Quick ATOS "Medical"

[Life-Goes-On]

Had my medical this morning, took under 10 mins.

 

Not what I was expecting, but do still expect 0 points.

[honeybee13]

They can't have had time to ask you much! Fingers crossed for you.

 

My best, HB

[Life-Goes-On]

No, it was very basic.

Maybe it was the question "do you drive" I stated "No, Dr told me I'm not allowed, as I black out"

 

I know I should get 15 points for the "altered state of consciousness" but still expect 0

[honeybee13]

I know, it's a shame you feel you can't trust them. The only consolation is that you know exactly how to fight back if you need to.

 

HB

[Life-Goes-On]

Very true.

It's something that I will have to get use too

[lee100]

Had my medical this morning, took under 10 mins.

 

Not what I was expecting, but do still expect 0 points.

 

Hi,

 

Sorry to read this.

 

My best advice to you, would be to assume that you've 'failed', as most people do.

 

Focus on your appeal now, ahead of time.

 

You can download / print off your appeal form here -

 

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Diol1/DoItOnline/DG_4017514

 

Ensure you have this filled out and ready to send (signed for) ahead of time, as soon as you get your result through.

 

60 - 70% of Appeals are successful with representation.

 

Good Luck.

[osdset]

No, it was very basic.

Maybe it was the question "do you drive" I stated "No, Dr told me I'm not allowed, as I black out"

 

I know I should get 15 points for the "altered state of consciousness" but still expect 0

 

Lol! apart from other mitigating health problems I have the same issue I black out without warning, the DVLC revoked my licence 7 years ago because of it, but according to the ATOS HCP because I did not pass out in front of him, my GP, and the DVLC are 'mistaken' so zero points, quite funny really because I knew the way the assessment was going, and at the end when the HCP said "have you any questions" and I replied "how long for the zero point letter mate, because the appeal paperwork is ready to go" he looked like someone had just given him a slap, it made my day.

[worried33]

for what its worth my quickest ever assessment resulted in a unfit for work result however that was on the old IB assessment. I basically handed a letter of my specialist, the assessor read it, smiled, did some quick physical tests and didnt use the computer at all.

 

The assessment I failed on (my first ever one) was entirely done on the computer by a doctor that looked like he couldnt care less if I had a cardiac arrest there and then.

 

Is there advice to get representation on appeals?

 

When I appealed a DLA decision I had legal aid initially but they bailed out on me before I had the apeal saying their funds were too limited to represent everyone.

[Nystagmite]

Lol! apart from other mitigating health problems I have the same issue I black out without warning, the DVLC revoked my licence 7 years ago because of it, but according to the ATOS HCP because I did not pass out in front of him, my GP, and the DVLC are 'mistaken' so zero points, quite funny really because I knew the way the assessment was going, and at the end when the HCP said "have you any questions" and I replied "how long for the zero point letter mate, because the appeal paperwork is ready to go" he looked like someone had just given him a slap, it made my day.

 

That is ridiculous. I don't know of anyone who passes out (my dad has epilepsy and I did / do have it) like that. It's not something that you can just predict.

[lee100]

for what its worth my quickest ever assessment resulted in a unfit for work result however that was on the old IB assessment. I basically handed a letter of my specialist, the assessor read it, smiled, did some quick physical tests and didnt use the computer at all.

 

The assessment I failed on (my first ever one) was entirely done on the computer by a doctor that looked like he couldnt care less if I had a cardiac arrest there and then.

 

Is there advice to get representation on appeals?

 

When I appealed a DLA decision I had legal aid initially but they bailed out on me before I had the apeal saying their funds were too limited to represent everyone.

 

Hi,

 

I'm confused.

 

The most recent assessment which you've had, and failed; Was that for ESA?

 

For help in preparing your Appeal, I would recommend going to your local CAB.

 

Ask for a Welfare Rights Advisor.

 

There's also a very helpful post (by honeybee13) on here, regarding the Appeal process -

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?251737-Appealing-or-going-to-a-Tribunal-Some-useful-information(6-Viewing)-nbsp

 

I'd also start a new thread, so that your post will be easier to find.

 

Good Luck.

[worried33]

I have no local cab's all shut due to lack of funding, any other places?

 

I have had in total 3 medicals for IB, none yet for ESA.

 

First one - failed, was all computer based lasted about 15 minutes.

Second one - passed was mixed and lasted about 30 minutes.

third one - passed and lasted about 5 minutes, computer not used at all.

 

I would have had an ESA medical last month but as can see in my other posts it never happened due to postage/clerical errors made.

[lee100]

Ok.

 

People on here have mentioned getting help from Mind and DIAL too.

 

All the best.

[count orlok]

Has anyone passed (failed) an ATOS medical and been declared unfit for work?

 

I had quite a few IB medicals and was always declared unfit for work, sometimes the doctor even questioned why i had even been called in (even though I look "normal"). When I was migrated to ESA I filled out the ESA50 and was put straight into the support group without having to attend a medical.

 

From what I have read i don't think i could go through an ATOS medical without kicking off big time. To be honest I just don't want to go there (not literally, if they won't come to me I won't have one), and would rather just come off the benefit, If i have to go to an assessment; i certainly could not go through another appeal (did one for wife's DLA & won). I have an underlying entitlement to carers allowance (but don't get it because I get/got IB/ESA), when i got the 1st call i said I couldn't be bothered and would just go on CA, the guy said to at least fill in the forms and see how it went.

 

I'm wondering how the system is going to stand up to all the DLA reassessments from 2013 with their resulting appeals added to what we have now and all those in the support group being reassessed. Added to all this we will have the collapse of the Motability scheme, because of all the loses caused by the new PIP benefit and ending of long term awards.

 

I blame Nick Clegg.

[Life-Goes-On]

About the "medical"

 

According to the ESA the points are awarded for how far you can walk, but I was asked how long in time I could walk for.

 

So anyone have any idea how the two compare?

[honeybee13]

About the "medical"

 

According to the ESA the points are awarded for how far you can walk, but I was asked how long in time I could walk for.

 

So anyone have any idea how the two compare?

 

I think it might be one of their conveniently worded questions that seem to feed odd information into the LiMA system. This often appears to act against the claimant.

[Nystagmite]

About the "medical"

 

According to the ESA the points are awarded for how far you can walk, but I was asked how long in time I could walk for.

 

So anyone have any idea how the two compare?

 

That makes no sense - some people can walk for a good 10 minutes; but walk very slowly.

[Life-Goes-On]

The whole medical didn't make sense, so many questions were skipped.

[lee100]

The fact that the whole 'assessment' is farcical is a given.

 

Nobody on here (other than one person) has posted that they've 'passed' their so called medical.

 

Ruminating over what they should've asked / didn't ask, is a moot point. (This comes later, when you go through each discrepancy step - by - step in your appeal submission).

 

Accept what we all have to work with, and just focus on your appeal.

 

60 - 70% of people, with representation, WIN!

[worried33]

so it sounds like if you to qualify without an appeal it happens without a medical, and if one is called for a medical they should assume they will fail it.

 

how many win without represenation, why does representation boost the stats, how to get representation when no CAB in the area. Lots of questions

 

if I could afford it I would drop my claim right away its far too stressful and hard work.

[honeybee13]

so it sounds like if you to qualify without an appeal it happens without a medical, and if one is called for a medical they should assume they will fail it.

 

how many win without represenation, why does representation boost the stats, how to get representation when no CAB in the area. Lots of questions

 

if I could afford it I would drop my claim right away its far too stressful and hard work.

 

Well I won without representation. I had a submission which is now the forum sticky and then I answered the panel's questions with my OH for moral support. He didn't speak.

 

HB

[osdset]

so it sounds like if you to qualify without an appeal it happens without a medical, and if one is called for a medical they should assume they will fail it.

 

how many win without represenation, why does representation boost the stats, how to get representation when no CAB in the area. Lots of questions

 

if I could afford it I would drop my claim right away its far too stressful and hard work.

I have been wondering about this issue with representation, I am assuming it's for those that cannot present their case alone, I cannot see how turning up at the tribunal with all the corroborating evidence to back up a claim cannot win, it must be judged on evidence alone.

[worried33]

ok will read that sticky thanks.

 

although I think even having someone with you makes them think twice about turning down appeals as a witness is present.

[honeybee13]

I didn't have to present my case. We had submitted the letter the template is based on and corroborating evidence that backed up what we were saying.

 

The panel just asked me some questions about my day to day life and problems.

 

I don't know if anyone has had a different experience, as mine was several years ago now.

 

HB

[Life-Goes-On]

Reading the BBC web site where a story stated "fit in three minutes"

I thought it was about an ATOS "medical".

[honeybee13]

Reading the BBC web site where a story stated "fit in three minutes"

I thought it was about an ATOS "medical".

 

I would have too . What was it about then? HB