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Clause 9.  Effect of Us Terminating Agreement 9.1 If this Agreement terminates under clause 8 the following will apply 9.1.1 Subject to the rights given to you by law, you will no longer be entitled to possession of the goods and must return them to us to an address as we may reasonably specify, (removing or commencing the removal of any cherished plates) together with a V5 registration certificate, both sets of keys and a service record book. If you are unable or unwilling to return the goods to us then we shall collect the goods and we'll charge you in accordance with clause 10.3 9.1.2 We will be entitled to immediate payment from you for all payments and all other sums do under this agreement at the date of termination 9.1.3 We will sell the goods or public sale at the earliest opportunity once the goods are in a reasonable condition which includes a return of the items listed in clause 7.1.4 9.1.4 We will be entitled to immediate payment from you of the rest of the Total Amount Payable under this agreement less: ( a) A rebate for early settlement ias required by law which will be calculated and notified to you at the time of payment (b) The proceeds of sale of the goods (if any) after deduction of all costs associated with finding you and/or the goods, recovery, refurbishment and repair. Insurance, storage, sale, agents fees, cherished plate removal, replacement keys, costs associated with obtaining service history for the goods and in relation to obtaining a duplicate V5 registration certificate 4, The following are particulars required by Civil Procedure Rules. Rule 7.9 as set out in 7.1 and 7.2 of the associated Practice Direction entitled Hire Purchase Claims:- a)     The agreement is dated 25 August 2022. And is between Moneybarn No1 Limited  and xxxxxxxxx under agreement  number xxxxxx. b)    The claimant was one of the original parties to the agreement. c)    The agreement is regulated under the Consumer Credit Act 1974. d)    The goods claimed Ford Ranger 3.2 TDCi ( 200 PS) 4x4 Wildtrack Double Cab Pickup 3200 cc (Sep2015} Registration No ^^^^^^^ Chassis number ***************** e)     The total price of the goods £19570 f)     The paid up sum £1206 5 g)    The unpaid balance of the total price £7505 (to include charges) h)    A default notice was sent to the defendant on 20th February 2024 by First class post i)      The date when the right to demand delivery of the goods accrued 14 March 2024 j)      The amount if any claimed as an alternative to delivery of the goods 7505 22 include charges 5.  At the date of service of the notice the instalments were £562.89 in arrears. 6. By reason of the Termination of the Agreement by the notice, defendant became liable to pay the sum of £7502 7. The date of maturity the agreement is 24th August 2027. 8. Further or alternative by reasons of  the Defendant breaches of the agreement by failing to pay the said instalments, the Defendant evinced an intention no longer to be bound by the Agreement and repudiated it by the said Notice the claimant accepted that repudiation 9. By reason of such repudiation the claimant has suffered loss and damage. Total amount payable £19570 Less sum paid or in arrears by the date of repudiation £12064 97 Balance £7505 (to include charges.) ( The claimant will give credit if necessary for the value of the vehicle if recovered.)  The claimant therefore claims 1.    An order for delivery up of the vehicle 2.    The MoneyClaim to be adjourned generally with liberty to restore,  Upon restoration of the MoneyClaim following return or loss of the vehicle. the Claimant will ensure the pre action protocol for debt claims is followed. 3.    Pursuant to s 90 (1)  of the Consumer Credit Act 1974. An order that the Claimant and/or its agents may enter any premises in which the vehicle is situated in order to recover the vehicle should it not be returned by the Defendant 4.    further or alternatively damages 5.    costs Statement of truth The Claimant believes that the facts stated in these Particulars of Claim are true. The Claimant understands that the proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes or causes to be made a false statement in the document for verified by statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth. I am duly Authorised by the Claimant to sign these Particulars of Claim signed Dated 17th of April 2024  What is the total value of the claim? 7502   Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? No   Never heard of this   Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No   Did you inform the claimant of your change of address? n/a Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? No   When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? After  Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? In a garage  Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes  Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. Original Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? n/a   Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? They said sent but nor received   Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? None seen   Why did you cease payments? Still Paying,   What was the date of your last payment? Yesterday  31st May 2024   Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No   Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? Yes on 12 Feb 2024   What you need to do now.   Can't scan, will do via another means as you cant have jpg  
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Please could you advise me and help me through this problem with Robinson Way Limited?

 

I have just received a letter named and addressed to me,

saying that they are chasing a debt owed to 'equidebt - ex nationwide. It is for quite a lot of money.

 

The fact is I have never heard of this debt, nor have i ever taken out or bought anything from Nationwide or equidebt for this amount.

 

No default even shows up on my credit report or history, as i have just bought a new house (we've only lived here 12 months)

and my credit history was very good, throughout the house buying process, with no debtsoutstanding.

 

They are threatening to advise their client to take me to court.

 

I have never heard of any of these people.

 

After looking at the support and advice of others in this group, I have sent the template letter to them,

stating that i know nothing about the debt owed and to send me written evidence.

 

Is that ok to start with or do i need to do anything else?

 

Who are these people and who are equidebt?

 

Will they be able to black list my property and involve my wife?

 

Will this damage hers or my credit history, even though i have now sent them a letter disputing their claim?

 

I would really appreciate any words of advice or wisdom.

 

Thank you

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Please could you advise me and help me through this problem with Robinson Way Limited? I have just received a letter named and addressed to me, saying that they are chasing a debt owed to 'equidebt - ex nationwide. It is for quite a lot of money.

 

The fact is I have never heard of this debt, nor have i ever taken out or bought anything from Nationwide or equidebt for this amount. No default even shows up on my credit report or history, as i have just bought a new house (we've only lived here 12 months) and my credit history was very good, throughout the house buying process, with no debtsoutstanding.

 

They are threatening to advise their client to take me to court. I have never heard of any of these people. After looking at the support and advice of others in this group, I have sent the template letter to them, stating that i know nothing about the debt owed and to send me written evidence.

 

Is that ok to start with or do i need to do anything else? Who are these people and who are equidebt? Will they be able to black list my property and involve my wife? Will this damage hers or my credit history, even though i have now sent them a letter disputing their claim?

 

I would really appreciate any words of advice or wisdom.

 

Thank you

Hi welcome to CAG,

 

I suggest that you write to the Compliance Manager at RW send this by recorded delivery.

 

ref: as on their letter.

 

 

Dear Sir or Madam,

 

I refer to your letter dated xx xx xxxx in which you allege that I owe a debt for £xxxxxx to Equidebt for an account with Natationwide, please take note I do not acknowledge any debt to Robinson Way, Equidebt or Nationwide,.

 

I have not been contacted by any of the parties you mention in your letter at any time.

 

Having checked my personal credit history I have concluded that any such alleged debt is now statute barred therefore I will not now or at any time in the future make any payment or offer of payment in regard to the allged debt.

 

Please note I am fully aware of the OFT Guidance on Debt Collection 2003/2011 and the sections regarding the pursuit of statute barred debt.

 

You will now cease to process and store all data relating to me with immdeiate effect.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

RD this and see what crawls out of the woodwork.

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I did have a Nationwide account, but I stopped using it ten or twelve years ago, when I moved house. I'm not sure I closed it officially, but it hasn't been used for at least 10 years and it was empty when I left, transferring all of the Direct debits etc. I don't have any of the paperwork now. Would have thrown it out after about 6 years!?

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1. Is that ok to start with or do i need to do anything else?

2. Who are these people and who are equidebt?

3. Will they be able to black list my property and involve my wife?

4. Will this damage hers or my credit history, even though i have now sent them a letter disputing their claim?

 

I would really appreciate any words of advice or wisdom.

 

Thank you

Hold the horses here a bit. Let's take this one step at a time.

 

1. Your response was exactly the right one, as stated by Havinastella. They should cease all collection activity while they process your request. If they do not, raise an official complaint with them.

2. They are a debt collection agency. DCA. Main stream creditors do not like to get their hands dirty with defaulted debts. So they pass these debts on to DCAs, either using them as an agent or selling the debts via assignment. A DCA acting as an agent has no legal powers at all.

3. This is a way off yet. But, if the debt is yours (it isn't) then they can legally report the status of the debt to your credit file. There is no such thing as blacklisting. However, if (and only if) your wife has a joint account with you she might find it harder to get credit.

4. As above. If they falsely mark your credit file with a default, this can be removed.

 

You should check your credit file from time to time. DCAs can be cavalier about registering defaults so you should check to make sure they haven't.

 

Noddle is based on the smaller of the three agencies (Callcredit) but you get online access for free and for life (the other 2 cost £15 a month after the first month).

Noddle

ICO - credit reference agencies

You can get paper copies for £2 each, per agency.

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It is quite simple if this account was closed 12 years ago and no payment or acknoeledgment in writting has been made in that time the debt became statute barred after 6 years anyway so they cannot damage any thing now.

 

RW have been taking on a large amount of old debt, but of course they are not made aware of just how old the debt is or it's status in regard to the Limitation Act 1980.

 

I'll amend the letter for you to send.

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Your fine with your wifes account it would only affect both if it was a joint account.

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plus its a DCA chasing a debt for a DCA no the OC mationwide

 

where in all the concorted rights of assignment that sits as to even IF

any DCA can do anything to you is very debateable

 

sounds like they are just phishing to see if they can find a mug who knows no better to spoof into paying.

 

either that or its a case of fraud.

 

if you did default on the account, its long dropped off your cra file [the defaults 6th birthday]

 

you'll prob find Robbersway have no paperwork at all [DCADCA they never do]

and when they do get it

it'll be just bank statements [as there is no CCA on bank accounts]

 

they either see its so old and drop it like a hot stone

or

they'll magic up some phatom payment in 2007 to claim its not SB'd

 

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Hi, returned with news...Robinson way sent a letter back, saying they were letting go of my so called 'case' and passing it on (or back.) That was in October.

 

Now I've just had a letter from Mackenzie Hall for the same amount!

 

Never heard from them before.

 

I'm sending them the letter I sent Robinson Way.

 

Really annoying.

 

When will this all go away?!

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Yes same letter but add that RW has ''given up'' on the account very recently.

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IMHO its time to stop the letter tennis

 

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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