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    • further polished WS using above suggestions and also included couple of more modifications highlighted in orange are those ok to include?   Background   1.1  The Defendant received the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) on the 06th of January 2020 following the vehicle being parked at Arla Old Dairy, South Ruislip on the 05th of December 2019.   Unfair PCN   2.1  On 19th December 2023 the Defendant sent the Claimant's solicitors a CPR request.  As shown in Exhibit 1 (pages 7-13) sent by the solicitors the signage displayed in their evidence clearly shows a £60.00 parking charge notice (which will be reduced to £30 if paid within 14 days of issue).  2.2  Yet the PCN sent by the Claimant is for a £100.00 parking charge notice (reduced to £60 if paid within 30 days of issue).   2.3        The Claimant relies on signage to create a contract.  It is unlawful for the Claimant to write that the charge is £60 on their signs and then send demands for £100.    2.4        The unlawful £100 charge is also the basis for the Claimant's Particulars of Claim.  No Locus Standi  3.1  I do not believe a contract with the landowner, that is provided following the defendant’s CPR request, gives MET Parking Services a right to bring claims in their own name. Definition of “Relevant contract” from the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4,  2 [1] means a contract Including a contract arising only when the vehicle was parked on the relevant land between the driver and a person who is-   (a) the owner or occupier of the land; or   (b) Authorised, under or by virtue of arrangements made by the owner or occupier of the land, to enter into a contract with the driver requiring the payment of parking charges in respect of the parking of the vehicle on the land. According to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/section/44   For a contract to be valid, it requires a director from each company to sign and then two independent witnesses must confirm those signatures.   3.2  The Defendant requested to see such a contract in the CPR request.  The fact that no contract has been produced with the witness signatures present means the contract has not been validly executed. Therefore, there can be no contract established between MET Parking Services and the motorist. Even if “Parking in Electric Bay” could form a contract (which it cannot), it is immaterial. There is no valid contract.  Illegal Conduct – No Contract Formed   4.1 At the time of writing, the Claimant has failed to provide the following, in response to the CPR request from myself.   4.2        The legal contract between the Claimant and the landowner (which in this case is Standard Life Investments UK) to provide evidence that there is an agreement in place with landowner with the necessary authority to issue parking charge notices and to pursue payment by means of litigation.   4.3 Proof of planning permission granted for signage etc under the Town and country Planning Act 1990. Lack of planning permission is a criminal offence under this Act and no contract can be formed where criminality is involved.   4.4        I also do not believe the claimant possesses these documents.   No Keeper Liability   5.1        The defendant was not the driver at the time and date mentioned in the PCN and the claimant has not established keeper liability under schedule 4 of the PoFA 2012. In this matter, the defendant puts it to the claimant to produce strict proof as to who was driving at the time.   5.2 The claimant in their Notice To Keeper also failed to comply with PoFA 2012 Schedule 4 section 9[2][f] while mentioning “the right to recover from the keeper so much of that parking charge as remains unpaid” where they did not include statement “(if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met)”.     5.3         The claimant did not mention parking period, times on the photographs are separate from the PCN and in any case are that arrival and departure times not the parking period since their times include driving to and from the parking space as a minimum and can include extra time to allow pedestrians and other vehicles to pass in front.    Protection of Freedoms Act 2012   The notice must -   (a) specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;  22. In the persuasive judgement K4GF167G - Premier Park Ltd v Mr Mathur - Horsham County Court – 5 January 2024 it was on this very point that the judge dismissed this claim.  5.4  A the PCN does not comply with the Act the Defendant as keeper is not liable.  No Breach of Contract   6.1       No breach of contract occurred because the PCN and contract provided as part of the defendant’s CPR request shows different post code, PCN shows HA4 0EY while contract shows HA4 0FY. According to PCN defendant parked on HA4 0EY which does not appear to be subject to the postcode covered by the contract.  6.2         The entrance sign does not mention anything about there being other terms inside the car park so does not offer a contract which makes it only an offer to treat,  Interest  7.1  It is unreasonable for the Claimant to delay litigation for  Double Recovery   7.2  The claim is littered with made-up charges.  7.3  As noted above, the Claimant's signs state a £60 charge yet their PCN is for £100.  7.4  As well as the £100 parking charge, the Claimant seeks recovery of an additional £70.  This is simply a poor attempt to circumvent the legal costs cap at small claims.  7.5 Since 2019, many County Courts have considered claims in excess of £100 to be an abuse of process leading to them being struck out ab initio. An example, in the Caernarfon Court in VCS v Davies, case No. FTQZ4W28 on 4th September 2019, District Judge Jones-Evans stated “Upon it being recorded that District Judge Jones- Evans has over a very significant period of time warned advocates (...) in many cases of this nature before this court that their claim for £60 is unenforceable in law and is an abuse of process and is nothing more than a poor attempt to go behind the decision of the Supreme Court v Beavis which inter alia decided that a figure of £160 as a global sum claimed in this case would be a penalty and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss and therefore unenforceable in law and if the practice continued, he would treat all cases as a claim for £160 and therefore a penalty and unenforceable in law it is hereby declared (…) the claim is struck out and declared to be wholly without merit and an abuse of process.”  7.6 In Claim Nos. F0DP806M and F0DP201T, District Judge Taylor echoed earlier General Judgment or Orders of District Judge Grand, stating ''It is ordered that the claim is struck out as an abuse of process. The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the Defendant contracted to pay. This additional charge is not recoverabl15e under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4 nor with reference to the judgment in Parking Eye v Beavis. It is an abuse of process from the Claimant to issue a knowingly inflated claim for an additional sum which it is not entitled to recover. This order has been made by the court of its own initiative without a hearing pursuant to CPR Rule 3.3(4)) of the Civil Procedure Rules 1998...''  7.7 In the persuasive case of G4QZ465V - Excel Parking Services Ltd v Wilkinson – Bradford County Court -2 July 2020 (Exhibit 4) the judge had decided that Excel had won. However, due to Excel adding on the £60 the Judge dismissed the case.  7.8        The addition of costs not previously specified on signage are also in breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015, Schedule 2, specifically paras 6, 10 and 14.   7.9        It is the Defendant’s position that the Claimant in this case has knowingly submitted inflated costs and thus the entire claim should be similarly struck out in accordance with Civil Procedure Rule 3.3(4).   In Conclusion   8.1        I invite the court to dismiss the claim.  Statement of Truth  I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.   
    • Well the difference is that in all our other cases It was Kev who was trying to entrap the motorist so sticking two fingers up to him and daring him to try court was from a position of strength. In your case, sorry, you made a mistake so you're not in the position of strength.  I've looked on Google Maps and the signs are few & far between as per Kev's MO, but there is an entrance sign saying "Pay & Display" (and you've admitted in writing that you knew you had to pay) and the signs by the payment machines do say "Sea View Car Park" (and you've admitted in writing you paid the wrong car park ... and maybe outed yourself as the driver). Something I missed in my previous post is that the LoC is only for one ticket, not two. Sorry, but it's impossible to definitively advise what to so. Personally I'd probably gamble on Kev being a serial bottler of court and reply with a snotty letter ridiculing the signage (given you mentioned the signage in your appeal) - but it is a gamble.  
    • No! What has happened is that your pix were up-to-date: 5 hours' maximum stay and £100 PCN. The lazy solicitors have sent ancient pictures: 4 hours' maximum stay and £60 PCN. Don't let on!  Let them be hoisted by their own lazy petard in the court hearing (if they don't bottle before).
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Hi, please be kind I'm new here and in a very low place.

I have been claiming about £7000 too much in childcare payments from tax credits. My daughter did attened the nursery and still does but at no where near the cost I've been claiming for about a year.I never meant it to go this far and now I'm panacking. I kep putting it off a week, then another week then months I just kept thinking I could really need the money for that and have just kept doing it.....So I called tax credits yesterday to tell them I needed to end my daughters childcare and she finished yesterday which is a lie but I needed to put an end to the mess I've got myslf into :(

I want to own up and of course repay but I'm so scared they'll prosecute, or I'll get a prison sentance or wont be able to see my kid's :( Do they ever take people children off them for this kind of thing....I'm petrified my kid's are both under 5 and are my world, they mean everything to me, I am a good mum just made a very silly decision on this matter!!

 

So I was going to say I would try to repay as much as I could, hoping familoy can help me and I can repay family rather than HMRC.

 

So if I call to confess what will happen? It all happened this tax year if that makes a difference? I've not slept all night, I look at my baby boy and burst out crying. I went on materity leave in sept and we were struggling so I never told them to change my childcare...

 

Do u think I should wait till monday and speak to CAB....will they speak and explain to tax credits for me?

 

Please help xxxx

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Ah no, i feel for you, i really do! Everyone makes mistakes and the fact that you want to put it right speaks volumes. I think speaking to CAB on monday morning and getting their advice is the best thing you can do. I'm sorry i can't advise you any further but good luck and i really hope it all works out for you. xx

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Hello there and welcome to CAG. We're not here to judge and you know what you've done. You're already suffering pretty badly right now.

 

I think you're doing the right thing and have been brave to reach this decision. It has to be the best thing.

 

You're not the only one in this position, have a read around the forum and see how other people have handled this. It's hard to say what might happen to you, but prison is a last resort. CAB seems like a good place to start and I believe they have links with the tax people. I expect they'll have dealt with this before.

 

Come back to us whenever you need help or support, we'll get you through this.

 

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Hi oak

 

Welcome to CAG

 

The first thing to do is calm down. What you need is for the situation to be managed. Clearly they will want any money that has been over claimed back, plus penalties on top. Do you qualify for Legal Aid?

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im not sure how you qualify for legal aid? we were actually entitled to have h/b and council tax credit but nevr applied as I was wrongly claiming this money....we should of got around £400 a month for both so I was even more stupid not to sot this out earlier.....what kind of penalties are there? Im just worried about being parted from my kid's......

 

thanks for all ur advise on this

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Oakly I feel so sorry for you right now :-( I dont know what the first thing is you need to do. But I do know that my ex sis in law was overpaid tax credits of about 3k, & she just had to pay it back. She actually took out a credit card to pay it back. That was the last I heard about it from the kids dad, I know nothing else happened, but how she has managed to pay the credit card back i'm not sure.

I dont know if the fact you weren't claiming housing benefit that you would have been entitled to would affect it. Might be some sort of reasoning if it got to the court stage which hopefully it would'nt.

If it's any consolation, tax credits seem to not be too bad, it's the dwp that want their pound of flesh for targets reasons. Tax seems to have taken a very back seat where the countrys debt is concerned these days.

But if you want to see if you qualify for legal aid have a look on this site. I dont know how accurate it is though, but worth a see...

http://www.communitylegaladvice.org.uk/en/legalaid/

 

Big hugs xxxxx

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How many children do you have? If you were on maternity leave and it was an older child in childcare then as you are still employed whilst on maternity leave you are still entitled to recive the help with childcare if that makes sense. You may not have been overpaid by as much as you think!

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just to update you I went to CAB on monday. I got all my figures correct for childcare and explained to them what I had done and I wanted to put it right. The cab advisor called tax credits explained everything, they said my overpayment was £5100 not £7000 and because I called off my own back and wasn investigated or prompted by them it went in my favour massivly. I am paying off half the money next week and the rest in a payment plan, I am so relieved to have come clean and put this right. I feel I can relax and enjoy my children without thinking someone might come and take them and put me behind bar's!! Anyone who is claiming too much tax credits, call now before they find you, will be so much easier for you and the overpayment will just keep mounting up if not. The lady told the cab advisor they apprechiate honesty and understand why people do it as it has been a tough few years with the recession and as tax credits ask for no paper proof it kind of is an invitation to fraud....well my name is clean and I feel a milion times better, unfortunately my bank balance wont but I'd rather it be that way, at least my bank balance doesn't have 2 children to look after and sleepless nights to deal with lol

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