Undettered,unrepentant,un detained Vance Miller?

[DizzieDiva2010]

Hi I am new to the Consumer Action Group.

 

I had a kitchen supplied this year from " Simply Kitchens " it is faulty, damaged, with missing parts & the customer service along with the entire company attitude is Appauling.

 

A little too late but having researched this matter & reporting it to Trading Standards I believe this to be the Company of the Rogue Trader Mr Vance Miller in Oldham who has appeared on Watchdog in the past?

 

I am still waiting for my kitchen to be completed after 5 weeks! Im interested in anybody who has had a similar experience and any advise with regards to taking this matter to the Small Claims Court.

[maroondevo52]

Hello and Welcome, DizzieDiva2010.

 

I'll move this thread to a more appropriate Forum.

 

Regards.

 

Scott.

[DizzieDiva2010]

Any advise please with regards to this matter?

Edited April 12, 2010 by DizzieDiva2010
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[Conniff]

You should contact them by recorded delivery letter asking when the kitchen will be completed to your satisfaction and then decide what to do dependent on the reply.

Don't let it drag out, get it done now.

[DizzieDiva2010]

Hi. I sent a letter on the 23rd March 2010 stating that " The Supply of Goods & Services Act 1982 " requires goods to be delivered free from faults, as described, of satisfactory quality & fit for purpose. Then I explained the problems. I am now on my 2nd letter threatening court action, advise from Trading Standards. Im asking anybody who has had dealings with this Man to come forward with their experience & what action they took, if any. He has traded under Kitchens Direct, Maple Kitchens, Rock Solid Kitchens & now Simply Kitchens ! I have read many of unhappy consumer comments since on the web & still this man is allowed to trade and con people out of their money !!

[Conniff]

Which is why you need to get in fast before he liquidates this company and you have no claim.

 

You could become rich on the backs of others. His website says "Sign up to the monthly newsletter and recieve top business tips and advice from Vance Miller on how to conduct business "

 

So it sounds as if he also runs a school on how to con people.

[DizzieDiva2010]

Understood, thanks. I think I will make an appointment also to CAB. I think he trade's under a new name every 6 months.

 

CONSUMERS BEWARE OF BUYING KITCHENS ON THE INTERNET VANCE MILLER IS STILL TRADING UNDER DIFFERENT NAMES

[DizzieDiva2010]

I dont know if you have read all, but if you google Vance Miller there is alot of information about him. He has infact been getting away with conning people for years and nobody has managed to permantely close him down and remove all his assets & profit, of which he has made out of comsumers sorrow having sold them faulty kitchens.

 

Im going to write to my local MP, as it appears trading standards are not that concerned.

 

Please come forward if you are a victim of VANCE MILLER, we should all stick together & close him down.

[buzby]

Trading standards are not your friend. They will offer advice or write a letter or two, but will only refer notable complaints to a central database. Consumer Champions, they hare not, and never have been.

[dx100uk]

if you look around this guy is VERY well known for all this.

had several spots on watchdog etc

there is one trading standards div that deals with him.

just remember seeing the name recently.

 

dx

[GuidoT]

TS = Ineffective and pointless.

[Kraken1]

News item - Trading Standards Institute

 

BBC News - Oldham Council to appeal Vance Miller kitchen case cost

 

Boss backs botched Vance Miller case - Manchester Evening News

 

Not sure we can criticise trading standards for not trying in this instance. Perhaps they tried too hard? Personally, with chaps like this i'd like more trading standards chaps to be "over-zealous, [and] oppressive''

 

The problem of course is that after a slapping like this from the courts other trading standards departments might be less willing to stick their neck out. Maybe CAG should write a letter of support to the officer involved?

[DizzieDiva2010]

Thank you for all your replys. Im off to my local CAB and advise centre today, il see how i get on there.

 

I know now that Vance Miller has been on watchdog, only i dont watch it, i never watch television, im normally too busy. I live in Bristol and down here iv not heard of him before, plus my local MFI went into liquidation and thats the selling point they used, telling me it was MFI liquidated stock.

 

A friend of mine, her friends local to myself had the same problem as me going back 6 months ago, but he was then named Rock Solid Kitchens. It appears that he is well known up North but not in the South West. How can i legally help consumers be aware of this man ?

[dx100uk]

christ

still using that old excuse

 

was pulling that one 10yrs ago!!

 

just ask Dom on his bike!

 

dx

[DizzieDiva2010]

Question; when making a claim ie for the above issue can a claim for interest be added on the particulars????

[buzby]

Yes, Interest from date of Judgement.... put it in your PoC.

[DizzieDiva2010]

Yes, Interest from date of Judgement.... put it in your PoC.

 

At the suggested rate of? maybe 8%?

Im claiming £1500 for the supply of the kitchen and £1500 for the costs of the fitters.

As i am claiming for the cost of the fitters, and will include a statement from them, does this mean that the fitters have to appear in court as witness's or not?

 

 

KR

 

DizzieDiva

[buzby]

You can only charge a rate approved by your court, I believe it is 8%. The fitters are not party to the action, you are providing their INvoice as evidence of the costs you are being required to pay, so no - they do not need to appear in court, only if the invoice is challenged by the defender.

[DizzieDiva2010]

You can only charge a rate approved by your court, I believe it is 8%. The fitters are not party to the action, you are providing their INvoice as evidence of the costs you are being required to pay, so no - they do not need to appear in court, only if the invoice is challenged by the defender.

 

 

Hey thanks for the info, you've been a great help.

[DizzieDiva2010]

On the N1 claim form i should really name the defendant as Mr Lee Darby as this is the name on the invoice for the proprietor, but infact the proprietor is Mr Vance Miller!!!

 

Can i put both names or is that unacceptable in a court of law?

[buzby]

If you bought from a company, then ONLY the company can be named on the N1, as a limited company it is a legal entity in its own right. If it is a partnership or suimply 'Ace Kitchens' then you name the persons responsible.

[DizzieDiva2010]

I have an invoice company name Simply Kitchens, proprietor Mr Lee Darby.

[buzby]

Good, not Limited then. In that case you name the Proprietor, you can usefully name the other person as an 'interested party'.

[DizzieDiva2010]

Good, not Limited then. In that case you name the Proprietor, you can usefully name the other person as an 'interested party'.

 

Cool...then that's completed and in the post. My house is in bad repair and I was trying to get it up together a little bit thinking of putting it on the market in order to be debt free but it's been a downward spiral and disastrous.

 

Thankyou

[ndawson]

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