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Hi there bit of background:

 

My girlfriend has acquired 4 parking tickets from the council and the police on her car, they are outstanding over 8 months she thinks.

 

since then she has moved house and not updated her DVLA for the car, this has meant any reminders have been sent to the wrong address.

 

She is due for Road tax in the next month, so updating the DVLA will mean reminders for the outstanding tickets will be sent to her new address.

 

The problem here is that the parking tickets will no doubt by this point (8months on) be worth more than the car.

 

so what i want to know is, can she scrap her car and if so will she still be liable?

 

can she sell the car to me, i update the log book with my adress, the reminders will then still be going to her old adress until the beggars sod off?

 

is any of the above legit?

 

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Non of the above is 'legit'. Why did your girfriend either appeal the tickets or pay them? For a start, you are obliged to advise the DVLA of any change of address. As Lamma states; she will still be liable if she scraps the car because again, the DVLA will need to be informed. FPNs will not be written off and eventually a warrant will be issued because they will become court matters after 28 days.

 

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balls, ah well looks like she'll have to stump up either way - I really don't know why she never sorted them out asap.

 

She had a whole bunch of paid ones in a folder (she used to get about 3 a month when she was at her city centre flat) but there was 2 without receipt/ref numbers for payment, which is why I assumed they where outstanding.

 

plus there's a letter from a company that says they are collecting the money, but the ref number matches no ticket I currently have, so that may be lost.

 

so onwards and upwards, i'll get her to change the DVLA to her new address, they will probably send something round for the parking ticket.

 

Does anybody know how much they are allowed to charge or is it anything they want these days?

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At this point all of the Local Authority tickets will be past NTO stage which means they will each be worth at least the full value of the penalty plus 50%, correct me if I am wrong guys?

 

Do the maths, say they are each £70, plus 50% will take them to £105 each. That is £420 alone, before we even factor in the bailiff costs (you mentioned that a company was trying to recover this money owed to the LA).

 

LA tickets are issued under civil law; however, I think FPN's are issued under criminal law so I don't think you will be able to evade the Police forever even if you could give the LA the slip.

 

I must say, your gf must have some money to keep coughing up for all these parking tickets?! I think I'd rather have a push bike lol.

 

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Yeah defo they need paying,

 

I'm going to change the DVLA over to her new address, wait fro the letters to arrive then send them a letter stating i want all evidence sent back, as in proof of ticket, pictures etc to prove they are her tickets, because there's at least one or maybe 2 i don't have tickets for.

 

do you think it's worth it or just get in touch with the local authority & police and pay them direct?

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You cannot change the adress of the registered keeper. Only THEY can do that.

 

The tickets are not yours. They are not even for your car. All you can do is send the unopened letter back to the ticket issuer with a covering letter giving her correct address.

 

They cannot touch you, YOUR car or your posessions as this has nothing to do with you.

 

She can scrap the car, keep the car, eat the car or anything else she likes.

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You cannot change the adress of the registered keeper. Only THEY can do that.

 

The tickets are not yours. They are not even for your car. All you can do is send the unopened letter back to the ticket issuer with a covering letter giving her correct address.

 

They cannot touch you, YOUR car or your posessions as this has nothing to do with you.

 

She can scrap the car, keep the car, eat the car or anything else she likes.

 

I think the OP is asking advice on behalf of his girlfriend so im sure he is aware of this!

 

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Gawd, there is always one that has to have a little pop isn't there?

 

If the OP knew all this, why is the thread titled Re: 4 parking tickets - can I scrap/sell the car??

 

No, they cannot sell the car as it isn't theirs. No they cannot scrap either it as it isn't theirs. They cannot update the V5c, ......as it isn't theirs.

 

This is exactly why people just don't bother replying to threads.

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Gawd, there is always one that has to have a little pop isn't there?

 

If the OP knew all this, why is the thread titled Re: 4 parking tickets - can I scrap/sell the car??

 

No, they cannot sell the car as it isn't theirs. No they cannot scrap either it as it isn't theirs. They cannot update the V5c, ......as it isn't theirs.

 

This is exactly why people just don't bother replying to threads.

 

Can I have a pint of what ever you've been drinking please?

 

I would hazzard a guess that the car belongs to the OPs girlfriend so how can you say 'it isn't theirs'?

 

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Can I have a pint of what ever you've been drinking please?

 

I would hazzard a guess that the car belongs to the OPs girlfriend so how can you say 'it isn't theirs'?

 

 

I don't drink, so that is something else you have got wrong then isn't it?

 

You can 'hazzard a guess' all you like. My wifes underwear doesn't belong to me, my car doesn't belong to my wife, this car does NOT belong to the OP and thus by the incredibly complicated and apparently difficult process of common sense and deduction, IT DOES NOT BELONG TO THE OP.

 

She can do anything she likes with the car, he cannot as it isn't his. If he becomes the new owner then he can do what he likes with it. Until that point he cannot.

 

Now, I may be wrong, but I am guessing that we won't see you on Egg heads in the near future, will we?

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If the OP knew all this, why is the thread titled Re: 4 parking tickets - can I scrap/sell the car??

 

No, they cannot sell the car as it isn't theirs. No they cannot scrap either it as it isn't theirs. They cannot update the V5c, ......as it isn't theirs.

 

This is exactly why people just don't bother replying to threads.

 

It is not unusual for people to talk about themselves and their partner in the 1st person, i.e. as "I".

 

Most of us would be happy to say "I" have a mortgage when we mean "We", I will claim "I" have a television licence, but it is in fact in my wife's name. etc etc.

 

I fail to see what CK is getting so uptight about over the OPs use of phrases when his relationship to the vehicle owner seems so clear.

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i have now bought the car

 

i have the "new owner slip in my hand"

 

I wouldn't have bothered doing that if you both live in the same house. All mail regarding the car would have still come to the correct address and should a speeding offence or the likes occur then the the RK is legally required to name the driver, which I would presume could still be either of you if you are both named on the insurance.

 

What this transfer will do is add a further, unnecessary, "previous owner" to the V5 which might or might not be significant. It's already had lots of owners then who cares, but if your GF was the owner from new or close, then you may have made a significant change to the number of former keepers.

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It is not unusual for people to talk about themselves and their partner in the 1st person, i.e. as "I".

 

Most of us would be happy to say "I" have a mortgage when we mean "We", I will claim "I" have a television licence, but it is in fact in my wife's name. etc etc.

 

I fail to see what CK is getting so uptight about over the OPs use of phrases when his relationship to the vehicle owner seems so clear.

 

Phew! Thank you Crem! Glad to see someone else understood in what capacity the OP was asking the questions!

 

To Skatepunkdog; I don't think buy buying the car you will get your GF out of sorting the parking tickets out... especially any FPNs.

 

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I don't drink, so that is something else you have got wrong then isn't it?

 

You can 'hazzard a guess' all you like. My wifes underwear doesn't belong to me, my car doesn't belong to my wife, this car does NOT belong to the OP and thus by the incredibly complicated and apparently difficult process of common sense and deduction, IT DOES NOT BELONG TO THE OP.

 

She can do anything she likes with the car, he cannot as it isn't his. If he becomes the new owner then he can do what he likes with it. Until that point he cannot.

 

Now, I may be wrong, but I am guessing that we won't see you on Egg heads in the near future, will we?

 

Well that makes 2 of us then. Can I say that you certainly have the most appropiate name from the way you have posted on this thread.

 

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Sorry to drag up an old thread but I am seeking similar advice.

I have 3 parking fines outstanding and have appealed 2 of them 2 weeks ago but havent heard anything back yet. The thing is I am about to emigrate to Canada and the car is going to be scrapped as is old and on it's last legs. I'm seriously thinking of just scrapping it and forgetting about it. The car is registered to my previous address where my old housemates have moved on so won't be forwarding. I don't want a criminal record for not paying fines. Should I email them to ask about my appeals ? Very tempted to just go.

 

Well that makes 2 of us then. Can I say that you certainly have the most appropiate name from the way you have posted on this thread.

 

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Sorry to drag up an old thread but I am seeking similar advice.

I have 3 parking fines outstanding and have appealed 2 of them 2 weeks ago but havent heard anything back yet. The thing is I am about to emigrate to Canada and the car is going to be scrapped as is old and on it's last legs. I'm seriously thinking of just scrapping it and forgetting about it. The car is registered to my previous address where my old housemates have moved on so won't be forwarding. I don't want a criminal record for not paying fines. Should I email them to ask about my appeals ? Very tempted to just go.

 

 

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