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Hi,

 

Could someone please advise me the process I need to take to get the catalogue company off by back.

 

I have looked at other posts in the site, and what I understand is that you can reclaim late penalty charges, is this still the case for 2012 as some posts are old My position is that I have not paid the current penalty charges I only made 1 a year ago and Very Catalogue keep adding £24.00 a month.

 

Initially I was late with my payment by 2 days, and they charged me £12.00 penalty. I have paid all the lawful debt only the charges are outstanding. I requested Very to provide me proof that it actually cost them £12.00 due to my payment reaching them 2 days late, however i only received further demands for payment. The charges have now accumulated to £72.00 and it has been passed on to NDR (Nationwide Debt Recovery). If I don't pay the full balance in 7 days a default will be added on the credit register.

 

I need advise as to how do I proceed in clearing these charges. If I keep ignoring them they are just going to keep adding the charges.

 

Please advise whether I need to use the same procedure for reclaiming the penalty charges.

 

Many thanks

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Hi and welcome to CAG

 

You can reclaim all of those penalty charges with interest.

 

Use the attached spreadsheet to work out your claim amount. The interest rate to be used is at least the rate they charge you. If you want to claim a higher rate then have a read of No.4 in my signature.

 

The "Claim To" date for the spreadsheet is today.

 

When you have done it you send a copy of the spreadsheet to them with a preliminary letter demanding refund. There is a template for a preliminary letter in the CAG library, the link to which is at the top of every CAG page in green.

 

If they do not pay then you would issue a "Letter Before Action" and if they still don't pay then you would issue in court.

 

Send your letters recorded delivery to the company's registered office and remember, you control the time scales on this so don't put up with any of their nonsense saying they will get back to you in 8 weeks time.

 

If any default is put on your file, if you can show that it was as a direct result of unlawful charges then you can get it removed.

 

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CISheet v101.xls

 

 

 

EDIT: Thread moved to mail order catalogue forum

 

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Hi,

 

What is the caselaw and legislation to rely on in court for unlawful penalty charges ie late payment charges by Very. Very have not replied to my preliminary letter to refund and wipe out unlawful charges, which I have not paid them, so I will take them to court.

 

Thanks

 

Ghazala

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Hi,

 

I am a bit confused as to whether I should be making a claim against Very Shop Direct at the county court.

 

They charged me a number of penalty charges but I have not paid them.

 

They have been pestering me for the charges.

 

I was thinking of taking them to court to have this debt wiped off.

 

Can someone please advise me if I can go through this route when I have not paid the charges and would I make the claim as a no money claim.

 

Thanks

Ghazala

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why?

 

just put in a reclaim

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dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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several threads and posts merged to one thread

 

please use this one only for everything related to this issue

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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i've moved this thread to the cat forum

 

plenty of thread here to read/follow

 

fill this out first:

 

This fourth spreadsheet is useful in calculating a regulatory based compound interest award for PPI on a Revolving Credit Account. Not all statements are required for this sheet because it will work out the compound interest on the PPI payments you do know about. It will not work out the additional 8% interest, to do that you will need spreadsheet three above AND all of your statements.

 

FosCISheet v101.xls

 

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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You can't reclaim it if you haven't paid it in the 1st place.

 

Then again, catalogues have very little power to get the money off you, do you still owe them for goods?

 

Personally, I'd finish paying off what I owe for goods, then tell them to do one, and to take you to court if they want the charges and you'll be quite happy to get the judge to tell them to justify those. (they won't, they'll pass it to a DCA instead!)

 

Edit: Sorry, just re-read your post and you did state that it's only the charges that are left. Tell them to sod off them :madgrin:

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ofcourse you can reclaim charges not already paid!

 

just comes off the notional balance

 

unless they SELL the debt to a DCA

 

they have NO POWERS to do ANYTHING

 

they are NOT BAILIFFS

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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who said anything about court?

 

reclaiming does not involve that

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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It doesn't? Jeez, I wonder what this site has been doing for the last nearly 7 years! So, the thousands of people on here who have filed at SCC and got their money back, the court system that got jammed up because of them, the other thousands of cases stayed by the courts when the test case came, and of course, the extensive CAG library advising people how to do it... where did they go wrong? :lol:

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