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    • Well we can't predict what the judge will believe. PE will say that they responded in the deadline and you will say they don't. Nobody can tell what a random DJ will decide. However if you go for an OOC settlement you should still be able to get some money
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Apparently if they haven't been liquidated you could prevent it through Companies house,

Spoke to Companies House and they said this firm have not yet gone into liquidation but are in the process of so doing. They told me to send them (CH) an e-mail with the circumstances of our dealings with this company and opposing the liquidation, which we did. Got an e-mail back saying that CH have blocked any liquidatin for 6 months so we can pursue the debt.

 

Didn't know you could do that. But the way is open for us to try and get the money back before they go into liquidation.

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ok, the latest msg from companies house is below:

 

Dear Mr ....

 

Thank you for your email to this office, dated 15 April 2010, with reference to the above.

 

Please note, that as stated in my colleague, Mr Horsley's email of 3 March 2010, it is the policy of Companies Investigation Branch that, in order for the investigative process to be effective, it is essential to maintain confidentiality at all stages. We cannot enter into public debate on the merits of complaints, and we do not confirm or deny whether an investigation of a particular company is taking, or has taken place - this includes via correspondence with yourself, as the complainant.

 

I am sorry I cannot be of further assistance in this matter.

 

Yours sincerely

 

Richard Jeffers

Intelligence & Liaison Officer

 

 

The latest msg from ipswich police is:

 

....., sorry about the delay I've been away. Basically Kubic did carry out work as a claims management. Client files were sent to legal agencies who obtained affidavits from the clients and entered into correspondence with the lenders and some were referred to a solicitor. Some clients had there debts reduced or written off. Due to a change in the law it became more difficult to make debts unenforceable and due to the fact that lenders dragged their feet it did take months to sort out. When the complaints came in I spoke to the Ministry of Justice who regulate the industry because from the enquiries I had made and after consultation with the Crown Prosecution Service it was clear that the regulators should take this on as the burden of proof to obtain a criminal conviction is so high and it was clear that we would not reach that high standard.

I do appreciate that a lot of people have lost money and the only way forward for you all is to take out a joint action against Kubic.

Regards,

KJ

 

 

SO... we need to find out more information about a Joint action?

 

What is it?

Does it cost?

Rate of success?

Would we get money owed back?

 

Please can you all research this.. and write your findings.

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You would need to take advice from a solicitor who is experienced in this type of action, google solicitors for joint action, I don't know any. You would need a number of you to agree this would cut costs as the more involved the less each has to pay. I don't know if this will work and unfortunately I cannot give legal advice.

Regards

KJ

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I think someone needs to speak to a solicitor in a free consulation... briefly explain the case and see what they say..

 

if they they think we can recover the money... then see how much it would cost us each?

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Looking at recent decisions by the Solicitors' Disciplinary Tribunal, I came across some interesting information that I thought I'd share:

 

On 2 February 2010, the Solicitors Disciplinary Tribunal made an Order in respect of one Geoffrey Lloyd, against whom an allegation of dishonesty was proved, and he was also found liable for costs.

 

Geoffrey Lloyd was a solicitor's clerk, and a partner in a LLP called Swansea Legal Services which took over another solicitor's practice (PJ Williams).

 

What has all this to do with Tate-Lloyd, you may ask. Well, PJ Williams address was 53 Mansel Street, Swansea - the same as Tate-Lloyd!

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Company Profile Report (CPR)

 

Commercial Debt Management

Company Name: TATE-LLOYD LEGAL SERVICES LLP

 

Print Report

 

 

Previous Name(s): NO PREVIOUS NAME HAS BEEN RECORDED DURING THE LAST 20 YEARS

 

Registered Number: OC343569

 

Registered Office: CORNER CHAMBERS

53 MANSEL STREET

SWANSEA

SA1 5TE

 

Incorporation Date: 24/02/2009

 

Country Of Origin: United Kingdom

Company Type: Limited Liability Partnership

 

Accounting Reference Date: 28/02

Last Accounts Made Up To:

Next Accounts Due: 24/11/2010

 

Last Annual Return:

Next Annual Return Due: 24/03/2010 (Overdue)

 

Company Status: Active - Proposal to Strike off

Type of Accounts: NO ACCOUNTS FILED Accounts

 

Nature Of Business: None Supplied

 

 

Filing History

 

 

04/05/2010 FIRST GAZETTE

20/04/2009 MEMBER RESIGNED GEOFFREY LLOYD

24/02/2009 INCORPORATION DOCUMENT

CERTIFICATE OF INCORPORATION

 

 

Mortgage Data

NONE

 

 

 

 

Report Generated 01/06/2010

©2007 Credit UK Ltd.

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If Frank's gone to Florida - how are we going to get our money back, how are you going to bump into him / if the Ipswich Police and the fraud squad can't do anything waht can we do?

 

Has he got away with it, is he laughing whilst he buys the big house with the pool in the USA with our money!!!!!!

 

What good is this forum.

 

In a few months(weeks) is this thread going to die off alng with our money?

 

Any advice anyone please - can you track him down once he has left the UK?

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this thread has died off.

 

if u paid him or the company by card, then u have to go through your bank within a certain amount of days.

 

other than that the only other way is a joint legal action against the company, but that could cost thousands.

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this thread has died off.

 

if u paid him or the company by card, then u have to go through your bank within a certain amount of days.

 

other than that the only other way is a joint legal action against the company, but that could cost thousands.

Hi again, I think joint legal action is the way forward. I have said this before, it would show how many people he has ripped off.

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To do any kind of legal action will cost more money - money i cannot afford to spend! What more can we say on the subject we have been ripped off by Frank Galler. Natasha Tate & Russell no longer accept calls they have a lady who continuously says they're busy, popped out etc so they have washed there hands of it. Unfortunately no one on the Tate Lloyd thread offered any advice or if they got there money back - i can only assume not.:mad:

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To do any kind of legal action will cost more money - money i cannot afford to spend! What more can we say on the subject we have been ripped off by Frank Galler. Natasha Tate & Russell no longer accept calls they have a lady who continuously says they're busy, popped out etc so they have washed there hands of it. Unfortunately no one on the Tate Lloyd thread offered any advice or if they got there money back - i can only assume not.:mad:

Hi Oreogal, I understand how you feel, i understand how everyone feels. FLG has taken money from all of us , where has it gone, ? . we can only find out if we ALL get together, it will hurt but i do not beleive we should let it go. FLG has taken moneys from some people and done nothing, there is a case , but everyone needs to pull together. This can be done, this man has taken a lot of money from many people. Free advice is available and i would get it . but I need to see people here . They say nothing can be done, let a JUDGE have his say. FLG still beleives he has got away with this , he has not, TRUST me, he will end up in court thats if no one bumps him of first, I want him in court. PLEASE get everyone on here , and i promise i will go see a solicator. I want numbers. Regards dave

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For all those people who are clearly looking for FRANK GALLER, He is currently residing in Spain in Fuente Alamo, Murcia. I was not able to locate a specific address but managed to trace him to that area, so if anybody is thinking of taking a little holiday any time soon you might want to pay him a visit? Sorry I cannot be of more help and looking at the last post this is a long time coming but tracking him down was not an easy task! :)

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