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    • further polished WS using above suggestions and also included couple of more modifications highlighted in orange are those ok to include?   Background   1.1  The Defendant received the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) on the 06th of January 2020 following the vehicle being parked at Arla Old Dairy, South Ruislip on the 05th of December 2019.   Unfair PCN   2.1  On 19th December 2023 the Defendant sent the Claimant's solicitors a CPR request.  As shown in Exhibit 1 (pages 7-13) sent by the solicitors the signage displayed in their evidence clearly shows a £60.00 parking charge notice (which will be reduced to £30 if paid within 14 days of issue).  2.2  Yet the PCN sent by the Claimant is for a £100.00 parking charge notice (reduced to £60 if paid within 30 days of issue).   2.3        The Claimant relies on signage to create a contract.  It is unlawful for the Claimant to write that the charge is £60 on their signs and then send demands for £100.    2.4        The unlawful £100 charge is also the basis for the Claimant's Particulars of Claim.  No Locus Standi  3.1  I do not believe a contract with the landowner, that is provided following the defendant’s CPR request, gives MET Parking Services a right to bring claims in their own name. Definition of “Relevant contract” from the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4,  2 [1] means a contract Including a contract arising only when the vehicle was parked on the relevant land between the driver and a person who is-   (a) the owner or occupier of the land; or   (b) Authorised, under or by virtue of arrangements made by the owner or occupier of the land, to enter into a contract with the driver requiring the payment of parking charges in respect of the parking of the vehicle on the land. According to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/section/44   For a contract to be valid, it requires a director from each company to sign and then two independent witnesses must confirm those signatures.   3.2  The Defendant requested to see such a contract in the CPR request.  The fact that no contract has been produced with the witness signatures present means the contract has not been validly executed. Therefore, there can be no contract established between MET Parking Services and the motorist. Even if “Parking in Electric Bay” could form a contract (which it cannot), it is immaterial. There is no valid contract.  Illegal Conduct – No Contract Formed   4.1 At the time of writing, the Claimant has failed to provide the following, in response to the CPR request from myself.   4.2        The legal contract between the Claimant and the landowner (which in this case is Standard Life Investments UK) to provide evidence that there is an agreement in place with landowner with the necessary authority to issue parking charge notices and to pursue payment by means of litigation.   4.3 Proof of planning permission granted for signage etc under the Town and country Planning Act 1990. Lack of planning permission is a criminal offence under this Act and no contract can be formed where criminality is involved.   4.4        I also do not believe the claimant possesses these documents.   No Keeper Liability   5.1        The defendant was not the driver at the time and date mentioned in the PCN and the claimant has not established keeper liability under schedule 4 of the PoFA 2012. In this matter, the defendant puts it to the claimant to produce strict proof as to who was driving at the time.   5.2 The claimant in their Notice To Keeper also failed to comply with PoFA 2012 Schedule 4 section 9[2][f] while mentioning “the right to recover from the keeper so much of that parking charge as remains unpaid” where they did not include statement “(if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met)”.     5.3         The claimant did not mention parking period, times on the photographs are separate from the PCN and in any case are that arrival and departure times not the parking period since their times include driving to and from the parking space as a minimum and can include extra time to allow pedestrians and other vehicles to pass in front.    Protection of Freedoms Act 2012   The notice must -   (a) specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;  22. In the persuasive judgement K4GF167G - Premier Park Ltd v Mr Mathur - Horsham County Court – 5 January 2024 it was on this very point that the judge dismissed this claim.  5.4  A the PCN does not comply with the Act the Defendant as keeper is not liable.  No Breach of Contract   6.1       No breach of contract occurred because the PCN and contract provided as part of the defendant’s CPR request shows different post code, PCN shows HA4 0EY while contract shows HA4 0FY. According to PCN defendant parked on HA4 0EY which does not appear to be subject to the postcode covered by the contract.  6.2         The entrance sign does not mention anything about there being other terms inside the car park so does not offer a contract which makes it only an offer to treat,  Interest  7.1  It is unreasonable for the Claimant to delay litigation for  Double Recovery   7.2  The claim is littered with made-up charges.  7.3  As noted above, the Claimant's signs state a £60 charge yet their PCN is for £100.  7.4  As well as the £100 parking charge, the Claimant seeks recovery of an additional £70.  This is simply a poor attempt to circumvent the legal costs cap at small claims.  7.5 Since 2019, many County Courts have considered claims in excess of £100 to be an abuse of process leading to them being struck out ab initio. An example, in the Caernarfon Court in VCS v Davies, case No. FTQZ4W28 on 4th September 2019, District Judge Jones-Evans stated “Upon it being recorded that District Judge Jones- Evans has over a very significant period of time warned advocates (...) in many cases of this nature before this court that their claim for £60 is unenforceable in law and is an abuse of process and is nothing more than a poor attempt to go behind the decision of the Supreme Court v Beavis which inter alia decided that a figure of £160 as a global sum claimed in this case would be a penalty and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss and therefore unenforceable in law and if the practice continued, he would treat all cases as a claim for £160 and therefore a penalty and unenforceable in law it is hereby declared (…) the claim is struck out and declared to be wholly without merit and an abuse of process.”  7.6 In Claim Nos. F0DP806M and F0DP201T, District Judge Taylor echoed earlier General Judgment or Orders of District Judge Grand, stating ''It is ordered that the claim is struck out as an abuse of process. The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the Defendant contracted to pay. This additional charge is not recoverabl15e under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4 nor with reference to the judgment in Parking Eye v Beavis. It is an abuse of process from the Claimant to issue a knowingly inflated claim for an additional sum which it is not entitled to recover. This order has been made by the court of its own initiative without a hearing pursuant to CPR Rule 3.3(4)) of the Civil Procedure Rules 1998...''  7.7 In the persuasive case of G4QZ465V - Excel Parking Services Ltd v Wilkinson – Bradford County Court -2 July 2020 (Exhibit 4) the judge had decided that Excel had won. However, due to Excel adding on the £60 the Judge dismissed the case.  7.8        The addition of costs not previously specified on signage are also in breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015, Schedule 2, specifically paras 6, 10 and 14.   7.9        It is the Defendant’s position that the Claimant in this case has knowingly submitted inflated costs and thus the entire claim should be similarly struck out in accordance with Civil Procedure Rule 3.3(4).   In Conclusion   8.1        I invite the court to dismiss the claim.  Statement of Truth  I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.   
    • Well the difference is that in all our other cases It was Kev who was trying to entrap the motorist so sticking two fingers up to him and daring him to try court was from a position of strength. In your case, sorry, you made a mistake so you're not in the position of strength.  I've looked on Google Maps and the signs are few & far between as per Kev's MO, but there is an entrance sign saying "Pay & Display" (and you've admitted in writing that you knew you had to pay) and the signs by the payment machines do say "Sea View Car Park" (and you've admitted in writing you paid the wrong car park ... and maybe outed yourself as the driver). Something I missed in my previous post is that the LoC is only for one ticket, not two. Sorry, but it's impossible to definitively advise what to so. Personally I'd probably gamble on Kev being a serial bottler of court and reply with a snotty letter ridiculing the signage (given you mentioned the signage in your appeal) - but it is a gamble.  
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hi im new to this site i was hoping someone could help me

 

since november my health and finances have been upside down,

 

i lost my dad to cancer

my stepmum commited suicide the day after causing me to have a major breakdown

and not being able to return to my home and had to stay with family till i felt abit better.

 

since my breakdown i have been put on medication and signed of work so get esa and child benifit/tax

 

my washer was broken and i stupidly decided to try brighthouse recomended by a friend

 

when i went for my washer somehow i was talked in to getting washe,r cooker & fridge freezer together with the osc

 

i have only been paying for a month

 

unfortunatly i could not make payments this week as i honestly on have a few pence to last me till the 7th march.

 

i have had a few very rude conversations with an emploee of brighthouse

 

i said i would pay the arreas when i had money and she said no

she would send someone to collect the equipment monday.

 

i have read some posts about brighthouse

 

im a nevous wreak

 

im sat with my blinds closed

 

so the think im not in when they arrive

 

my son is upstairs playin so he does not know anything but im worried someone will say something to him when hes going to school.

 

i should never have gone to brighthouse but also i feel they have taken advantage of me

 

i am very vunerable at the minute and dont cope with stress

 

as im also fleeing domestic violence

 

will they take my things and leave me with nothing

 

any advise would be great

kind regards

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hi im new to this site i was hoping someone could help me

since november my health and finances have been upside down,i lost my dad to cancer my stepmum commited suicide the day after causing me to have a major breakdown and not being able to return to my home and had to stay with family till i felt abit better.

 

anyway since my breakdown i have been put on medication and signed of work so get esa and child benifit/tax

 

my washer was broken and i stupidly decided to try brighthouse recomended by a friend when i went for my washer somehow i was talked in to getting washer cooker fridge freezer together with the osc i have only been paying for a month unfortunatly i could not make payments this week has i honestly on have a few pence to last me till the 7th march.

 

i have had a few very rude convosations with an emploee of brighthouse i said i would pay the arreas when i had money and she said no she would send someone to collect the equipment monday.

 

i have read somepost about brighthouse im a nevous wreak im sat with my blinds closed so the think im not in when they arrive my son is upstairs playin so he does not no anything but im worried someone will say something to him when hes going to school.

 

i should never have gone to brighthouse but also i feel they have took advantage of me i am very vunrable at the minute and dont cope with stress as im also fleeing domestic violence will they take my things and leave me with nothing any advise would be grate

kind regards tictoria

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This is disgusting, surely being so frightened you can't leave your house isn't right!

 

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my advice would be relax, they cannot demand their stuff back just like that... they need a court order before they can try to force anything. This is hire purchase... you are hiring. Get yourself into a better position and you can buy nice good quality cheap things from sites like gumtree and return the overpriced shoddy goods to brighthouse and repay any arrears in your own time.

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go up on freecycle site

put out a plea for the items you need to replace the BH ones.

 

then contact BH and tell them to come and get them

 

this is an HP agreement in the very early stages

i'm sure they would allow you to cancel without penalty.

 

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when i went for my washer somehow i was talked in to getting washe,r cooker & fridge freezer together with the osc

i have only been paying for a month

unfortunatly i could not make payments this week as i honestly on have a few pence to last me till the 7th march.

 

i have had a few very rude conversations with an emploee of brighthouse

i said i would pay the arreas when i had money and she said no

she would send someone to collect the equipment monday.

 

Congratulations, this is excellent news. Don't hide behind your curtains, stand out in the street and show them where to back the van up. Then tell your neighbours that you worked out how much BH were trying to charge you and you were not going to stand for their shameful rip-off tactics. You have escaped a complete [problem], tictoria - you would have paid them 3 or 4 times the true value of the appliances, and they would've still treated you like dirt. Be glad, be happy, and make sure they take their property back as soon as possible.

 

When you've got rid of their stuff, sit down and work out an affordable alternative. Does your family have a spare washer? Would someone lend you £200 to buy a new one for cash, from Comet or Currys etc? With the better weather coming, could you manage with hand-washing for a few months until your situation improves? Can you scrounge the use of a washing machine from a friend or neighbour? Is there a social services or domestic violence service that can get you a working washer? Sorry if this is in poor taste, but will you be receiving anything from the estate of your father & stepmother?

 

Whatever you do, do not take on credit - you are a very poor risk and you will only be able to borrow at very high rates.

 

Good luck!

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hi thanks for all your coments i have found this site very usefull.

i was advised the goods would be collected monday but no one came wot do i do now

kind regards

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hi thanks for all your coments i have found this site very usefull.

i was advised the goods would be collected monday but no one came wot do i do now

 

Write to them, keeping a copy. Say that they cancelled the agreement and were due to collect the goods on Monday. You are content to allow collection at any convenient time in the next 14 days, after which you will dispose of the abandoned goods. Make no further payment, apart from clearing arrears.

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From a professional point of view they owe a duty of care to their customers.

From a legal point of view they would need a court order to get the goods back, and for 1 months payment in arrears I cannot see a judge awarding this

From a business point of view they should be more than helpful getting the interest rates they are... After all, the longer they can drag on the HP the more interest they get.

 

What is best for the customer is to return the goods and get some cheap 2nd hand ones as brighthouse overcharge on items and give as little help as they can after the fact.

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[EDIT] a bereaved and vulnerable benefit-dependent person was persuaded to sign up for a vanload of shiny new things which she couldn't conceivably afford to pay for (especially at BH's special "triple-it-and-add-a-bit" prices). Now it's all ended in tears, obviously and predictably.

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