastic result today better than I could ever have hoped for. NRAM's own solicitor after reading the paperwork assumed we were there for a review hearing and could not defend them in any way. The District Judge did not even suspend the warrant again he cancelled it (or in his words 'killed it'). He has recommended that they pay all costs as action was unnecessary and if they don't then go the the FSA. He cannot believe that a company owned by the tax payer can be acting in such a dreadful way. He said that he cannot comprehend their actions and that if he worked for them it would make him ill and he has no wish to try to understand them. So in a nutshell they went into court thinking they had it all and left with less than nothing. Thanks to all on this site for their help and support. Power to the people!!!!

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Wonderful, the judge seemed to use their common sense.

 

I think now you need to ask for a typed transcript of the case and use that as part of your complaint to the FSA.

 

This company are a complete disgrace and seem to be decending to even lower depths in order to try to balance their books (fictional ones at that!).

 

Bet you are feeling very very relieved.

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Oh I am. At least I will be able to sleep now. I know that they had a very weak case (at best) but it is still the whole rigmarole of court and taking time off work. How do I get a transcript of the proceedings? Request from the court? Their own solicitor said he could not possibly defend their actions and he was quite frankly embarassed. He in fact spoke on my behalf and defended me, he said not to tell anyone but he was speechless.

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Well done Deb :) great result !

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Thank you Ell-enn I would not have had the strength nor the courage to go through this again if not for you wonderful people on here. I still can't believe that they no longer have a warrant for possession either suspended or otherwise!! Huge relief! Well that's one District Judge who knows them for what they are!!!

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Many congratulations Deb - a thoroughly deserved victory over the monsters that are NRAM!!As has been said before, their continued use of the legal system to further their own ends is a disgrace. I am resigned to having to fight the eviction order in court myself and can only hope that I get a judge with as much common sense as you did!!

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I am sure you will. When are you due in court? I wish you the very best from the bottom of my heart. The relief I feel is immense. I am sure that all Judge's get together at dinners and discuss cases and NRAM must flag up a lot. They and their employees (or should they be called civil servants as they are owned by us mere tax payers) should be given set guidelines in how to address such matters. They even had the cheek to request that their solicitor ask for wageslips (that they say they didn't receive), I told them no chance. They still seem to think they need them to make the arrangement. Can they really be that stupid that they think they call the shots still?? Unbelievable!!!

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