Bus Lane PCN letter error... what to do

[Unhapppy Daddy]

Hi all...

 

Well a big thank you for starters as I totally ignored a pcn from UKPC what ever their money grabbin name is... and nothing happened!

However I went down to the station to drop someone off and went down the wrong way ( a bus lane ) and the council have sent me 2 PCNs one for entering the wrong way and one for exiting the wrong way... Great...

Anywho I appealed to the Council to let me off one of the PCNs - which to my surprise they did, however on the other PCN they rejected the appeal but in the actuall letter they state and I quote...

HTe area around the station entrance is clearly marked as a bus lane. There are signs on all approaches to the bus lane that access is only for bus taxix and cycles. Access to the drop off point is made via either Tudor Road or Greyfriars Road, when exiting the drop off motorists must turn right. Other vehicle must follow the directional signs. It is the motorists responsibility to abide by the signs when driving. I can therefore find no justification to cancel the above PCN -(this is for a PCN ending 52 as per the letter ref). However, discretion has been used to cancel PCN (same PCN number as one in this letters ref) on this occasion only and does not set a precedent for any future PCNs that may be issued.

 

Now later on in the letter the following is stated...

 

Your representation has been considered by this office in accordance with the requirement of the bus lane contraventions (Penalty Charges, Adjudication and Enforcement)(England) Regulatoins 2005, but after full consideration of the representations made and all other circumstances relating to the issue of PCN, I have to advise you that grounds for representation agains the PCN have not been establishied.

 

Now I called the council and they advised I should appeal as there is obviously a typing mistake in this rejection letter... Does this mean they should let me off, should I not appeal and let the council take me to court?

Or can someone here give me an idea on how I should word my appeal so that it gives the council no other way than to let me off completely...

I do know I was in the wrong and I did advise the council I was not sure how to get to the drop off point other than via the bus lane... which is about 10-20mtrs long... so I guess they did take pitty on me and let me off on one of the PCNs - SO perhaps I should not push my luck??

 

let us know what you think

[sailor sam]

Need more info; pics or exact location so we can check street view for markings/signage ect.

 

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[Unhapppy Daddy]

Sinage is there, just I did not know how to get around to the station, I explained this to the council and I think thats why they let me off on one of the tickets.

However my question here is if I can get away with not paying the second as they initially state that they will not let me off but then a bit later they state that they do (although I think this is a clerical error and they mean the other ticket they issued) however as I have it in writing can I dispute the ticket/ or force the council to cancel it??

[sailor sam]

Someones going to ask so it may as well be me; why did you not comply to a 'clearly marked' bus lane in the first place? Unless there are any problems with the PCN(s) or signage ect, how can you expect to dispute this?

 

The only thing I can think of is that they have issued one ticket in error (duplicted the first) which is why they have 'let you off'. I can't see how you expect them to cancel the other one unless there are any errors as I mentioned above.

 

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[Unhapppy Daddy]

Reason I went the way I did was because I did not know how to get to the pickup point other than using the bus route to get to the pickup point and leave again. I did explain this to the council and because of this I believe they dropped one of the PCNs. They sent me a letter stating that they accepted one appeal for entering the station but for the pcn they sent me for leaving the station via the bus route they state initially that they reject it but then later in the pcn they state they let me off.... after having spoken to the council they advise that this was a clerical error as they were dealing with 2 tickets of mine and got the ticket numbers on the rejection letter mixed up...

[green_and_mean]

Reason I went the way I did was because I did not know how to get to the pickup point other than using the bus route to get to the pickup point and leave again.

 

Walking may have been one alternative?

[Unhapppy Daddy]

Walking may have been one alternative?

 

commedian... like it, guess this site aint what i thought it might be, shamw as for the private parking company pcn it actually came in handy...

will stop recommending this site

[green_and_mean]

commedian... like it, guess this site aint what i thought it might be, shamw as for the private parking company pcn it actually came in handy...

will stop recommending this site

 

It wasn't mean't to be funny it was a practical solution on to how to reach the station without using the bus lane because you said you couldn't work out how to do it, if I was after a laugh I would have said get the bus, lol.

[Unhapppy Daddy]

hm.. still the info given is as good as a chocolate fire guard....

I have appealed against the ticket as they contradict themselves in it.

will see what happens... Im pretty much getting ready to pay the £30 just want them to work for it.

As for walking being practical... well it would'nt have been as there was quite a bit of luggage to be dragged halfway around town to get to the station... so kinda smart comment but not really!

[dx100uk]

pers i would consider myself lucky that i got one cancelled

 

in your own words, you did enter a bus lane, so thus did sadly contravene a regulation.

 

your failure to be able to navigate your car properly and read signage is your problem, CAG is here to right comsumer wrongs, not assist people to avoid just deserves

 

dx

[lamma]

they had to cancel one otherwise they would be doubling up for the same alleged contravention.

[green_and_mean]

they had to cancel one otherwise they would be doubling up for the same alleged contravention.

 

Not really if he drove one way went in the station and then drove back the other way its probably two different contraventions.

[Unhapppy Daddy]

Well the news is I was let off due to a clerical error! so just goes to show if you stand your ground - even if you were in the wrong - you can get let off... saved a total of £120.

[dragonkeeper]

hi all

 

Mean_and_Green

 

me thinks you should change you handle to

 

Fluffy_and_Orange

 

people might stop picking on you. lol

 

carry on your good work M n G

 

regards

 

dk

 

p.s. I hope you see the implied joke?? :)

[green_and_mean]

hi all

 

Mean_and_Green

 

me thinks you should change you handle to

 

Fluffy_and_Orange

 

people might stop picking on you. lol

 

carry on your good work M n G

 

regards

 

dk

 

p.s. I hope you see the implied joke?? :)

 

I think I might go pink.....I don't really like orange.