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    • The only way to verify whether there is any financial reward for the management is seeing the agreement. That would be required during disclosure IF court proceedings went ahead... Unless you could bring pressure to bear and get a copy?
    • god they've got at you haven't they. told you all the usual utter BS. a CCJ vanishes from your credit file on it's 6th B'Day regardless to being paid off or not or paying or not. same with any debt with a registered defaulted date - it vanishes from your file on the DN's 6th B'day regardless. creditfix are Knightsbridge, (they renamed) there are 100's of threads here on Knightsbridge, if i remember rightly 2 of the directors of a certain very big IVA provider were struck off for embezzling £1m's out of debtors. pers i'd stop paying now.  end of . just ignore them all. 99% of your debts are to utterly powerless DCA's and probably were never owed in the first place only goes to firm up my belief from post one..you got had blind. its very easy to deal with the debts even those with CCJ's. can you copy and paste what you credit file says regarding the IVA please?   
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    • Sorry I meant credit fix - I really wish I'd known this before - kicking myself right now  If they come back to me asking for more money I'll cancel it and start trying to deal with the debt myself let's see what they say  Feeling tempted to cancel it now but scared that some of the debts will do more CCJ's on me and I'll have to wait 6 years again.  2 of the CCJ come of this year and then I'll only have the iva in credit file - effectively if I'd have not took out the iva in 2021 I'd have clear score by now - but then again would I because I would have been hounded the last 3 years, as bad as it is it's saves me lots of headaches whilst my debt was still within the 6 year mark.  I think most of them are near there but in all honesty no point chasing them if I do cancel iva I'd jjst wait for the ones who contact me and then start the relevant letter process on them.  Of over 6 years easy if not still possible to write off. My true victory would be having the iva wiped off my credit file as mis sold or something that way I Don't have to wait till 2027 Other option is to fight back and ask for them to offer the creditors to accept payments so far and use the following method    Will your IVA firm agree to complete your IVA on the basic of funds paid to date? The Guidance lists a lot of factors to be considered in deciding whether a settlement on the basis of funds paid to date should be proposed. You should read the list. But that may not give you any feel for whether they apply to you or not. The following are my thoughts on when an IVA should be treated as settled, not failed. They assume that you have £75 or less to pay a month: if you would currently qualify for a Debt Relief Order, then your IVA should be settled now  There is no point in making your IVA fail and you have to apply for a DRO – it will not generate another penny for your creditors. If you are renting and owe less than £50,000, check the DRO criteria now and talk to National Debtline on 0808 808 4000 about whether you qualify. You may have been told at the start of your IVA that you aren’t eligible – still check now as the DRO criteria have changed, your situation has got worse, and some people were given incorrect information about DROs at the start. if you have no assets that would be realised in bankruptcy (eg a house with equity, car worth over £2000), then your IVA should be settled now Same as (1), there is no point in making you apply for bankruptcy after your IVA fails. if your only asset is a car that is worth less than £8000, then your IVA should be settled now A car that is worth say £5000 would normally be sold in bankruptcy and you would be given a small amount to buy a cheaper car. But your creditors would not get any benefit from this as the Insolvency Service takes the first £8000 raised to cover its own costs. if you have significant assets, the closer you are to the end of the IVA, the less reasonable it is to fail it If you have been paying your IVA for 4 years, you have done your best over a long period. It isn’t your fault you can no longer continue. The fact you may have had equity to release isn’t relevant as that simply isn’t going to be possible. if your situation will clearly improve soon, then it’s unlikely your IVA will be settled I mean real improvements, not hoping that prices fall. If I can get them to accept payment to date or threaten with cancellation hopefully they may accept it -  Other option is to try and borrow money and pay make a full and final offer  Or I can just ignore and hope for the best which I'm very tempted to do especially if they respond to my review with bullying tactics despite me being skint as a fart with no mortgage as renting  It's so stressful but I've just checked the iva agreement from 2021 and it's Cabot 2 accounts Lowell about 5 accounts and then lots of repeats of the same debt with for example zopa and Cabot same amount listed twice -  also loyyds banks but I'm sure that's older than 6 years and not on credit file anyway  If I can somehow remove the iva from my credit file I'd be happy 
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£1500 debt to Cahoot / Clarity - Make us an offer!!!


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Hi I am a little uneasy as I have a letter from Clarity arrived today regarding a £1500 debt to Cahoot

in which it states

"As time is running out our client has advised us that they will consider any offer, however small, to settle the balance"

 

I can't help but feel that this is a letter designed to catch me out and what will happen if I offer £50...

 

.it does say "however small". Has anyone experienced this type of letter?

 

Thank you

 

Deb

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I think the big boys on the site will want to know more about the debt. Such as are Clarity just acting as a DCA for Cahoot. Do you indeed owe Cahoot this money. When is the debt from and are you paying anybody anything at the moment? No doubt others will be along soon but they will what to know more about the debt.

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Time running out? For what?

 

Ignore it. Any offers of a discount = debt is bad.

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Firstly, do you know anything about/acknowledge the said debt?

If so, what was it for?

What's showing on your credit file?

has a default been registered?

Have you had a "Notice Of Assignment"?

Is it likely to be Statute Barred?

Have you made a CCA request or a SAR?

Have you been paying them?

 

Huge offers of discounts are usually an indicator of an unenforceable claim as has been advised.

 

If they try contacting you again, make sure you stay off the phone.

 

With more information, people will be better able to help.

 

H. x

 

 

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Many thanks, yes I do owe the money and this debt was originally being chased by Cabot but I have just not been able to make repayments. Prior to that I was paying it off via a payment plan with moorcroft but after several hospital stays fell really behind and got snowed under with all my bills.

 

I think I did have a letter telling me Clarity would now be taking over the debt but I'm unsure. It's not statute barred, It is showing as a default but basically I do owe them the money and would like to pay it off but am worried as to what will happen if I do make an offer and what should my lowest offer be. I can;t afford much as am really struggling but if I make them a low offer I am dubious as to whether they will say no and now that you have admitted it you must pay the lot and we're taking you to court!

 

Many thanks

 

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Hi Deb.

 

Right, thanks for the info.

So, as you admit that you are liable for the debt, and quite rightly (and honestly) say that you'd like to pay it off, you now need to know exactly how much you owe.

Firstly, have a look at correspondence. Have Clarity said that they "own" or have bought the debt?

 

If so, they are the people you need to deal with . Is the debt for a credit card or loan? In which case, you may be owed mis-sold PPI on it.

The best way to find out is via a SAR, if appropriate, or a carefully worded letter to the original creditor, asking them to let you know if PPI was taken out on the original debt. It can sometimes save you the £10 fee if the OC is amicable, if they no longer "own" the debt. Any mis-sold PPI could honestly and legitimately wipe the debt anyway.

 

As you're being offered what seems like a huge reduction in the amount owing, then, as advised above, there could be something wrong/unenforceable about the original agreement - when was it taken out?

This line of enquiry is, of course, up to your own moral outlook, but if they can't supply an original CCA if the case dates from before April 2007, then it may turn out that you need make no offers of payment whatsoever.

 

Hold off for the moment - the matter of Full and Final settlements is always awkward. The general view is that an offer of around 20% is the norm, although with VERY strict stipulations on your part. Again, a little more info would be helpful.

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You could give more info on the debt, but as its obvious the debt is bad hence the discount offers, i would advise ignoring it. If you really want to play around with the muppets, just send a CCA request or even better, a "prove it" letter. Do NOT acknowledge the debt with them or contact them by phone.

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Many thanks for your replies guys, much appreciated....

 

Iam sure the amount they have said is the amount I owe as I occasionally get statements sent from Santander (they took over Cahoot) also in the letters they say Santander are their client so it appears that they are acting on their behalf and they say "our client has advised they will consider any offer, no matter how small" Because I want to get rid of this I was wondering should I just offer £200-£300 as they do say any amount, no matter how small The debt was a flexible loan with Cahoot many years ago but I did make payments off the balance to moorcroft up until about a year ago so I have acknowledged the debt! I also don;t think I paid PPI on this but should I write to Santander anyway and if I do should I ask Clarity to allow me time to do this? Cabot wasn't involved, that was an error by me...sorry If I do write offering a figure for settlement please could you help me word it so I am not dropping myself into hot water.

 

Really appreciate your time and help

 

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In light of all the new information and agreeing with what Renegadeimp says, I'd be inclined to send a CCA direct to Santander. Accompany it with the statutory £1 fee by postal order.

Keep a copy of your letter and note the postal order number (keep the receipt).

Send via Post Office recorded delivery and see what they return.

They have 12 + 2 working days to respond.

That shouldn't affect any of their offers of reduced payment as Full & final, but will give you time to think AND give you evidence whether or not they do have the documents they need to proceed.

 

I respect what Renegadeimp says, but in this case, because of what you've said, a "Prove It" letter might seem a little churlish maybe? A simple CCA request would be appropriate, I think.

Happy to be contradicted if anyone has a better course of action.

 

Let us know how you get on anyway and we'll take it from there.

 

Do sleep well and don't worry. ;)

 

H. x

 

 

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CCA goes to the company chasing you. SAR goes to the OC. If the DCA cant come up with the CCA, then thats 2 birds with one stone.

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Hi debpayne

 

Thought you might like to know that I too received one of these letters from clarty.... AFTER cbot served me with a Statutory Demand, sounds like your letter is exactly the same as mine.

 

I have a court hearing this week, and am using this letter as part of supplementary witness statement.

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