Jump to content


  • Tweets

  • Posts

    • Hello, Firstly, and most importantly I am sorry for your loss. I would go back to the bank with the death certificate and ask them to step in. Remind them firmly but politely that there is no limit for DD claims
    • My wife is the named person to his bank account with him having Dementia being his daughter (I say named person she still is but he recently passed away and the deputyship application has now being stopped by the solicitor as it's no longer needed) We've only just got the Death Certificate so the bank will be the next step informing them. She went to the bank and explained the situation but even being his named person the bank said she didn't have the power to stop DD without any legal documents (virgin money) was the bank. She could have copies of bank statements that was about it.
    • I see you said you tried to stop the DD but it seems that didn't work. May I please ask why that didn't work? You should be asking your bank to cancel the DD and I don't see why they would have objected, hopefully you can clarify this. I agree that you should be making a claim here against your bank and ask them for a DD refund. There is no timeframes for this.
    • Thanks DX,   I wasn't aware we could do that for that length of time. I'll ask my wife to check with the bank this week
    • Yeah That's correct. We left rent payment coming out of his bank account from January 2023 - August 2023 until we could find somewhere to sort out his belongings which was fine. I tried to give notice a few times from August 2023 asking for advice from Sanctuary housing how we went about this explaining his condition and that he was in a Nursing home from December 2022. I explained we don't have any legal powers to his account like POT but were in the process of going for Deputyship and that I was the named person to act on his behalf to speak with Santuary housing. I said we could provide details of his condition and proof he was now in a nursing home with date he moved in. This went ignored despite repeated attempts to contact them until a housing manager contacted us end of February 2024 and notice was finally accepted with his tenancy coming to an end March 22 2024. Although they have continued to take rental payments for the flat despite someone else living in it from the 1st April. I wasn't aware payments were still being taken till I checked his May banks statements. I had asked them to back date rental payments to August 2023 when I gave notice rather than just giving notice in March 2024 but they've ignored that bit. I don't see why they shouldn't give it back they've taken money they shouldn't have.
  • Recommended Topics

  • Our picks

    • If you are buying a used car – you need to read this survival guide.
      • 1 reply
    • Hello,

      On 15/1/24 booked appointment with Big Motoring World (BMW) to view a mini on 17/1/24 at 8pm at their Enfield dealership.  

      Car was dirty and test drive was two circuits of roundabout on entry to the showroom.  Was p/x my car and rushed by sales exec and a manager into buying the mini and a 3yr warranty that night, sale all wrapped up by 10pm.  They strongly advised me taking warranty out on car that age (2017) and confirmed it was honoured at over 500 UK registered garages.

      The next day, 18/1/24 noticed amber engine warning light on dashboard , immediately phoned BMW aftercare team to ask for it to be investigated asap at nearest garage to me. After 15 mins on hold was told only their 5 service centres across the UK can deal with car issues with earliest date for inspection in March ! Said I’m not happy with that given what sales team advised or driving car. Told an amber warning light only advisory so to drive with caution and call back when light goes red.

      I’m not happy to do this, drive the car or with the after care experience (a sign of further stresses to come) so want a refund and to return the car asap.

      Please can you advise what I need to do today to get this done. 
       

      Many thanks 
      • 81 replies
    • Housing Association property flooding. https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/438641-housing-association-property-flooding/&do=findComment&comment=5124299
      • 161 replies
    • We have finally managed to obtain the transcript of this case.

      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

      Frankly I don't think that is any accident.

      One of the points that the judge made was that the customers contract with the broker specifically refers to the courier – and it is clear that the courier knows that they are acting for a third party. There is no need to name the third party. They just have to be recognisably part of a class of person – such as a sender or a recipient of the parcel.

      Please note that a recent case against UPS failed on exactly the same issue with the judge held that the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 did not apply.

      We will be getting that transcript very soon. We will look at it and we will understand how the judge made such catastrophic mistakes. It was a very poor judgement.
      We will be recommending that people do include this adverse judgement in their bundle so that when they go to county court the judge will see both sides and see the arguments against this adverse judgement.
      Also, we will be to demonstrate to the judge that we are fair-minded and that we don't mind bringing everything to the attention of the judge even if it is against our own interests.
      This is good ethical practice.

      It would be very nice if the parcel delivery companies – including EVRi – practised this kind of thing as well.

       

      OT APPROVED, 365MC637, FAROOQ, EVRi, 12.07.23 (BRENT) - J v4.pdf
        • Like
  • Recommended Topics

Rossendales & crown court capital contribution order


style="text-align: center;">  

Thread Locked

because no one has posted on it for the last 4094 days.

If you need to add something to this thread then

 

Please click the "Report " link

 

at the bottom of one of the posts.

 

If you want to post a new story then

Please

Start your own new thread

That way you will attract more attention to your story and get more visitors and more help 

 

Thanks

Recommended Posts

Hi, I'm a complete newbie, so apologies if I'm in the wrong forum! I hope no one will mind ...

 

I got myself into a bit of a mess a couple of years ago and, to cut a long story short, pleaded guilty in the Crown Court in August 2011.

 

I was taken through the application for legal aid (CDS15?) by my solicitor.

I had no income, having had to resign from work and my only equity was the value of my home in excess of the mortgages on it (there are 2).

 

I was told that I wouldn't have to make a contribution to my defence.

Imagine my horror, then, when I received an Order from Rossendales telling me that I was required to pay £3500 ish to them within 28 days (30 April 2012). I managed somehow to misread the order and thought that I had 28 days after 30.4.12 when, in fact, 30.4.12 was the deadline.

 

It now seems, after talking to Rossendales, that they intend to enforce recovery!

Help! What do I do?

I'm only receiving JSA and have no other income.

If a bailiff calls, and I'm sure one will, do I have to let him in?

What can he do?

Can he take anything then and there?

 

I've been in touch with my solicitor but, as yet, I've had no definitive reply from him.

He suspects that the debt ought never have been passed to Rossendales and that it should be returned to the Legal Services Commission immediately!

All very well and good ... if that's what'll happen.

But, will it?

 

 

Meanwhile, I'm waiting for that first knock!

Can anyone give me some guidance/advice on what to do, please?

 

 

Britannicus

Edited by dx100uk
spacing
Link to post
Share on other sites

Hi wlcome to CAG.

As you have a solicitor can they not

contact Rossendales and the Commisson

for you.

Any Letters I Draft are N0T approved by CAG and no personal liability is accepted.

Please Consider making a donation to keep this site running!

Nemo Mortalium Omnibus Horis Sapit: Animo et Fide:

Link to post
Share on other sites

Hi, Thanks for your response.

Well, I managed to get back in touch with my solicitor.

 

He's agreed to write to the magistrates court on Tuesday 8.5.12 to find out what was put on the CDS15 form and whether or not it can be queried with the Legal Services Commission (LSC). This is a step forward, I think.

 

However, our chums at Rossendales aren't in the loop.

So, I'm still faced with a headache of an unwelcome rat-tat-tat-tat on the door.

Do you think I could use one of the letters on CAG to advise them of what's going on, please?

All help gratefully received!

 

Britannicus

Link to post
Share on other sites

As we do not know the circumstances of 'your bit of bother' or what resulted from it and the details of the Judgment relating to it all, it is difficult to advise any way other than that Brig has already done......it could be you were ordered to 'pay' an injured party their 'costs' and this is what the bailiffs are chasing.

 

As you were represented in Court, the 'claimant' should direct all correspondance to the representing solicitor, they in turn should contact you and any dispute goes up and down that chain of representaion. I would send a very short letter to Rossendale asking they outline the reason for enforcement be directed to your solicitor.

 

Dear Sir

 

I suggest your Client be advised, alleging there to be a dispute in need of enforcement, suggests they need to direct all correspondence in relation to that dispute to the solicitor appointed by the LSC.

 

Yours faithfully

Link to post
Share on other sites

Hi, Thanks for your response.

I'm not sure if it's from Collect.

I'll check it out.

 

And, no, it's got nothing to do with paying injured parties.

 

It's all to do with paying legal costs.

Thanks for pointing out the possibility, though!

Many thanks

,Britannicus.

Link to post
Share on other sites

To collect on a debt there are different scenarios.

 

You just owe and it hasn't been to Court

- in which case the letter you have is from Rossendales Collect who are purely debt collectors with no powers apart from filling things in with red crayon.

 

They have a CCJ - in which case it is the County Court Bailiff - nothing to do with Rossendales

 

They have a CCJ & transferred enforcement to the High Court as it is for more than £600

- in which case a High Court Enforcement Officer will be involved,

however it is very rare that they write first,

the first you usually know is when they knock on the door.

 

Because of the sum involved they have a High Court Order

- see the previous note.

 

I suspect if it has come by letter then it is purely down to being a debt collector, they may be being naughty if they are using HCEO or Bailiff letterheading though.

 

PT

Edited by dx100uk
spacing

Please consider making a small donation to help keep this site running

 

[sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]

 

Link to post
Share on other sites

  • 2 months later...

Got an identical problem since Nov 2010 to date!

Did your solicitor get any joy from the LSC?

I'm finding it impossible for them to back down / deal with the truth.

Do not give in !

 

Check the following thread I posted

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?357857-I-want-to-sue-a-DCA-for-Harassment-re-incorrect-demands-for-money-since-Nov-2010!

 

Also see the following links:

http://www.lawgazette.co.uk/news/lsc-debt-collection-tactics-criticised

http://www.lawgazette.co.uk/opinion/letters/utter-shambles

http://www.lawgazette.co.uk/opinion/letters/odious-legislation

Link to post
Share on other sites

  • 7 months later...

I know this is an old thread but I thought I should answer it correctly in case anyone else is looking for the answer.

If you apply for legal aid in a criminal case which is sent or committed to the Crown court, you may be asked to pay a contribution towards your legal costs, depending on your financial circumstances.

 

The court will issue an Income Contribution Order is your income is above a certain threshold and is paid monthly OR if you are convicted at the end of the case a Capital Contribution Order, if you have assets or capital above £30,000.

 

The £30,000 limit can also be removed by the court if you have failed to respond to requests for evidence or further information about your financial circumstances.

 

Collection of these contributions orders have been passed to Rossendales.

The courts have various powers of seizure and enforcement.

See here - sorry I can't post the link but look at the justice dot gov dot uk website and search for capital contribution orders

 

Your first step should be to go back to your solicitor to ensure the court has the correct information regarding your financial circumstances.

Link to post
Share on other sites

They appear to be a bunch of apparatchiks that will never see reason.

 

I would suggest you and the solicitor file an application for judicial review against the LSC's decision......... and apply for civil legal aid via the LSC itself.

Link to post
Share on other sites

  • Recently Browsing   0 Caggers

    • No registered users viewing this page.

  • Have we helped you ...?


×
×
  • Create New...