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    • further polished WS using above suggestions and also included couple of more modifications highlighted in orange are those ok to include?   Background   1.1  The Defendant received the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) on the 06th of January 2020 following the vehicle being parked at Arla Old Dairy, South Ruislip on the 05th of December 2019.   Unfair PCN   2.1  On 19th December 2023 the Defendant sent the Claimant's solicitors a CPR request.  As shown in Exhibit 1 (pages 7-13) sent by the solicitors the signage displayed in their evidence clearly shows a £60.00 parking charge notice (which will be reduced to £30 if paid within 14 days of issue).  2.2  Yet the PCN sent by the Claimant is for a £100.00 parking charge notice (reduced to £60 if paid within 30 days of issue).   2.3        The Claimant relies on signage to create a contract.  It is unlawful for the Claimant to write that the charge is £60 on their signs and then send demands for £100.    2.4        The unlawful £100 charge is also the basis for the Claimant's Particulars of Claim.  No Locus Standi  3.1  I do not believe a contract with the landowner, that is provided following the defendant’s CPR request, gives MET Parking Services a right to bring claims in their own name. Definition of “Relevant contract” from the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4,  2 [1] means a contract Including a contract arising only when the vehicle was parked on the relevant land between the driver and a person who is-   (a) the owner or occupier of the land; or   (b) Authorised, under or by virtue of arrangements made by the owner or occupier of the land, to enter into a contract with the driver requiring the payment of parking charges in respect of the parking of the vehicle on the land. According to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/section/44   For a contract to be valid, it requires a director from each company to sign and then two independent witnesses must confirm those signatures.   3.2  The Defendant requested to see such a contract in the CPR request.  The fact that no contract has been produced with the witness signatures present means the contract has not been validly executed. Therefore, there can be no contract established between MET Parking Services and the motorist. Even if “Parking in Electric Bay” could form a contract (which it cannot), it is immaterial. There is no valid contract.  Illegal Conduct – No Contract Formed   4.1 At the time of writing, the Claimant has failed to provide the following, in response to the CPR request from myself.   4.2        The legal contract between the Claimant and the landowner (which in this case is Standard Life Investments UK) to provide evidence that there is an agreement in place with landowner with the necessary authority to issue parking charge notices and to pursue payment by means of litigation.   4.3 Proof of planning permission granted for signage etc under the Town and country Planning Act 1990. Lack of planning permission is a criminal offence under this Act and no contract can be formed where criminality is involved.   4.4        I also do not believe the claimant possesses these documents.   No Keeper Liability   5.1        The defendant was not the driver at the time and date mentioned in the PCN and the claimant has not established keeper liability under schedule 4 of the PoFA 2012. In this matter, the defendant puts it to the claimant to produce strict proof as to who was driving at the time.   5.2 The claimant in their Notice To Keeper also failed to comply with PoFA 2012 Schedule 4 section 9[2][f] while mentioning “the right to recover from the keeper so much of that parking charge as remains unpaid” where they did not include statement “(if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met)”.     5.3         The claimant did not mention parking period, times on the photographs are separate from the PCN and in any case are that arrival and departure times not the parking period since their times include driving to and from the parking space as a minimum and can include extra time to allow pedestrians and other vehicles to pass in front.    Protection of Freedoms Act 2012   The notice must -   (a) specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;  22. In the persuasive judgement K4GF167G - Premier Park Ltd v Mr Mathur - Horsham County Court – 5 January 2024 it was on this very point that the judge dismissed this claim.  5.4  A the PCN does not comply with the Act the Defendant as keeper is not liable.  No Breach of Contract   6.1       No breach of contract occurred because the PCN and contract provided as part of the defendant’s CPR request shows different post code, PCN shows HA4 0EY while contract shows HA4 0FY. According to PCN defendant parked on HA4 0EY which does not appear to be subject to the postcode covered by the contract.  6.2         The entrance sign does not mention anything about there being other terms inside the car park so does not offer a contract which makes it only an offer to treat,  Interest  7.1  It is unreasonable for the Claimant to delay litigation for  Double Recovery   7.2  The claim is littered with made-up charges.  7.3  As noted above, the Claimant's signs state a £60 charge yet their PCN is for £100.  7.4  As well as the £100 parking charge, the Claimant seeks recovery of an additional £70.  This is simply a poor attempt to circumvent the legal costs cap at small claims.  7.5 Since 2019, many County Courts have considered claims in excess of £100 to be an abuse of process leading to them being struck out ab initio. An example, in the Caernarfon Court in VCS v Davies, case No. FTQZ4W28 on 4th September 2019, District Judge Jones-Evans stated “Upon it being recorded that District Judge Jones- Evans has over a very significant period of time warned advocates (...) in many cases of this nature before this court that their claim for £60 is unenforceable in law and is an abuse of process and is nothing more than a poor attempt to go behind the decision of the Supreme Court v Beavis which inter alia decided that a figure of £160 as a global sum claimed in this case would be a penalty and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss and therefore unenforceable in law and if the practice continued, he would treat all cases as a claim for £160 and therefore a penalty and unenforceable in law it is hereby declared (…) the claim is struck out and declared to be wholly without merit and an abuse of process.”  7.6 In Claim Nos. F0DP806M and F0DP201T, District Judge Taylor echoed earlier General Judgment or Orders of District Judge Grand, stating ''It is ordered that the claim is struck out as an abuse of process. The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the Defendant contracted to pay. This additional charge is not recoverabl15e under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4 nor with reference to the judgment in Parking Eye v Beavis. It is an abuse of process from the Claimant to issue a knowingly inflated claim for an additional sum which it is not entitled to recover. This order has been made by the court of its own initiative without a hearing pursuant to CPR Rule 3.3(4)) of the Civil Procedure Rules 1998...''  7.7 In the persuasive case of G4QZ465V - Excel Parking Services Ltd v Wilkinson – Bradford County Court -2 July 2020 (Exhibit 4) the judge had decided that Excel had won. However, due to Excel adding on the £60 the Judge dismissed the case.  7.8        The addition of costs not previously specified on signage are also in breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015, Schedule 2, specifically paras 6, 10 and 14.   7.9        It is the Defendant’s position that the Claimant in this case has knowingly submitted inflated costs and thus the entire claim should be similarly struck out in accordance with Civil Procedure Rule 3.3(4).   In Conclusion   8.1        I invite the court to dismiss the claim.  Statement of Truth  I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.   
    • Well the difference is that in all our other cases It was Kev who was trying to entrap the motorist so sticking two fingers up to him and daring him to try court was from a position of strength. In your case, sorry, you made a mistake so you're not in the position of strength.  I've looked on Google Maps and the signs are few & far between as per Kev's MO, but there is an entrance sign saying "Pay & Display" (and you've admitted in writing that you knew you had to pay) and the signs by the payment machines do say "Sea View Car Park" (and you've admitted in writing you paid the wrong car park ... and maybe outed yourself as the driver). Something I missed in my previous post is that the LoC is only for one ticket, not two. Sorry, but it's impossible to definitively advise what to so. Personally I'd probably gamble on Kev being a serial bottler of court and reply with a snotty letter ridiculing the signage (given you mentioned the signage in your appeal) - but it is a gamble.  
    • No! What has happened is that your pix were up-to-date: 5 hours' maximum stay and £100 PCN. The lazy solicitors have sent ancient pictures: 4 hours' maximum stay and £60 PCN. Don't let on!  Let them be hoisted by their own lazy petard in the court hearing (if they don't bottle before).
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Hello,

 

My dad received a letter today from his housing association, the housing officer would like to visit him to discuss possible changes to his welfare benefit from April 2013. He wants my dad to complete a budget sheet detailing his total income and total outgoings each month. In the letter he says that in order to give my dad information about whether the changes will affect him financially he wants to discuss in detail his current income and spending.

 

Has anyone had one of these visits yet? I have to admit I am suspicious about anything I get from the council and housing association, I think getting my dad through the ESA process has done this to me. Part of me is wondering why the housing association is asking for the appointment since it isn't them that decides whether his benefit is cut or not (or do they?). My dad is in receipt of DLA and ESA and according to the info I have read on the welfare changes his benefits won't change but this makes me think perhaps the housing association wants to visit to try and get my dad out of his house...

 

If anyone has any experience of these visits and the effects it's has on their benefits I would be very grateful if you could share them (I know it might be too early - but this makes me think perhaps my dad is being targeted because it does seem so early) or if anyone has any advice. For some reason I am really worried about this appointment I just can't really put my finger on why, maybe it's just because I'm really jaded about the whole government and system.

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Hello,

 

 

 

My dad received a letter today from his housing association, the housing officer would like to visit him to discuss possible changes to his welfare benefit from April 2013. He wants my dad to complete a budget sheet detailing his total income and total outgoings each month. In the letter he says that in order to give my dad information about whether the changes will affect him financially he wants to discuss in detail his current income and spending.

 

 

 

Has anyone had one of these visits yet? I have to admit I am suspicious about anything I get from the council and housing association, I think getting my dad through the ESA process has done this to me. Part of me is wondering why the housing association is asking for the appointment since it isn't them that decides whether his benefit is cut or not (or do they?). My dad is in receipt of DLA and ESA and according to the info I have read on the welfare changes his benefits won't change but this makes me think perhaps the housing association wants to visit to try and get my dad out of his house...

 

 

 

If anyone has any experience of these visits and the effects it's has on their benefits I would be very grateful if you could share them (I know it might be too early - but this makes me think perhaps my dad is being targeted because it does seem so early) or if anyone has any advice. For some reason I am really worried about this appointment I just can't really put my finger on why, maybe it's just because I'm really jaded about the whole government and system.

 

 

 

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Many Housing Associations offer a sort of benefits service. Mine has a small team under the title Money Matters. It's a free service and might prove useful depending on his circumstances. Certainly nothing to be suspicious about.

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This will primarily be about the change to Universal Credit, DLA changing to PIP (another ATOS assessment to be done) and the bedroom tax (if he's got more bedrooms than is deemed necessary by the government then he will be expected to contribute either 14% or 25% to his rent). There are also changes that will affect Council Tax Benefit and this will vary depending on his local authority. These changes to Housing Benefit & Council TaxSupport only affect people of working age.

 

If he's in receipt of DLA and in an adapted property and affected by the bedroom tax then the Housing Officer may be coming to let him know about Discretionary Housing Payments that can be applied for through the Council.

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rankin, does he live alone? How many bedrooms does the property have? I suspect this is about the bedroom tax

 

Hi abc, I live with my dad in a 3-bed, my brother doesn't live with us but he stays over 3 nights a week in order that I can get 3 full nights sleep a week. I have been reading about the bedroom tax and it seems that because my brother uses the bedroom occasionally my dad might not be affected by the tax, however my brother is working full time and he doesn't get carers allowance and although I am a full time carer I can't get carers allowance either because i am a full time student, since we don't claim carers allowance I wonder if we could be counted as carers then?

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Many Housing Associations offer a sort of benefits service. Mine has a small team under the title Money Matters. It's a free service and might prove useful depending on his circumstances. Certainly nothing to be suspicious about.

 

Hi RaeUK, in the letter the housing officer specifically states that he is not able to give advice on benefits, I'm hoping it is just a check to see whether their data matches facts but the whole going into detail about my dads income and outgoings makes me think they are assessing whether he can afford to pay the bedroom tax or not

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This will primarily be about the change to Universal Credit, DLA changing to PIP (another ATOS assessment to be done) and the bedroom tax (if he's got more bedrooms than is deemed necessary by the government then he will be expected to contribute either 14% or 25% to his rent). There are also changes that will affect Council Tax Benefit and this will vary depending on his local authority. These changes to Housing Benefit & Council TaxSupport only affect people of working age.

 

If he's in receipt of DLA and in an adapted property and affected by the bedroom tax then the Housing Officer may be coming to let him know about Discretionary Housing Payments that can be applied for through the Council.

 

Thanks Kevin Bolt, my dad is on DLA but the property isn't adapted. As I explained to abc, I live with my dad in a 3-bed, so there is technically a 'spare bedroom', although my brother does stay over 3 nights a week to help me out during the night.

 

Thanks for listing all the other changes as well, I have to admit when I read that DLA will be changed and another ATOS assessment will need to be done it made me feel a little sick, I just can't believe the government are still using ATOS and this consultation procedure when they should make assessments based on evidence from GPs and hospitals.

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rankin, are you male or female?

 

I'm fairly sure that they would decide a spare room for a carer is not needed in your circumstances though, hardly anyone is going to qualify for this. What rate of care does he get with DLA? Does it state he needs care through the night?

 

I still think this is just to do with the bedroom tax.

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I would love for someone from my housing association to come round and tell what is happening with our benefits.

 

There are tools on my HA website that help, but the whole lot is becoming so complicated.

 

I've found out some of the stuff i need to know but UC is the real puzzler, but then i don't think even the government know about that.

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