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    • further polished WS using above suggestions and also included couple of more modifications highlighted in orange are those ok to include?   Background   1.1  The Defendant received the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) on the 06th of January 2020 following the vehicle being parked at Arla Old Dairy, South Ruislip on the 05th of December 2019.   Unfair PCN   2.1  On 19th December 2023 the Defendant sent the Claimant's solicitors a CPR request.  As shown in Exhibit 1 (pages 7-13) sent by the solicitors the signage displayed in their evidence clearly shows a £60.00 parking charge notice (which will be reduced to £30 if paid within 14 days of issue).  2.2  Yet the PCN sent by the Claimant is for a £100.00 parking charge notice (reduced to £60 if paid within 30 days of issue).   2.3        The Claimant relies on signage to create a contract.  It is unlawful for the Claimant to write that the charge is £60 on their signs and then send demands for £100.    2.4        The unlawful £100 charge is also the basis for the Claimant's Particulars of Claim.  No Locus Standi  3.1  I do not believe a contract with the landowner, that is provided following the defendant’s CPR request, gives MET Parking Services a right to bring claims in their own name. Definition of “Relevant contract” from the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4,  2 [1] means a contract Including a contract arising only when the vehicle was parked on the relevant land between the driver and a person who is-   (a) the owner or occupier of the land; or   (b) Authorised, under or by virtue of arrangements made by the owner or occupier of the land, to enter into a contract with the driver requiring the payment of parking charges in respect of the parking of the vehicle on the land. According to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/section/44   For a contract to be valid, it requires a director from each company to sign and then two independent witnesses must confirm those signatures.   3.2  The Defendant requested to see such a contract in the CPR request.  The fact that no contract has been produced with the witness signatures present means the contract has not been validly executed. Therefore, there can be no contract established between MET Parking Services and the motorist. Even if “Parking in Electric Bay” could form a contract (which it cannot), it is immaterial. There is no valid contract.  Illegal Conduct – No Contract Formed   4.1 At the time of writing, the Claimant has failed to provide the following, in response to the CPR request from myself.   4.2        The legal contract between the Claimant and the landowner (which in this case is Standard Life Investments UK) to provide evidence that there is an agreement in place with landowner with the necessary authority to issue parking charge notices and to pursue payment by means of litigation.   4.3 Proof of planning permission granted for signage etc under the Town and country Planning Act 1990. Lack of planning permission is a criminal offence under this Act and no contract can be formed where criminality is involved.   4.4        I also do not believe the claimant possesses these documents.   No Keeper Liability   5.1        The defendant was not the driver at the time and date mentioned in the PCN and the claimant has not established keeper liability under schedule 4 of the PoFA 2012. In this matter, the defendant puts it to the claimant to produce strict proof as to who was driving at the time.   5.2 The claimant in their Notice To Keeper also failed to comply with PoFA 2012 Schedule 4 section 9[2][f] while mentioning “the right to recover from the keeper so much of that parking charge as remains unpaid” where they did not include statement “(if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met)”.     5.3         The claimant did not mention parking period, times on the photographs are separate from the PCN and in any case are that arrival and departure times not the parking period since their times include driving to and from the parking space as a minimum and can include extra time to allow pedestrians and other vehicles to pass in front.    Protection of Freedoms Act 2012   The notice must -   (a) specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;  22. In the persuasive judgement K4GF167G - Premier Park Ltd v Mr Mathur - Horsham County Court – 5 January 2024 it was on this very point that the judge dismissed this claim.  5.4  A the PCN does not comply with the Act the Defendant as keeper is not liable.  No Breach of Contract   6.1       No breach of contract occurred because the PCN and contract provided as part of the defendant’s CPR request shows different post code, PCN shows HA4 0EY while contract shows HA4 0FY. According to PCN defendant parked on HA4 0EY which does not appear to be subject to the postcode covered by the contract.  6.2         The entrance sign does not mention anything about there being other terms inside the car park so does not offer a contract which makes it only an offer to treat,  Interest  7.1  It is unreasonable for the Claimant to delay litigation for  Double Recovery   7.2  The claim is littered with made-up charges.  7.3  As noted above, the Claimant's signs state a £60 charge yet their PCN is for £100.  7.4  As well as the £100 parking charge, the Claimant seeks recovery of an additional £70.  This is simply a poor attempt to circumvent the legal costs cap at small claims.  7.5 Since 2019, many County Courts have considered claims in excess of £100 to be an abuse of process leading to them being struck out ab initio. An example, in the Caernarfon Court in VCS v Davies, case No. FTQZ4W28 on 4th September 2019, District Judge Jones-Evans stated “Upon it being recorded that District Judge Jones- Evans has over a very significant period of time warned advocates (...) in many cases of this nature before this court that their claim for £60 is unenforceable in law and is an abuse of process and is nothing more than a poor attempt to go behind the decision of the Supreme Court v Beavis which inter alia decided that a figure of £160 as a global sum claimed in this case would be a penalty and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss and therefore unenforceable in law and if the practice continued, he would treat all cases as a claim for £160 and therefore a penalty and unenforceable in law it is hereby declared (…) the claim is struck out and declared to be wholly without merit and an abuse of process.”  7.6 In Claim Nos. F0DP806M and F0DP201T, District Judge Taylor echoed earlier General Judgment or Orders of District Judge Grand, stating ''It is ordered that the claim is struck out as an abuse of process. The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the Defendant contracted to pay. This additional charge is not recoverabl15e under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4 nor with reference to the judgment in Parking Eye v Beavis. It is an abuse of process from the Claimant to issue a knowingly inflated claim for an additional sum which it is not entitled to recover. This order has been made by the court of its own initiative without a hearing pursuant to CPR Rule 3.3(4)) of the Civil Procedure Rules 1998...''  7.7 In the persuasive case of G4QZ465V - Excel Parking Services Ltd v Wilkinson – Bradford County Court -2 July 2020 (Exhibit 4) the judge had decided that Excel had won. However, due to Excel adding on the £60 the Judge dismissed the case.  7.8        The addition of costs not previously specified on signage are also in breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015, Schedule 2, specifically paras 6, 10 and 14.   7.9        It is the Defendant’s position that the Claimant in this case has knowingly submitted inflated costs and thus the entire claim should be similarly struck out in accordance with Civil Procedure Rule 3.3(4).   In Conclusion   8.1        I invite the court to dismiss the claim.  Statement of Truth  I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.   
    • Well the difference is that in all our other cases It was Kev who was trying to entrap the motorist so sticking two fingers up to him and daring him to try court was from a position of strength. In your case, sorry, you made a mistake so you're not in the position of strength.  I've looked on Google Maps and the signs are few & far between as per Kev's MO, but there is an entrance sign saying "Pay & Display" (and you've admitted in writing that you knew you had to pay) and the signs by the payment machines do say "Sea View Car Park" (and you've admitted in writing you paid the wrong car park ... and maybe outed yourself as the driver). Something I missed in my previous post is that the LoC is only for one ticket, not two. Sorry, but it's impossible to definitively advise what to so. Personally I'd probably gamble on Kev being a serial bottler of court and reply with a snotty letter ridiculing the signage (given you mentioned the signage in your appeal) - but it is a gamble.  
    • No! What has happened is that your pix were up-to-date: 5 hours' maximum stay and £100 PCN. The lazy solicitors have sent ancient pictures: 4 hours' maximum stay and £60 PCN. Don't let on!  Let them be hoisted by their own lazy petard in the court hearing (if they don't bottle before).
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could anyone advise me of what my next step could be after bailiffs fail to recover a debt,

I am owed a sum of money after being sold a clocked car but even after winning the case and getting a warrant of execution I am still left with nothing as the defendant keeps trying to appea to every order the court makesl Which just delays payment

This has been going on since Feb this year so I was wondering if I could get the case transfered to the high court or Is there another method I could use.

 

Any help would be great as I have just come back empty handed from the CAB because they don't know what I can do.

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If you have judgment to say that the Defendant owes you more than £750 (and I assume it says he owes you a specific amount) what about serving him with a statutory demand? This is a nasty thing to have served on you as it can lead to a bankruptcy petition so if the Defendant has the money he should pay up. It's probably not worth doing a statutory demand if you don't intend to follow through with a petition should he not pay up. IMHO it is not worth serving a Petition if they don't have the dosh because it costs a bit and you'll just join a list of creditors.

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If you have judgment to say that the Defendant owes you more than £750 (and I assume it says he owes you a specific amount) what about serving him with a statutory demand? This is a nasty thing to have served on you as it can lead to a bankruptcy petition so if the Defendant has the money he should pay up. It's probably not worth doing a statutory demand if you don't intend to follow through with a petition should he not pay up. IMHO it is not worth serving a Petition if they don't have the dosh because it costs a bit and you'll just join a list of creditors.

 

Ideally that is my last resort, It's just over 2k that is owed so possibly worth doing if all else fails, I was hoping that is I Writ from the high court and use a different bailiff that might be enough to recover the debt.

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Is this someone that sells cars as a trade and does he have a few on his "forecourt" or does he any other assets you know of. Transferring your Judgment to the High Court for a Writ of FiFa is a relatively simple process - cost approx £60. The High Court Enforcement Officer is a more tenacious beast than the County Court Bailiff. If for some reason they do fail then there may be an abortive fee of approx £80 to pay. There are plenty of companies that offer this service - Google HCEO - however please be warned that biggest isn't always best.

 

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This bloke advertises on autotrader as a trader but after some chatting with trading standards I have found out he isn't a registered business, which the DJ didn't seem to care about at the time. I am getting very frustrated because this has been going on since Feb and I have to drive past his house every day to work and all I see are the cars changing on his drive every other day. The county bailiff has failed twice to recover anything so I think it's time to up the game with him.

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I wonder if he is claiming any Benefits? Registered for VAT? Registered with HMRC and pays his taxes? If he sells on Credit does he have an appropriate licence to do so? Any complaints made to Trading Standards? Just thinking out loud if you get my drift.

 

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I wonder if he is claiming any Benefits? Registered for VAT? Registered with HMRC and pays his taxes? If he sells on Credit does he have an appropriate licence to do so? Any complaints made to Trading Standards? Just thinking out loud if you get my drift.

 

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I am yet to look into this purely for selfish reasons ie I want my money first,

I first contacted trading standards back in October last year and gave them at least 20 different cars he was selling around the time I bought mine, they gave he a warning that he should register the business but he has not and also they have done nothing to follow up,

I really do feel let down by the whole justice system at the moment, especially the Judge as when we were in court I explained we needed the 4x4 because we have a 4 year old girl that has leukemia and the year before we got snowed in so the police had to use their 4X4 to get her medication to us and I explained this at the time of purchase to the seller but does any body care!, She has finished treatment now just if you are wondering.

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I am yet to look into this purely for selfish reasons ie I want my money first,

 

That is the end goal for a creditor, not judgment but to get money back.

 

Bankruptcy or insolvency though technically viable are not effective for recovery of monies due as you will end up being an unsecured creditor and will only see some money once the debtor's priority and secured creditors have been satisfied.

 

How he conducts his business, which in this case is most likely as a sole trader is irrelevant to your current dilemma. Let trading standards and the council worry about his business conduct and business rates.

 

You may lodge as many different types of enforcement as you want (barring attachment of earnings which can only be used on its own).

 

If I was not sure of his assets, income, outgoing and bank details, I would personally issue a N316 which is an application for the court to order the debtor to come in for questioning.

 

The application notice will amongst other things, clarify whether you want the debtor to be questioned in front of a judge (good reason required) and if you want the debtor to bring along specific documents to court such as tax returns, bank statements for current, business and savings account, credit card statements, etc.

 

You may attend court yourself and ask the questions or the court office may ask your additional questions by attaching a list of proposed additional questions to your application notice.

 

Have a look at form EX140 which is what the debtor will be expected to answer:

 

http://www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk/courtfinder/forms/ex140_bi_0403.pdf

 

Be sure to ask for other assets such as plasma screen TVs, fur coats, etc, as people conveniently forget that they are assets that may be sold.

 

There are two more crucial points, service of the documents and the debtor's expenses.

 

The document needs to be served personally as the risk of non-attendance or non-compliance is jail time for contempt of court. You can either serve it yourself or have a bailiff do it if you are a litigant in person.

 

Within 7 days of receiving the order, the debtor can request their reasonable expenses to attend court and that you will have to pay.

 

You will need to file affidavit evidence at least 2 days before the hearing stating how the debtor got served, whether they asked for travel expenses and the outstanding amount due under form EX550 linked below.

 

http://hmctsformfinder.justice.gov.uk/courtfinder/forms/ex550_0302.pdf

 

There are a bunch of hurdles to jump over however knowing thy enemy is half the battle won. Not knowing thy enemy is the war lost.

 

Good luck.

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Thanks TD that looks like a good idea to use the n316 when I looked at the questions it basically asks I though wow I wouldn't want anyone knowing my business like that so I might go down this route. You say I need good reason to do so, surely that fact that he hasn't come up with the money but can go to the car auctions and buy more cars to sell Shows he is deliberately ignoring the judgement and doesn't intent to pay me the money is good enough to call him to court again?. thanks for the advice by the way it really helps.

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You say I need good reason to do so, surely that fact that he hasn't come up with the money but can go to the car auctions and buy more cars to sell Shows he is deliberately ignoring the judgement and doesn't intent to pay me the money is good enough to call him to court again?

 

Not a problem. When I mean by good reason is a good reason for this hearing to take place in front of a judge instead of a court officer. You do not want the hearing in front of the judge in the first instance because the normal process is that you or your representative will have to question the debtor, no written record will be kept as you will be doing the questioning but there will be a recording, and form EX140 will not be used. The alternative is that the court officer will question the debtor along the lines of EX140 as well as your addendum. So I would personally go with the court officer.

 

It is another option to consider but you have to follow the process.

 

Please read CPR 71.

 

So submit the application without notice to the debtor.

Then personally serve the debtor the order.

Fill in affidavit evidence.

Attend court.

 

Good luck.

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Tweedledee has given you some good advice and there is plenty to digest with what he has said. I do have one thought over this and that is that your Defendant does indeed appear to know how to play the system but think that may only appertain to the Court bailiff and he may well fold with sterner action.

 

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Tweedledee has given you some good advice and there is plenty to digest with what he has said. I do have one thought over this and that is that your Defendant does indeed appear to know how to play the system but think that may only appertain to the Court bailiff and he may well fold with sterner action.

 

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I think you are right, other than the information the pair of you have given to me,

I was convinced that if the bailiff failed to recover anything I had no other option, So I could not see why he would continue to try and appeal, surely if he knew the system he would just not answer the door to the bailiff and wait to see what my next move would be?

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This is whats getting to me, I know he buys the cars from auction but doesn't register them in his name but the county bailiff said unless the cars are in his name he can not seize them, which I find ridiculous because they are all sat on his drive and if you look on autotrader for them it's him mobile number and home number, now that to me is enough proof.

 

I have contacted my local auction houses to see if they could tell me if the cars had been sold through them, No details just if they have sold them but all i get is No because of the data protection act, do you know if I could request these details under the freedom of information act as they could have a baring on my case?

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