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    • Well the difference is that in all our other cases It was Kev who was trying to entrap the motorist so sticking two fingers up to him and daring him to try court was from a position of strength. In your case, sorry, you made a mistake so you're not in the position of strength.  I've looked on Google Maps and the signs are few & far between as per Kev's MO, but there is an entrance sign saying "Pay & Display" (and you've admitted in writing that you knew you had to pay) and the signs by the payment machines do say "Sea View Car Park" (and you've admitted in writing you paid the wrong car park ... and maybe outed yourself as the driver). Something I missed in my previous post is that the LoC is only for one ticket, not two. Sorry, but it's impossible to definitively advise what to so. Personally I'd probably gamble on Kev being a serial bottler of court and reply with a snotty letter ridiculing the signage (given you mentioned the signage in your appeal) - but it is a gamble.  
    • No! What has happened is that your pix were up-to-date: 5 hours' maximum stay and £100 PCN. The lazy solicitors have sent ancient pictures: 4 hours' maximum stay and £60 PCN. Don't let on!  Let them be hoisted by their own lazy petard in the court hearing (if they don't bottle before).
    • Thanks for all the suggestions so far I will amend original WS and send again for review.  While looking at my post at very beginning when I submitted photos of signs around the car park I noticed that it says 5 hours maximum stay while the signage sent by solicitor shows 4 hours maximum stay but mine is related to electric bay abuse not sure if this can be of any use in WS.
    • Not sure what to make of that or what it means for me, I was just about to head to my kip and it's a bit too late for legalise. When is the "expenditure occured"?  When they start spending money to write to me?  Or is this a bad thing (as "harsh" would imply)? When all is said and done, I do not have two beans to rub together, we rent our home and EVERYTHING of value has been purchased by and is in my wife's name and we are not financially linked in any way.  So at least if I can't escape my fate I can at least know that they will get sweet FA from me anyway   edit:  ah.. Sophia Harrison: Time bar decision tough on claimants WWW.SCOTTISHLEGAL.COM Time bar is a very complex area of law in Scotland relating to the period in which a claim for breach of duty can be pursued. The Scottish government...   This explains it like I am 5.  So, a good thing then because creditors clearly know they have suffered a loss the minute I stop paying them, this is why it is "harsh" (for them, not me)? Am I understanding this correctly?  
    • urm......exactly what you filed .....read it carefully... it puts them to strict proof to prove the debt is enforceable, so thus 'holds' their claim till they coughup or not and discontinue. you need to get readingthose threads i posted so you understand. then you'll know whats maybe next how to react or not and whats after that. 5-10 threads a day INHO. dont ever do anything without checking here 1st.
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Yep it is and I'm going through it at the moment. Trying to negotiate with their solicitors before next tuesday to stop the bankrupcy hearing as I don't want to lose my house (and pets if I have to move as theye've all I have that means anything these days) over a few grand (which I can pay but not by tuesday).

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Hi F/B..

IMHO I would rather take my chance in court, giving valid reasons why the Bankruptcy should not be allowed, explain the full reasons for the debt, whether or not they are the original creditors, or are they one of the uncouth DCA'S that have bought the debt for peanuts, and know that they can threaten and bully the defendant to get a fantastic return on the initial amount they paid, if the latter of thee above then is all the paperwork you have received "coatia", are you working at the moment or on government benefits, try offering a suitable payment each month, and suspend the bankruptcy on the terms agreed.

 

Me myself would not give them the satisfaction of lining their corrupt pockets anymore stand ur ground and dont backdown, they cannot refuse an offer of regular pmts agreed with the courts which is usually determined on what u can realistically afford at the timewhat was the debt originally for and is it covered by the CCA 1974 Act.

 

Is the debt increasing by way of criminal interest charges being applied by the DCA'S, dont let them win stand ur ground then if all else fails let them go ahead.

If u have more creditors demanding money secured by way of ur house they MAY not even get paid as they have to relinquish their rights over your property in order to gain the bankruptcy, as a SECURED Creditor, CANNOT gain the bankruptcy whilst still having security upon ur house

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Beware though you will also end up having to pay their costs as well - I have to pay 1000 on top of a 7000 credit card debt because mine has gone to court. I am taking this seriously as I personally don't want to risk my chance at court and lose as I then lose my house and all my pets and subsequently what is my current life which is something I hold very highly - As a singleton I would be way down the pecking order for suitable rehousing - I do not want to lose all this for a 7000 (now 8000!) debt.

 

If you have a house and don't want to lose it or be homeless then take note and do something now (in my own defence my mother committed suicide at the time of the debt takeover so I wasn't in a position to stop it emotionally before it got to this stage but the law doesn't care about this all they want to know at this stage is do I have enough money to satisfy the debt to the creditor and making repayments after the event will not be an option many courts allow)

 

BTW the original debt was sold to 1stCredit who do what they say - in fact the whole process was about 4 months from original debt takeover to actual court proceedings - they have moved swiftly

 

I have offered to pay in installments but they want a huge portion of the amount for it to go away (ie, over 2/3 of it). I am not on benefits (am looking into tax credit and housing/coucnil tax benefit at the moment) but am self-employed with small income due to the recession (and I have fibromyalgia). I have been given a little time to do this now (already had 1 adjournment at my request and they requested another at last minute on friday) and hoping all the money is coming through on time.

 

I agree with you that by time everything is paid off they may not get much but my sanity can't afford to let it get that far!

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