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    • just to be clear here..... the DVLA do not send letters if a drivers licence address differs from any car's V5C that shows the same driver as it's registered keeper.
    • sorry she is a private individual, the cars are parking on her land. she can clamp the cars. only firms were outlawed from doing it bazza. thats what the victims of people dumping cars on their drives near airports did and they didn't not get prosecuted.    
    • The DVLA keeps two records of you. One as a driver and one for your car. If they differ you might find out in around a month when they will send you a reminder as well as to your other half for their car. If you receive nothing then you can be fairly sure that you were tailgating though wouldn't explain why they didn't pick up your car on one of drive past their cameras. However even if you do get a PCN later then your situation will not change. The current PCN does not comply with the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 Schedule 4 which is the main law that covers private parking. It doesn't comply for two reasons. 1. Section 9 [2][a] states  (2)The notice must— (a)specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates; The PCN states 47 minutes which are the arrival and departure times not the time you were actually parked. if you subtract the time you took to drive from the entrance. look for a parking place  park in it perhaps having to manoeuvre a couple of times to fit within the lines and unload the children reloading the children getting seat belts on  driving to the exit stopping for cars pedestrians on the way you may well find that the actual time you were parked was quite likely to be around ten minutes over the required time.  Motorists are allowed a MINIMUM of ten minutes Grace period [something that the rogues in the parking industry conveniently forget-the word minimum] . So it could be that you did not overstay. 2] Sectio9 [2][f]  (ii)the creditor does not know both the name of the driver and a current address for service for the driver, the creditor will (if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met) have the right to recover from the keeper so much of that amount as remains unpaid; Your PCN does not include the words in brackets and in 2a the Act included the word "must". Another fail. What those failures mean is that MET cannot transfer the liability to pay the charge from the driver to the keeper. Only the driver is now liable which is why we recommend our members not to appeal. It is so easy to reveal who was driving by saying "when I parked the car" than "when the driver parked the car".  As long as they don't know who was driving they have little chance of winning in court. This is partly because Courts do not accept that the driver and the keeper are the same person. And because anyone with a valid motor insurance policy is able to drive your cars. It is a shame that you are too far away to get photos of the car park signage. It is often poor and quite often the parking rogues lose in Court on their poor signage alone. I hope hat you can now relax and not panic about the PCN. You will receive many letters from Met, their unregulated debt collectors and sixth rate solicitors threatening you with ever higher amounts of money. The poor dears have never read the Act which states quite clearly that the maximum sum that can be charged is the amount on the signs. The Act has only been in force for 12 years so it may take a  few more years for the penny to drop.  You can safely ignore everything they send you unless or until they send you a Letter of Claim. Just come back to us if they do send one of those love letters to you and we will advise on a snotty letter to send them. In the meantime go on and enjoy your life. Continue reading other threads and if you do get any worrying letters let us know. 
    • Hopefully the ANPR cameras didn't pick up the two vehicles, but I don't think you're out of the woods just yet. MET's "work" consists of sending out hundreds of these invoices every week so yours might be a few days behind your partner's. There is also the matter of Royal Mail.  I once sold two second-hand books to someone on eBay.  Weirdly the cost of sending them separately was less than the cost of sending them in one parcel.  So to save a few bob I sent them seperately.  One turned up the next day.  One arrived after four days.  They were  sent from the same post office at the same time! But let's hope I'm being too pessimistic. Please update us of any developments.
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I am writing here on behalf of my father who has many different health conditions. My farther late last year had a full right knee replacement and uses disabled parking bays because he is still unable to bend his knee fully yet and needs to open the car door fully, this can not be done in a standard car bay at this car park. We did spend 10 - 15 minutes before parking trying to find a parking attendant to explain our point but was unable to locate one. When we arrived back at the car after about 20 / 25 minutes we have been given a ticket for £60, We wrote to this company explaining the issues who have wrote back and told us that we must now pay £100 because 14 days has passed, Can anybody help me with these people ?

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This is UKCPS the car park management company? Not the UK Coloured Pencil Society?

 

Either way, you do not have to do anything more. Ignore them. You owe them nothing and do not have to pay them, do not have to deal with them and do not have to contact them.

 

What they do, to make their sordid living, is send out frightening letters to people such as yourself to worry you into thinking you somehow owe them penalty charges. You do not. Ignore them and their letters, and read around the forum for further info on this [problem].

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Hi

 

Yes, UKCPS the car park management company. I am unsure how they got my farthers home address. Will they pass this to any type of debt collector ? how long will they try to get me to pay thismore. On the back of the ticket it says about courts ect still ignor them ?

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Hi there.

They got your father's address through the DVLA who give out RK details at around £2.50 a time. They made over £2million from it last year!

If they pass it on to a DCA dont worry-its just another part of the [problem]. You may even get up to 3-4 letters. Ignore them all and they will go away. :-)

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They will have got the address from DVLA. It's a matter of some controversy that DVLA are willing to give this info out for a fee (£10 I think), but they do!

 

Yes they will pass it to a "debt collector", which is in reality a goon sitting at the next desk, using a different type of headed paper. Then it will be passed to a "solicitor", again with a different letter head. Then in the end, they give up because they can't do anything. You must expect this - don't be scared - it's just bluff and bluster.

 

As for the note on the back about court, that's all part of the game. The idea is frighten you, and you'll pay. Don't fall for it.

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Don't be intimidated if you receive a letter from an outfit used by UKCPS calling itself "Court Proceedings Ltd.", complete with a scales of justice logo. There is nothing official about this company.They are just a two-bit debt collection agency operating out of an accommodation address in Oxford Street London, used by UKCPS as part of their ploy to try to make people pay up. Ignore them!

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Mine was in Aintree. We were parked out side Pets at Home while we loaded are shopping & when I put the boot down there was the ticket:-x We didn't even see the guy put it on even though we had been there less than 5 minutes so he must have made out the ticket while sitting in his car.

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I actually watched him one day in the Speke park! I was sitting in my car while my wife and daughter where doing a bit of shopping. Must of been there for over an hour! It holds 1850 cars yet all he did was walk around the front of the shops where the disabled bays are outside each shop! He has too time other cars, or note they have been out and back in before their allowed too. However the disabled bays are easy picking for them. As soon as they see no badge they slap a charge on it!

 

The worst part of this scenario is although protecting disabled parking bays for the disabled is a good thing, this company isn't protecting them its using them for entrapment. Many disabled people don't have a blue badge! However your Father was disabled, he parked in a disabled bay why should he be penalised?

 

You will receive a couple of letters off UKCPS then a couple off Court proceedings, [silly name] then in 99.9% of cases nothing else! Make no contact they don't know who was driving and if they believe any contract exists, it is with the driver if they can find him!:-)

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  • 4 weeks later...

yep

just a trumped up threat-o-gram

made to look official

 

ignore them!

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Hello there. Interesting terminology on this one, non payment will lead to court action. That would be interesting and very rare.

 

And it looks like a cynical attempt to look like part of HMCS, which is not a limited company.

 

My best, HB

Illegitimi non carborundum

 

 

 

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I know how tempting it is to write back to them and tell them in no uncertain terms to go and "f" themselves. However you need to bite your tongue. They're despicable scare tactics, using a mock up of the courts logo to make these documents look official. What really grates on me, is for everyone on here who recognises these swindlers for what they are, loads more probably pay up without hesitation.

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