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Recieved a Parking Eye invoice? Here is what to expect.....


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Hi,

 

I am currently helping the locals of Whitehaven, Cumbria fight the nice people at Parking Eye due to them coming into the town and taking over one of the well used carparks. The carpark consists of a Mcdonalds, a Lidl, a Carpetright and a Brantanos. They had applied a 1 hour waiting time (recently went up to 2 hours but their signs are yet to state this). Many parents came to me for help as they had recieved the usual rubbish from Parking Eye as they had overstayed their 1 hour welcome. For a parent who takes their children to McDonalds for lunch, goes to and does the weekly shop and then maybe wants to look in another shop then it just isnt possible in the 1 hour stated by Parking Eye.

 

Well thats a little into the background of why I'm helping the locals and as to why I'm going to make this post and show you the letters you can expect to get from Parking Eye before they disappear back under their rock as to which they came.

 

Letter one:

 

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This is the standard one we have been recieving from Parking Eye. Standard rubbish

Advice = IGNORE

 

Letter two:

 

SecondLetter.jpg

 

This is the second letter you will recieve but this time it has 2 lovely pictures of your car. Please free to frame it or IGNORE

 

Letter three:

 

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The third letter and so far the final letter we have recieved. Scary begging letter telling you its the final demand and they want even more money. Again please IGNORE and spend YOUR money on something useful.

 

Hopefully this post will help anybody going through the stress of Parking Eye and help put their mind at rest. Also please feel free to add any further letters you have recieved from Parking Eye or their Debt Collectors after the third letter above (so far we haven't had anything after the third letter but if we do it will be posted on here).

 

 

Thanks,

 

Sploits :madgrin:

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Thanks Honeybee. I hate to see people being sent 'speculative invoices' by these cowboys (or anyone else from the private parking world). If I can help I will.

 

Thanks again for your support :)

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It would be interesting to find out if that John Mitchell from their "legal department" has any actual legal training or qualifications. My guess is that he is just a bog-standard employee with a fancy title.

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It would be interesting to find out if that John Mitchell from their "legal department" has any actual legal training or qualifications. My guess is that he is just a bog-standard employee with a fancy title.

 

I can confirm that john mitchell doesn't actually exist. It is just a name put on letters

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John Mitchell isn't real???? how could a well respected company like Parking Eye lie to us?? I am in total shock

 

Regards,

 

Sploits,

Head of the legal department in my shed

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Is this the way to get a response? Excuse me for being a bit timid (I am new to this and have just spent15 mins posting just to find out that I wasnt activated!) I have received a PCN from ParkingEye. I did overrun time at Aldi ( son had to have eye test) and I did not use the store (although I meant to) When I got back to carpark I panicked when I realized I had gone over time so I left without shopping at AldiIs the advice just to ignore PCN invoice?

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yes

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Our local pub has a collection box for Parking Charge Notices issued in the area, they are collected and dealt with by someone with specialist knowledge of this issue.

 

Is this special "collection box" sometimes known by us lesser mortals by it's other name of "a shredder" by any chance? :lol:

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In response to crem, no it is actually a collection box near a supermarket who employ a private parking company, however over a period of time invoices have come in from other areas. As a result and in most cases you are informed of the details of the next letter before it arrives.

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  • 1 month later...

My husband received a PCN from Parking Eye on saturday morning £90.00 for his overstay in a B&Q car park.He had actually made a purchase at the store,he was seething.

Result the invoice has been shredded for hamster bedding after he googled it and found it to be a [problem].

At least now we know what to expect in next few weeks/months.

 

This maybe a naieve question but why are they allowed to operate and gain our information from the DVLA?.

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My husband received a PCN from Parking Eye on saturday morning £90.00 for his overstay in a B&Q car park.He had actually made a purchase at the store,he was seething.

Result the invoice has been shredded for hamster bedding after he googled it and found it to be a [problem].

At least now we know what to expect in next few weeks/months.

 

This maybe a naieve question but why are they allowed to operate and gain our information from the DVLA?.

 

Maybe naieve question deserves a cynical answer ?--Because it's a good revenue stream

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Maybe naieve question deserves a cynical answer ?--Because it's a good revenue stream

Correct. As far as it goes. The more detailed answer is that those who are allegedly our betters are so in the thrall of business that they believe everything they are told. As a consequence they have been persuaded that there is actually a need for private parking companies to exist because they fondly imagine that PPC's provide a service - protecting the interests of landowners - when the reality is that they effectively "farm" car parks and are fleecing not only the motorist but landowners as well.

 

That unfortunately is the inconvenient truth but when has truth ever been allowed to get in the way of profit?

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there have been a few, but they have mostly been ex employees or relatives and its been a 'put-up' job, just to give the ppc's a bit of legal clout.

 

oh and ofcourse the famous one of the disabled guy that could not even travel to court to defend himself

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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in the 3rd letter it mentions ccj ect i didnt think a ccj could be got for a speculative invoice is this miss representation or am i wrong

 

 

Anybody can attempt to obtain a CCJ against anybody. I could pick a random name out the phone book and sue them. If they didn't defend, a CCJ would be given against them.

 

The issue is whether the company want to take you to court and their chances of success once there.

 

Chances of court are less than 1%. Chance of them winning in court, again, less than 1%.

 

Ask yourself why they are intent on sending letters and so reluctant to just put in a court claim.

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Hello everyone,

 

I had a Parking Eye notice, as explained in my thread here: Parking Charge Notice to Owner from today (12th August) at 14:39...

 

I cannot post the link as I have not yet reached 10 posts...

 

Anyway, it was interesting to read everyone else's story; mad, is it not, how Parking Eye are BPA members too... Who CAN we trust... :???:

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