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    • hi all, i will list my curmcumstance first then list the details of the penalty charge - we are 2 diabled people being affected by the cost of living crisis and are skint etc. i am disabled with mobility issues(arthritis in knees and ankles and gout) and cant operate car pedals anymore so i let a friend up the road use my car in exchange for her driving me about. its a good arrangement as i get a 'chauffer' and she gets the use of car. the car is parked in her drive which is better as i was refused a disabled space (even on appeal) and too much congestion to park the car outside my house. my friend is vulnerable as she has suffered depression and suicidal thoughts since the loss of her mother a few years back, she is dyslexic, she is a carer for one of her sons that is disabled due to mental illness and mobility. she lives in a council house and cannot work. we went to iceland ..attracted by the 10items for £10 offer - we've never been there before. a large artic lorry was parked accross the car park blocking the view of one of the parking signs and blocking the disabled bays where the pay&display machine is. by the time she helped me out of the car and then went to see if it was pay&display then came back to me at the car she said she thinks it was pay even for disabled, so we looked for change in the car which we didnt have (she normally goes asda which dont need to pay for parking)so then we said we'd either go get change or go to asda...so then by the time it took her to help me back in and get out the car park took 15 minutes...5 minutes overstay past the 10minutes grace. the letter from excel parking came through and i sent it back giving her name as driver (before i saw on here that you shouldnt name the driver) then i appealed explaining what happened (lorry blocking etc) and even said we were being descriminated (advised by citizen advice)as we are disabled and 15minutes is not long enough for a crippled disabled man and a woman with dyslexia to read and understandd the sign and get out, then back in the car and look for change then get out the car park in 15minutes. i even explained she was a vulnerable person on anti-depressants and even sent a photo of medication and said if you need a doctors note then let me know....the appeal was rejected. i've emailed iceland over 50 times and they just wont tell excel to cancel this charge - they are ignorant and ive even asked them why they have a webpage saying 'iceland combatting the cost of living crisis' pretending to help their customers and they wont comment...they'd rather put more stress and anxiety on an already suicidal vulnerable person just to get money out of them..so their 'help' during this crisis is a lie as it wont even extend to disabled customers. she has now received 2 letters from DCBL saying she owes £170 for 5minutes of overstay. the last one is a final demand. as she cant read or write very well ive sent a recorded letter to DCBL (as advised by citizen advice) asking not to attend the property due to a vulnerable woman inside the property as it will only exasperate the situation, they have ignored it and basically said we dont care, you still owe. could anyone please advise - we are not very good with letters or these situations and are slow on the uptake.   1 The date of infringement? 28th dec 2023   2 Have you yet appealed to the parking company yet? [Y/N?] yes   If you have then please post up whatever you sent and how you sent it and the date you sent it, suitably redacted. [as a PDF- follow the upload guide]cant do that - will have to get my son to do it when he visits   Has there been a response? yes   Please AS A PDF FILE  ONLY ..post it up as well, suitably redacted. - follow the upload guide]cant do that - will have to get my son to do it when he visits   If you haven't appealed yet - .........DONT ! seek advice on your topic first.   Have you received a Notice To Keeper? (NTK) [must be received by you between 29-56 days] yes   What date is on it? 15th january 2024   Did the NTK provide photographic evidence? yes   [scan up BOTHSIDES to ONE PDF of the PCN and your NTK - follow the upload guide] please LEAVE IN LOCATION AND ALL DATES/TIMES/£'scant do that - will have to get my son to do it when he visits   3 Did the NTK mention Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 (PoFA) [Y/N?] not on the front - maybe on the back but cannot find the letter now   4 If you appealed after receiving the NTK, did the parking company give you any information regarding the further appeals process? [it is well known that parking companies will reject any appeal whatever the circumstances] yes   5 Who is the parking company? excel   6. Where exactly [Carpark name and town] did you park? gravesend in iceland    
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good morning Bankfodder.

 

My claim will not be under five thousand, so that removes the small claim application

 

The money claimed are

 

1. Value of the car taken.

 

2.Cost of new engine and money spent on car.in the 6 month up to them taking lot.

 

3. Taxi fare for getting to appointments (work) and to shops etc

 

4.Money to put a replacement car on the road and the hire of car. this is an on going bill. The hire will stop on the day that I have replaced my car.

 

The total to date is around £1300 This figure has to be left open because of the hire cost.

 

I would put my claim as a fast track case because it is not a fixed cost.

 

The I would ask courts for compensation for destress.

 

Does the fact that it is a fast track application change any of the details sett out in the small claims guide please advice

 

Thanks

 

The amount claimed

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Hi Guys,

 

I have a very important question that could affect many court applications.

Has anyone gained judgment after their car has been sold. Have LBL paid the money owed.

 

Please can anyone find this out. But it has to be a recent hearing.

Im looking to see if they have the means to pay.

Hpow would I find out if they have got money.

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Sorry for second post here but this is important I need to no if I win will I be paid.

Has anyone recently had cost awarded and did they pay the costs

 

i am also in court soon with lbl. but my solicitor has spoken to a guy in london who won but to date has had nothing. as far as lbl they keep changing names and never pay anything. this info may also help you in court. here are some company house reg numbers. all of which belong to lbl.

Company No. 04286387

Company No. 04152421

Company No. 03636230

Company No. 05043147

Company No. 04987334

 

this has got to be the biggest fraud company ever. why are they allowed to trade.

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Hi SITE TEAM,

 

We have a big problem that till now has not been looked into. We are all concerned about getting some form of Judgment on LBL.

Brill if we do but how do we enforce this to get our money back.

We need some serious advice on what can be done

No good having Judgment if its worth nothing

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High all victims it's important that any judgment order includes ALL of their companies ........ including certain named individuals & addresses.

 

Those already in court should advise their legal reps of this asap

 

Don't assume that because their paperwork names certain individuals it's correct it may not be ;)

 

I'm (or rather someone else is:D) organizing a list which I'll let everyone have very soon

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Hi Guys,

 

Can any body please point me in the right direction for making a claim under restituional damages from my unlawful bank charges.

I have already asked the FOS they seem to not have any form of understanding of this at all.

They seem to think that its to do with the interest on the charges.

Is the any letter that has already been formed to do the request.

 

many thanks

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Hi guys

 

Can any one help me,

 

I am trying to find case I can use to make ref to with my claim for compensation against LBL for not just the cost of the car but the money spent on the car ie engine Alloys stereo sub amp body work done basically things I had spent on car but not had the opportunity to enjoy.

I have to get the claim ref right or I will not get the correct claim amount.

 

Thanks.

 

We have the Trail date first week January. I cant wait

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Hi Nicky,

Why do you need another case to refer too, you have receipts for expenditure spent on car, no?

 

In any event, if they have in mind to settle, and they generally don't until they are forced to, generally by cost implications, or an impactive judgment that would make a precedent ruling opening the floodgates for others.

 

They will simply obtain a CAP valuation, giving them the retail valuation of your make and model of vehicle, trade and disposal values of vehicles with a similar mileage and base any offering on that.

They will quote you " As you may be aware CAP is used as the industry benchmark for used car disposal values and provides the latest used car market values drawn from analysis of recent disposals data, including approximately 1.5 million transactions per year from all sectors of the motor industry.They may or may not accept some additional value for the other works done on the car and make a commercial offering.

 

You will than decide if you want to accept or decline.

 

Any evidence that shows real material loss, or expenditure spent like taxi fare receipts, or any other necessary expenditure laid out as a consequence of being without vehicle, will substantiate any claim on your behalf.

 

Don't forget, once a car was purchased by yourself, you personally, would have mitigated any further loss etc.

 

So gather all supporting evidence and present it to them with an offer for them to be commercial and settle.

 

Otherwise, this could drag on, only for the judge to direct that you both have further time to settle or he will penalise either or both parties for being obstructive.

 

Again, just my penny's worth with the usual caveats.

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