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    • Morning, I purchased a car from Big Motoring World on 10th December 2023 for £14899.00. On the 15th December I had a problem with the auto start stop function of the car in which the car would stop in the middle of the road with a stop start error message. I called the big assist and the car was booked in for February. The BMW was with them for a week and it came back with the auto stop start feature all fine and all error codes cleared on the report from big motoring world. within 5 days I had the same issue. Warning light coming on and the car stopping. I called big assist again and the car was again booked in for an other repair in May. Car was taken back in may, they had the car for a week and returned with the report saying no issue with the auto stop start feature and blamed my driving. Within 5 days of having the car back it broke down again. This time undrivable. I had the rac pick my car up and take to Stephen James BMW for a full diagnostic. The diagnostic came back with the car needing a new fuel system as magnetic swarf was found.  I have sent big motoring world a letter stating all the issues and that under the consumer rights act 2015 I have asked for a replacement vehicle. all reports from Stephen James BMW have been sent over to big motoring world. Big motoring world have come back and said they will respond to my complaint within 14 days for the date of my complaint letter. I am not feeling confident on the response from them, what are my next steps?   Thanks in advance. 
    • That is really good is that a mistake last off "driver doesn't have a licence" I assume that should be keeper? The Court requested me to send the Court and applicant proof of my sons disability from their GP this clearly shows he has Severe Mental Impairement, he is also illiterate.  I naively assumed once the applicant received this that they would drop the claim.  It offends me that Bank has asked the Judge to throw the case out at the preliminary hearing and to make us pay up.
    • Hi, we are looking to get some opinions on weather or not to bother fighting this PCN. This comes from a very big retail park parking where there are restaurants, hotel, amongst other businesses. The parking is free but I suppose there must be a time limit on it that I am not aware of. We were in the area for around 4 hours. Makes us wonder how they deal with people staying in the hotel as the ANPR is on what appears to be a publicly maintained street (where london buses run) which leads to the different parking areas including the hotel.  1 Date of the infringement 26/05/2024 2 Date on the NTK  31/05/2024 3 Date received 07/06/2024 4 Does the NTK mention schedule 4 of The Protections of Freedoms Act 2012? [Y/N?]  YES 5 Is there any photographic evidence of the event? Entry and exit photos however, based on the photographs we are almost sure the photos are taken on public street. This is the location I believe photos are taken from.  https://maps.app.goo.gl/eii8zSmFFhVZDRpbA 6 Have you appealed? [Y/N?] post up your appeal] No Have you had a response? [Y/N?] post it up N/A 7 Who is the parking company? UKPA. UK Parking Administration LTD 8. Where exactly [carpark name and town] The Colonnades, Croydon, CR0 4RQ For either option, does it say which appeals body they operate under. British Parking Association (BPA) Thanks in advance for any assistance.  UKPA PCN The Collonades-redacted.pdf
    • Thank you for posting their WS. If we start with the actual WS made by the director one would have doubts that they had even read PoFA let alone understood it. Point 10  we only have the word of the director that the contract has been extended. I should have had the corroboration of the Client. Point 12 The Judge HHJ Simkiss was not the usual Judge on motoring cases and his decisions on the necessity of contracts did not align with PoFA. In Schedule 4 [1[ it is quite clearly spelt out- “relevant contract” means a contract (including a contract arising only when the vehicle was parked on the relevant land) between the driver and a person who is—(a)the owner or occupier of the land; or (b authorised, under or  by virtue of arrangements made by the owner or occupier of the land, to enter into a contract with the driver requiring the payment of parking charges in respect of the parking of the vehicle on the land; And the laughable piece of paper from the land owners cannot be described as a contract. I respectfully ask that the case be dismissed as there is no contract. WE do not even know what the parking regulations are which is really basic. It is respectfully asked that without a valid contract the case cannot continue. One would imagine that were there a valid contract it would have been produced.  So the contract that Bank has with the motorist must come from the landowner. Bank on their own cannot impose their own contract. How could a director of a parking company sign a Statement of Truth which included Point 11. Point 14. There is no offer of a contract at the entrance to the car park. Doubtful if it is even an offer to treat. The entrance sign sign does not comply with the IPC Code of Conduct nor is there any indication that ANPR cameras are in force. A major fault and breach of GDPR. Despite the lack of being offered a contract at the entrance [and how anyone could see what was offered by way of a contract in the car park is impossible owing to none of the signs in the WS being at all legible] payment was made for the car to park. A young person in the car made the payment. But before they did that, they helped an elderly lady to make her payment as she was having difficulty. After arranging payment for the lady the young lad made his payment right behind. Unfortunately he entered the old lady's number again rather than paying .for the car he was in. This can be confirmed by looking at the Allow List print out on page 25. The defendant's car arrived at 12.49 and at 12.51 and 12.52  there are two payments for the same vrm. This was also remarked on by the IPC adjudicator when the PCN was appealed.  So it is quite disgraceful that Bank have continued to pursue the Defendant knowing that it was a question of  entering the wrong vrm.  Point 21 The Defendant is not obliged to name the driver, they are only invited to do so under S9[2][e]. Also it is unreasonable to assume that the keeper is the driver. The Courts do not do that for good reason. The keeper in this case does not have a driving licence. Point 22. The Defendant DID make a further appeal which though it was also turned down their reply was very telling and should have led to the charge being dropped were the company not greedy and willing to pursue the Defendant regardless of the evidence they had in their own hands. Point 23 [111] it's a bit rich asking the Defendant to act justly and at proportionate cost while acting completely unjustly themselves and then adding an unlawful 70% on to the invoice. This  is despite PoFA S4[5] (5)The maximum sum which may be recovered from the keeper by virtue of the right conferred by this paragraph is the amount specified in the notice to keeper under paragraph 9[2][d].  Point 23 [1v] the Director can deny all he wants but the PCN does not comply with PoFA. S9 [2][a] states  (2)The notice must— (a)specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates; The PCN only quotes the ANPR arrival and departure times which obviously includes a fair amount of driving between the two cameras. Plus the driver and passengers are a mixture of disabled and aged persons who require more time than just a young fit single driver to exit the car and later re enter. So the ANPR times cannot be the same as the required parking period as stipulated in the ACT. Moreover in S9[2][f]  (ii)the creditor does not know both the name of the driver and a current address for service for the driver, the creditor will (if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met) have the right to recover from the keeper so much of that amount as remains unpaid; You will note that in the PCN the words in parentheses are not included but at the start of Section 9 the word "must" is included. As there are two faults in the PCN it follows that Bank cannot pursue the keeper . And as the driver does not have a driving licence their case must fail on that alone. And that is not even taking into consideration that the payment was made. Point 23 [v] your company is wrong a payment was made. very difficult to prove a cash payment two weeks later when the PCN arrives. However the evidence was in your print out for anyone to see had they actually done due diligence prior to writing to the DVLA. Indeed as the Defendant had paid there was no reasonable cause to have applied for the keeper details. Point 24 the Defendant did not breach the contract. The PCN claimed the Defendant failed to make a payment when they had made a payment.   I haven't finished yet but that is something to start with
    • You don't appeal to anyone. You haven't' received a demand from a statutory body like the council, the police or the courts. It's just a dodgy cowboy company trying it on. You simply don't pay.  In the vast majority of these cases the company deforest the Amazon with threats about how they are going to divert a drone from Ukraine and make it land on your home - but in the end they do nothing.
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I know thousands possibly millions are subject to the new rules of deciding and assessing people with disabilities capability for work. I myself am having huge problems with this and through others in a similar situation with the same or similar disabilities that there are even now people who are pushed to the brink of what any human should be able to handle who have already commited suicide! I myself am on a similar path and I'm probably not even as bad as some of the people I know. One woman I know is having the same problems only worse and needs a lifesaving operation and has to wait because, well who knows really? But she is on the verge of complaining about her treatment but is even to scared to lodge an appeal against the medical staff who are subjecting her to this living nightmare in case it affects her treatment any further.

 

I am at a point where I don't myself know where to turn, have the CAB trying to help out but because things are in such a mess they are not able to make much progress.

 

Its really far too much to explain as I have been over and over it again and again. I am wondering is there a way to legally try and change the current system as a violation of basic human rights? Where do you go, who could you ask about this?

 

I don't care what people think of me and I'm at a stage where I really do have nothing to lose!

 

My blog is at www.hypermobile.co.uk where there is information on letters of complaint I have already only recently submitted. I have also recently written to my local MP and 10 Downing Street, no reply as of yet from any of these and not sure if or when I may get one.

 

We need help now while it matters not in a year or few years down the line when even more of us have become government suicide statistics at the hands of an orwellian government system!

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Hi Cameron,

 

You'd need to firstly establish which article in the convention is breached by the current legislation - your post ins't clear in regard to what you think this may be.

 

If you are a victim of this breach, you can then raise an action for Judical Review, seeking a declaration from the Administritive Court that the public authority (in this case the DWP) has breached your Convention rights or is proposing to do so. You must commence litigation within 1 year of the breach. If there is a breach, the DWP's defence will most likely be that they had no option but to act in the manner it did because of a current Act. If this is the case, all the judge can do is issue a declaration of incompatibility. This is a statement that the court agrees that the current Act breaches convention rights and it then falls to the govenment to amend the legislation which causes the breach if they feel it is appropriate to do so - however, whether they do change it is at the discretion of the government at this point.

 

If the court states that there is no such breach, and you lose the case you would then have to apply to the Court of Appeal to appeal against the decision. If attended the Court of Appeal but remained unsuccessful with this, the next step would be an application to the Supreme Court, and if you attend Supreme Court and are unsuccessful, you would then within 6 months need to apply to the EC+HR.

 

You can find lots of information on the National Council for Civil Liberties website about human rights and about raising action.

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Thanks so much for that info! Suprisingly I can understand what you mean lol thanks for making it so easy to understand.

 

Is it possible for more than one person to submit this. Rather a collective number of people in the same situation with regards to how the new capability for work assessments are carried out? I have no legal background whatsoever but feel very strongly about this and want to do something proactive to help change this legislation.

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Combined action is possible, yes, but they all have to be "victims" of the breach or potential breach. So I for example couldn't raise an action, strongly as I may feel about it because I have never claimed ESA thus am not a "victim" of the breach. Someone who has claimed it and has had their rights breached because of the legislation which has been applied to them, can raise an action.

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Great! There are lots of people who have been and are still in this position.

 

Just one more question (not that I have it all figured out already lol) If I was to initiate this would it be in Scotland or would it have to be in England. I know Scottish Law is different but I would like this to be for people in any area in the UK. Or would it possibly have to be submitted to each area with all the "victims" belonging to their part of the country.

 

Thanks for your replies, they are appreciated greatly!

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There are so many victims of this new regime. I've had my Incapacity benefit stopped and, even if I win the appeal, I will be migrated to ESA and then lose again. At that point I'll probably apply for JSA because I couldn't face another appeal; a tougher one at that.

 

My quality of life wasn't great and now it's worse. I think about suicide and I know that many many more people will too.

 

Good luck with any case you put forward. I myself have protested to my MP and the reply was a load of false assurances about how fair it all is.

 

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Benefits rules are complex, and although I do try to inform and support people, I may get it wrong because the rules apply to individual claimants and their particular circumstances.

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The legislation for ESA is applicable throughout Scotland, England and Wales so any change in the legislation would apply to Scotland, England and Wales. If it went as far as the EC+HR the entire EU would be bound by it. (Reciprocal agreements for benefits etc).

 

The court hierachy I gave you is for England. In Scotland, our court hierachy is different. It wouldn't be the high court or the court of appeal, it would be the Court of Session, then if unsuccessful it would need to go to the supreme court in England.

 

As far as I am aware, civil litigation is commenced in the area in which the breach or injury occured, but I could be wrong with that. I'll flag this up for someone who might be able to give a more solid answer.

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I can see why you feel like giving up so many people do because this system is so degrading and not viablie!!

 

All the more reason to all get together and do something about it! I think the more people behind submitting something like this the more likely we are to get something done and just keep pushing till we get the result we want. I know I may seem overly optimistic, believe me Im not but I dont think lying down and just accepting the system is going to help either. It will just mean there will be more and more people who will actually get to the point where they do actually go through with a suicide.

 

I personally will fight till the death on this its wrong. I will keep complaining too meanwhile. I don't care if I win my own ESA appeal I will keep going because I have a daughter who has the same condition and its affecting her a lot more and a lot sooner than it did with me! I owe it at least to her to try and do something.

 

Im thinking maybe a petition on my site may be the best way to start to get others to join me in my "mad" crusade but if we can get enough people who want to raise an action together I would hope that we would have a much stronger case than just one person. I'm also wondering if its possible to get people who have lost loved ones to submit their interest on behalf of people they have lost because they have been pushed to their limits on this system.

 

I think if we just sit back and do nothing we are only going to get more and more people being pushed to those limits too! I know myself Ive been so close, only because you feel as if you are stuck in a hopeless situation with no way of getting out of it, the only thing that keeps me going is a bit of solidarity and understanding from others in the same situation.

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Ok, I've had a response after flagging the court issue up. The action does have to be raised in the area where the breach occurred. Credit to Idainfife for confirming this, she's a wee gem!

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If they find that the legislation breaches convention rights it will apply UK wide, because the legislation is UK wide.

 

However being a class action lawsuit, you may need to go about it in a different way. You could really benefit from legal advise here. You still don't say what right it is that's breached - I am curious

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I think you are right about the need for legal help! I'm going to see if I can get some from somewhere because theres no point in doing this if its not done properly. :(

 

Is there a (free) lawyer in the house.

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I'd advise you to seek advise from Liberty. Their "your rights" website has information on it, and you can download a form to ask something specific.

 

Also try the equality and human rights commision.

 

The Scottish human rights commision can point you in the right direction to legal advise, if you are in Scotland.

 

Also if you are in Scotland, try the Govan law Centre, a free legal resource which provides legal advice on many issues including Social Welfare which ESA falls within. (Scottish charity no. SCO30193).

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Thanks I was thinking of contacting Govan Law Centre and I think I will take a few hours out of all my web stuff tonight and have a good read of all of these links! I know a lawyer who represented me against a case for food poisoning with Asda a few years ago and I had also contacted him since then and have been passed a contact for another lawyer when he couldnt help himself so I'm optomistic about that and he is usually really good at getting back to you fast so I have contacted him too!

 

Right better go get myself a coffee and drink some energy drink and get ready for a long reading session.

 

I found a great link via someone on FB regarding Atos. Is it ok for me to post it? Its a wordpress blog about Atos and is a good read, great information.

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lol. Links, particularly about ATOS and DWP can be very dodgy. Depends really on what the content is as to whether it can be linked to from CAG (We must always protect CAG interests and our members). Post it and I'll check it out. Shouldn't take me long, a few minutes. If it's not ok though, I will have to remove it. If it's fine, it'll be approved, if not I'll let you know why.

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i think job centre plus are in breach of human rights',they involve private companies' to circumvent this to do the heavy work on customers',however what i have witnessed by treatment of others is humiliating and degrading treatment,they have a problem dealing with reality that everyone but them and their overseers are to blame for todays events not the sick/disabled and the long term unemployed.

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Yep, it's someone posting about their experiences that others can share in, and a good sounding board, it's absolutely fine, and I'm sure others will enjoy reading it.

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I'm sure you've viewed the HRA Cameron, but for those who don't and whom are thinking of raising an action, it's available here

 

Keep us posted on this one, Cameron let us know how you get on.

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Im with you, any help I can give. I think once the migation starts then a lot more people are going to be left vunerable. I myself have been on IB for past 8 years and have a review next year. I have bipolar and have been exteremly fearful for months and yes i too have felt pushed into a dark place with the anxiety and fear

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I know thousands possibly millions are subject to the new rules of deciding and assessing people with disabilities capability for work. I myself am having huge problems with this and through others in a similar situation with the same or similar disabilities that there are even now people who are pushed to the brink of what any human should be able to handle who have already commited suicide! I myself am on a similar path and I'm probably not even as bad as some of the people I know. One woman I know is having the same problems only worse and needs a lifesaving operation and has to wait because, well who knows really? But she is on the verge of complaining about her treatment but is even to scared to lodge an appeal against the medical staff who are subjecting her to this living nightmare in case it affects her treatment any further.

 

Your post is a breath of fresh air for I have thought the same things about violation of human rights like thousands I was fobbed off and failed both ESA and DLA and they've even took me off my benefit and put me on JSA without even notify me they have recently put me back on Income Support under ill health took 5 years for them to accept illness which has been in their computer since I had to give up work they accept their mistake but as soon as I receive my premium payment a letter came about filling in an IB50 form which I will send next week needless to say I wil be back of JSA without the premium but this time round I will fight I was too ill last time but this has given me a new strength to face the medical people you either sink or swim I chose to swim and no one is going to denied my illness I have been working for 27 years previous to being ill and pay my taxes so I expect them to show me some respect as a human being and not fobbing off my health and rights. Cameron showing off his new baby yesterday as if he is a caring person how many babies was born same time as his and many would suffer poverty with benefits cuts. I tell you something will give that's just the tip of the iceburg it is always the poor and vulnerable that suffer and we need to be educatede to stick together and challenge the two clowns.

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jsa is not the right benefit for those that have health problems/disabilities',you are expected to be job ready however this is often not the case,as well as jobseekers laws and the dealing with the job centre fortnightly this all takes its toll unfortunately.

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