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    • Hi there, Here is the sticky filled out as best as possible:  Which Court have you received the claim from? MCOL (County Court Business Centre, Northampton) Name of the Claimant: Uk Parking Control Limited Claimants Solicitors: DCB Legal Date of issue: March 2023 Following events: — DQ sent to me July 2023 — I filed a DQ in September 2023 — My claim was transferred to [my local court] September 2023 — Received Notice of Allocation to Small Claims Track (Hearing) including date for hearing in April 2024 — Witness statement due by May 14 — Claimant must pay court fees by May 17 — Court hearing on June 18   What is the claim for – the reason they have issued the claim? Please type out their particulars of claim (verbatim) less any identifiable data and round the amounts up/down. 1. The defendant is indebted to the claimant for a Parking Charge issued at [x] issued to vehicle [__] at Walcot Yard, Walcot Road, Bath, Ba1 5bg. 2. The PCN details are [___]. 3. The PCN(s) was issued on private land owned or managed by C. The vehicle was parked in breach of the Terms on Cs signs (the Contract), this incurring the PCNs. 4. The driver agreed to pay within 28 days but did not. D is liable as the driver or keeper. Despite requests, the PCN is outstanding. The Contract entitles C to damages.  AND THE CLAIMANT CLAIMS 1. £160 being the total of the PCN(s) and damages. 2. Interest at a rate of 8% per annum pursuant to s.69 of the County Courts Act 1984 from the date hereof at a daily rate of [x]p until judgement or sooner payment. 3. Costs and court fees   What is the value of the claim? ~260 Amount Claimed ~170 court fees ~35 legal rep fees ~50 Total Amount  ~260   Have you moved since the issuance of the PCN? No   Did you receive a letter of Claim With A reply Pack wanting I&E etc about 1mth before the claimform? No Here is the defence I filed:  DEFENCE 1. The parking charges referred to in this claim did not arise from any agreement of terms. The charge and the claim was an unexpected shock. The Defendant denies that the Claimant is entitled to relief in the sum claimed, or at all. It is denied that any conduct by the driver was a breach of any prominent term and it is denied that this Claimant (understood to have a bare licence as managers) has standing to sue or form contracts in their own name. Liability is denied, whether or not the Claimant is claiming 'keeper liability', which is unclear from the Particulars. The facts as known to the Defendant: 2. It is admitted that on the material date the Defendant was the registered keeper of the vehicle in question, but liability is denied. 3. While working at a nearby premises, [___] the Defendant was informed by the manager that they had an informal verbal agreement with the developer and owner operator of [___], which supposedly allowed them to park there. Based on this information, the Defendant parked their car there in good faith. The Defendant was not aware of any restrictions or limitations to this agreement, and therefore believed that they had the right to park there without penalty. 4. The Defendant avers that the Claimant failed to serve a Notice to Keeper compliant with the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012. Consequently, the claimant cannot transfer liability for this charge to the Defendant as keeper of the vehicle. 5. The Particulars of Claim ('POC') appear to be in breach of CPR 16.4, 16PD3 and 16PD7, and fail to "state all facts necessary for the purpose of formulating a complete cause of action”. 6. The Defendant is unable, on the basis of the POC, to understand with certainty what case is being pursued. 7. The POC are entirely inadequate, in that they fail to particularise (a) the contractual term(s) relied upon; (b) the specifics of any alleged breach of contract; and (c) how the purported and unspecified 'damages' arose and the breakdown of the exaggerated quantum. 8. The claim has been issued via Money Claims Online and, as a result, is subject to a character limit for the Particulars of Claim section of the Claim Form. The fact that generic wording appears to have been applied has obstructed any semblance of clarity. The Defendant trusts that the court will agree that a claim pleaded in such generic terms lacks the required details and requires proper particularisation in a detailed document within 14 days, per 16PD.3 9. The guidance for completing Money Claims Online confirms this and clearly states: "If you do not have enough space to explain your claim online and you need to serve extra, more detailed particulars on the defendant, tick the box that appears after the statement 'you may also send detailed particulars direct to the defendant.'" 10. No further particulars have been filed and to the Defendant's knowledge, no application asking the court service for more time to serve and/or relief from sanctions has been filed either. 11. In view of it having been entirely within the Claimant's Solicitors' gift to properly plead the claim at the outset and the claim being for a sum, well within the small claims limit, such that the Defendant considers it disproportionate and at odds with the overriding objective (in the context of a failure by the Claimant to properly comply with rules and practice directions) for a Judge to throw the erring Claimant a lifeline by ordering further particulars (to which a further defence might be filed, followed by further referral to a Judge for directions and allocation) the court is respectfully invited to strike this claim out. 13. Whilst the new Code and Act is not retrospective, it was enacted due to the failure of the self-serving BPA & IPC Codes of Practice. The Minister is indisputably talking about existing (not future) cases when declaring that 'recovery' fees were 'designed to extort money'. A clear steer for the Courts which it is hoped overrides mistakes made in a few appeal cases that the parking industry desperately rely upon (Britannia v Semark-Jullien, One Parking Solution v Wilshaw, Vehicle Control Services v Ward and Vehicle Control Services v Percy). 14. Far from being persuasive, regrettably these one-sided appeals saw Circuit Judges led in one direction by Counsel for parking firms, and the litigant-in-person consumers lacked the wherewithal to appeal. In case this Claimant tries to rely upon these, the Defendant avers that errors were made in every case. Evidence was either overlooked (including signage discrepancies in Wilshaw, where the Judge was also oblivious to the BPA Code of Practice and the DVLA KADOE requirement for landowner authority) or the Judge inexplicably sought out and quoted from the wrong Code altogether (Percy). In Ward, a few seconds' emergency stop out of the control of the driver was unfairly aligned with the admitted parking contract in Beavis. Those learned Judges were not in possession of the same level of information as the DLUHC, whose incoming statutory Code of Practice now clarifies such matters as a definition of 'parking' as well as consideration and grace periods and minor matters such as 'keying errors' or 'fluttering tickets/permits' where a PCN should not have been issued at all, or should have been cancelled in the pre-action dispute phase. POFA and CRA breaches 15. Pursuant to Schedule 4 paragraph 4(5) of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 ('the POFA') the sum claimed exceeds the maximum potentially recoverable from a registered keeper, even in cases where a firm may have complied with other POFA requirements (adequate signage, Notice to Keeper wording/dates, and a properly communicated 'relevant contract/relevant obligation'). If seeking keeper/hirer liability - unclear from the POC - the Claimant is put to strict proof of full compliance and liability transferred. 16. Claiming costs on an indemnity basis is unfair, per the Unfair Contract Terms Guidance (CMA37, para 5.14.3), the Government guidance on the Consumer Rights Act 2015 ('CRA'). The CRA introduced new requirements for 'prominence' of both contract terms and 'consumer notices'. In a parking context, this includes signage and all notices, letters and other communications intended to be read by the consumer. 17. Section 71 creates a duty upon courts to consider the test of fairness, including (but not limited to) whether all terms/notices were unambiguously and conspicuously brought to the attention of a consumer. Signage must be prominent, plentiful, well placed and lit, and all terms unambiguous and obligations clear. The Defendant avers that the CRA has been breached due to unfair/unclear terms and notices, pursuant to s62 and paying due regard to examples 6, 10, 14 & 18 of Schedule 2 and the requirements for fair/open dealing and good faith. ParkingEye v Beavis is distinguished (lack of legitimate interest/prominence of terms) 18. ParkingEye overcame the possibility of their £85 charge being dismissed as punitive, however the Supreme Court clarified that ‘the penalty rule is plainly engaged’ in parking cases, which must each be determined on their own facts. That 'unique' case met a commercial justification test, and took into account the prominent yellow/black uncluttered signs with £85 in the largest/boldest text. Rather than causing other parking charges to be automatically justified, the Beavis case facts set a high bar that this Claimant has failed to reach. 19. Paraphrasing from the Supreme Court, deterrence is likely to be penal if there is a lack of a 'legitimate interest' in performance extending beyond the prospect of compensation flowing directly from the alleged breach. The intention cannot be to punish a driver, nor to present them with hidden terms, unexpected/cumbersome obligations nor 'concealed pitfalls or traps'. 20. In the present case, the Claimant has fallen foul of those tests. The Claimant’s small signs have vague/hidden terms and a mix of small font, and are considered incapable of binding a driver. Consequently, it remains the Defendant’s position that no contract to pay an onerous 'penalty' was seen or agreed. Binding Court of Appeal authorities which are on all fours with a case involving unclear terms and a lack of ‘adequate notice’ of a parking charge, include: (i) Spurling v Bradshaw [1956] 1 WLR 461 (‘red hand rule’) and (ii) Thornton v Shoe Lane Parking Ltd [1970] EWCA Civ2, both leading authorities confirming that a clause cannot be incorporated after a contract has been concluded; and (iii) Vine v London Borough of Waltham Forest: CA 5 Apr 2000, where Ms Vine won because it was held that she had not seen the terms by which she would later be bound, due to "the absence of any notice on the wall opposite the parking space'' (NB: when parking operator Claimants cite Vine, they often mislead courts by quoting out of context, Roch LJ's words about the Respondent’s losing case, and not from the ratio). 21. Fairness and clarity of terms and notices are paramount in the statutory Code and this is supported by the BPA & IPC Trade Bodies. In November 2020's Parking Review, solicitor Will Hurley, CEO of the IPC, observed: "Any regulation or instruction either has clarity or it doesn’t. If it’s clear to one person but not another, there is no clarity. The same is true for fairness. Something that is fair, by definition, has to be all-inclusive of all parties involved – it’s either fair or it isn’t. The introduction of a new ‘Code of Practice for Parking’ provides a wonderful opportunity to provide clarity and fairness for motorists and landowners alike." Lack of standing or landowner authority, and lack of ADR 22. DVLA data is only supplied to pursue parking charges if there is an agreement flowing from the landholder (ref: KADOE rules). It is not accepted that this Claimant (an agent of a principal) has authority from the landowner to issue charges in this place in their own name. The Claimant is put to strict proof that they have standing to make contracts with drivers and litigate in their own name. 23. The Claimant failed to offer a genuinely independent Alternative Dispute Resolution (ADR). The Appeals Annex in the new incoming statutory Code shows that genuine disputes such as this would see the charge cancelled, had a fair ADR existed. Whether or not a person engaged with it, the Claimant's consumer blame culture and reliance upon the industry's own 'appeals service' should not sway the court into a belief that a fair appeal was ever on offer. The rival Trade Bodies' time-limited and opaque 'appeals' services fail to properly consider facts or rules of law and reject almost any dispute: e.g. the IAS upheld appeals in a woeful 4% of decided cases (IPC's 2020 Annual Report). Conclusion 24. The claim is entirely without merit. The Defendant believes that it is in the public interest that claims like this should be struck out because knowingly enhanced parking claims like this one cause consumer harm on a grand scale. 25. There is ample evidence to support the view - long held by many District Judges - that these are knowingly exaggerated claims. For HMCTS to only disallow those costs in the tiny percentage of cases that reach hearings whilst other claims to continue to flood the courts unabated, is to fail hundreds of thousands of consumers who suffer CCJs or pay inflated amounts, in fear of intimidating pre-action threats. 26. In the matter of costs, the Defendant asks: (a) at the very least, for standard witness costs for attendance at Court, pursuant to CPR 27.14, and (b) for a finding of unreasonable conduct by this Claimant, seeking costs pursuant to CPR 46.5. 27. Attention is drawn specifically to the (often-seen from this industry) distinct possibility of an unreasonably late Notice of Discontinuance. Whilst CPR r.38.6 states that the Claimant is liable for the Defendant's costs after discontinuance (r.38.6(1)) this does not normally apply to claims allocated to the small claims track (r.38.6(3)). However, the White Book states (annotation 38.6.1): "Note that the normal rule as to costs does not apply if a claimant in a case allocated to the small claims track serves a notice of discontinuance although it might be contended that costs should be awarded if a party has behaved unreasonably (r.27.14(2)(dg))." Statement of Truth I believe that the facts stated in this defence are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.
    • Hi, I was caught by the security guards today for shoplifting in John Lewis. I think total amount is about £500. They said they saw me on CCTV last week, I was freaked out so I admitted it. I know it’s awful… I cried as I was too scared and begged them pls don’t call the police. They took pics of me and wrote down my details from banking app as I didn’t have any id with me. I told them my difficulties that I was scammed £35k recently and I lost my job so I stole those things and sell them. I apologised and they said they won’t call the police but I’m banned and will receive letters from RLP for fines which including this time and the last time(I didn’t give back the goods I took last time). I know it’s very very bad, I feel shameful and so depressed so hopeless about everything happened. I wonder since it’s a lot of money, will they sue me, take me to the court, or will they change their mind to call the police when they check the cctv footage to check how much I owe them? I said sorry I really couldn’t afford the fine at this situation, they said it’s their job they can’t do anything. Later when I was out of the mall, the security guard said, I can call RLP to negotiate about the fee. Also I’m probably moving to another city in 2 months, so if they want to take me to court but I didn’t receive any letters what should I do… and the security guy told me it’s worse as I traveled to this city and stealing stuff. I’m home now but feeling awful, wish people could give me some advice, thank you very much.
    • Before you do any of the above – Stop! You need to spend a few days reading up on the stories on this sub- forum so that you understand the principles and you understand how to go about making your claim. We will help you – and you have a better than 95% chance of getting your money back – but you need to be in control of what you are doing. We will help you – but this is a self-help forum and you need to have done the reading so that you are confident of each step and you know your way forward. Please don't do anything at all – in particular don't send a letter of claim – until you have done all the reading and I would suggest that probably you will start drafting your letter of claim over the weekend. Also, you haven't told us anything about what has happened. We don't know dates, items dispatched, value, whether they were properly declared, whether you bought so-called insurance, you have been declined reimbursement but we don't know why. If you want us to help you then you will have to give us this basic information. Also the fact that you are an eBay trader makes this slightly more complicated although it doesn't at all affect your chances of success.  Read the other threads on this sub- forum – and especially the pinned threads at the top in order to understand the principles. You also quickly understand the kind of help that we will give you and you will understand some of the draft documents which have been used in other successful claims.
    • Thanks, I'm finishing up the skeleton and hope to have it done today. Will look at statement of case too and get that done over the next few days.
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Hi there, I have been reading lots of threads regarding Yes Car Credit & Go Debt and have been impressed and have made me feel a little more at ease but I could really do with a little personal help if possible??

 

Back in 2004 myself and an Ex G/F got a car from YCC which got returned about a year later. I didn't even have a driving licence i just signed as a second person on the agreement so they would give her the credit. I split from the ex and she left the car; unsure as what to do i continued to pay for something i couldn't use and in the end enough was enough i contacted YCC and said i could no longer afford the car. They arranged the collection and nothing more was said.

 

And now dated 10/02/2010 i have a letter from Go Debt saying:

 

Dear Sir/Madam

RE: Direct Auto Financial Services Ltd.

Outstanding Balance: £ ££££.££

 

We write with regards to the above matter.

 

Should you fail to settle this matter in by 12:00p.m. tuesday the 16th February 2010 we will take immediate steps to recover the full balance from you together with interest and costs. In this event a statutory demand in bankruptcy will be served upon you perseonally(their spelling mistake :rolleyes:) with a view to making you a bankrupt.

 

Please note that any assets you hold may be at risk.

 

This matter has been outstanding since 2005. To date you have not made any payments towards your debt. However in MM/YYYY you purchased (My home Address) for £ £££,£££,££.

 

Please contact us immediately.

 

Justin Fowler.

Go Debt Limited.

 

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Kind of lost at the moment and has come of a bit of blow. Since all of this happened in the past i have now a Fiancee, 2yr old little boy and another boy due in June. As they stated in there letter i have recently purchased a house this is a joint Mortgage with my partner and as you can imagine she is not very happy at all with the prospect of losing everything we have now for something i did in my past and is also due to go on maternity in May...

 

Please Please any help or advise would really go along way and hopefully put myself & partner at ease!!

 

Thank you.

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first thing we are going to need is the agreement, so you are going to have to send a cca request, this costs a pound, if they ring do not get in to a conversation on the phone with them, do not admit any liability, in fact put the phone down on them. do not worry as the agreement they have is utter garbage and has been defended in court on many many occassions, i will post up the letter for you for getting the agreement..send recorded delivery so that you know they have recieved

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To Whom It May Concern:

 

Your Reference: Agreement Number:

 

I DO NOT ACKNOWLEDGE ANY DEBT TO YOUR COMPANY

 

 

With reference to the above account, I request that you send me a true copy of this Credit Agreement before I will correspond further on this matter.

 

This is my right under the legislation contained within Section 77 (1) and Section 78 (1) of the Consumer Credit Act 1974, and I am entitled to receive a copy of my Credit Agreement on request.

 

Your obligation also extends to providing me with a statement of account. I enclose a £1 Postal Order, which represents payment of the statutory fee payable under the Consumer Credit Act. I understand that a copy of my Credit Agreement should be supplied within 12 working days from the date of this letter.

 

I also understand that under the Consumer Credit Act, creditors are unable to enforce an agreement if they fail to comply with a request for a copy of the Agreement under these sections of the Act.

 

 

 

In summary, I DO NOT ACKNOWLEDGE THIS DEBT AND THEREFORE REQUIRE YOU TO SUBSTANTIATE THIS BY PROVIDING THE FOLLOWING DOCUMENTATION BEFORE I CORRESPOND FURTHER :

 

 

1. True copy of original Credit Agreement

2. Statement of Account

3. Copy of the executed Deed Of Assignment from the Original Creditor and Thames Credit Limited.

4. Fair Processing Notice.

 

The time limits, which are laid down in the Consumer Credit (Prescribed Periods for Giving Information) Regulations 1983 are clear. You must supply an executed Credit Agreement within 12 + 2 working days of a proper Consumer Credit Agreement request.

 

 

As you are aware, a Credit Agreement that is not properly documented and signed by the customer is totally unenforceable under the Consumer Credit Act and therefore is a complete defence to any court claim that is issued.

 

 

Take note at this stage, that any legal action you may contemplate will be both vigorously defended and contested.

 

Further to the above, please ensure that any contact by yourselves is made in writing only to the above address. Telephone calls and personal visits will not be accepted and viewed as harassment - Administration Of Justice Act 1970, Protection From Harassment Act 1997, Communications Act 2003. If you continue to harass me by telephone I will report you to OFCOM, Trading Standards and The Office Of Fair Trading, meaning that you will be liable to a substantial fine

 

May I remind you, there is only an implied license under English Common Law for people to be able to visit me on my property without express permission; the postman and people asking for directions etc (Armstrong v. Sheppard and Short Ltd [1959] 2 Q.B. per Lord Evershed M.R.). Therefore take note that I revoke license under Common Law for you, or your representatives to visit me at my property and if you do so, then you will be liable to damages for a tort of trespass and action will be taken, including but not limited to, Police attendance.

 

I look forward to hearing from you within the statutory time limit.

 

Yours faithfully

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ah that's great new's, we were really worried but i did think that because we only got the mortgage in 2008 we are still in negative equity due to the crunch and and fall in house prices and also i have a 17,000,00 loan secured on the house; that they wouldn't benefit from making me sell the house and hopefully the courts wouldn't make me... True or False?? Sorry i am unaware of what they can do!!

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very unlikely that the courts would order you to sell, and also remember that option is a very very very long way down the line... godebt themselves cannot make you do anything..they have no power what so ever...try not too worry... just to let you know, in order to have a court even to look at selling your house they would

1. have to take you to court, win, and then

2. you would have to default on the judgement.

3, they could then apply for a charging order

4. even if they gained this..they would then have to apply to court to enforce

5. almost impossible to get courts to agree to house sale where children are involved

6. your partner owns half the asset so they cannot force her so sell

so you see a lot of it is simply empty threats

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Well all posted yesterday, 1st class Sign for; I included the letter template and a postal order for £1.00. They said it should be there on monday and to check the tracking online along with the tracking on the postal order to see when they cash it. Fingers Crossed just waiting for the reply (well hopefully not :rolleyes:) Oh yeah the cheeky beggers some how have got hold of my nans number :eek: and have been proper nasty to her down the phone. :mad: One Justin Fowler he's the Piers Morgan who wrote to me. I have told her not to sit and listen to it just tell them to F**K off and put the phone down. she will give as good as she gets... :D

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they will prob send the agreement, but dont worry they are absolute bog roll..not worth the paper they are written on.. on the unlikely event they do initiate court action it is very easily to defend and win...they have lost so many of these ycc, i am surprised they are still going ahead..but there again a lot of people will just pay up to get rid of them...tell your nan to tell em if they ring again it is harrassment and they will be reported

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Well all posted yesterday, 1st class Sign for; I included the letter template and a postal order for £1.00. They said it should be there on monday and to check the tracking online along with the tracking on the postal order to see when they cash it. Fingers Crossed just waiting for the reply (well hopefully not :rolleyes:) Oh yeah the cheeky beggers some how have got hold of my nans number :eek: and have been proper nasty to her down the phone. :mad: One Justin Fowler he's the twit who wrote to me. I have told her not to sit and listen to it just tell them to F**K off and put the phone down. she will give as good as she gets... :D

 

Leon look it will cost them about 1k to make you bankrupt and if have no money the judge will kick it out .....justin Flower is a pr--k he sends letters like this to all debtors just to make you think that they will bankrupt its not true...tell them to do it if they cant serve the papers they cnt bk you. if godebt or Justin Flower keeps calling your nan get her to spek with the Police its nothing to do with her and as for your wife it will be ok but one thing speak with the CAB...

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Ok Guys I've had a quick reply from Go Debt and all in all they sent me 12 forms/letters listed and linked below:

 

Go Debt Letter.

 

CA Part 1

 

CA Part 2

 

CA Part 3

 

CA Part 4

 

Default 1 Part 1

 

Default 1 Part 2

 

Default 2 Part 1

 

Default 2 Part 2

 

YYC Letter

 

Transaction Report

 

 

 

A couple of things i noticed while looking over the forms:

 

we paid a £402.00 deposit which they didn't take off the car but the Insurance (Dunno if it makes a difference)

 

There was PPI and like i said in a previous post i'm 99% sure they said we couldn't get the credit without it.

 

Unsure about the Mechanical Breakdown and don't even know what GAP insurance cash premium was/is.

 

The signature on behalf of YCC was signed and dated two days after we signed it.

 

It also states in Termination: Your rights. That i can end the agreement if i write to YCC and return the car which i did; (I arranged the collection date and they collected) and would only have to pay half; which there clearly coming for the full amount..

 

To be fair though i really don't know what i'm looking for; and best leave it to you professionals ;)

 

Thanks.

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yes that is exactly what i wanted to see.. on the agreement they have taken your deposit and used it on the insurances..this makes the whole thing null and void.. not too worry, will sort out letter for you when i get home.. if they do issue a stat demand..do not panic.. in fact it is easy to set aside... once letter goes off should be last we hear

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you've just put the BIGGEST smile on my face. Hope you got paypal because once i get confirmation that it's all been voided and i don't owe them a penny I'll be sending some cash your way for making this happen :D

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Godebt

Xxx

Xxx

Date

 

Agreement number

 

Ref yes car agreement

 

 

I DO NOT ACKNOWLEDGE THIS DEBT TO YOU OR ANY OTHER COMPANY

 

 

 

 

 

DEAR SIR/MADAM

 

YOU HAVE CONTACTED ME REFERENCE AN ACCOUNT WITH YES CAR CREDIT.

I REQUESTED THAT YOU SENT TO ME A COPY OF THE AGREEMENT FOR WHICH I HAVE RECEIVED.

 

AFTER HAVING AN AUDIT DONE ON THE AGREEMENT, IT APPEARS THAT THE AGREEMENT IS UNENFORCEABLE AND THAT YOUR COMPANY GODEBT IS WELL AWARE ON THE SHORTCOMINGS OF THESE AGREEMENTS.

 

ALLOW ME TO EXPLAIN,

 

ANY DEPOSIT OR TRADE IN HAS BEEN ADDED AS A DEPOSIT ON THE INSURANCE PRODUCTS AND NOT THE PURPOSE THEY ARE INTENDED FOR.

THAT BEING THE CAR.

 

IT APPEARS YOUR COMPANY HAS HAD PRIOR DEALING WITH A FIRM OF SOLICITORS CALLED STEPHENSONS AND I AM MORE THAN HAPPY TO PLACE THIS MATTER IN THERE HANDS. COSTS WILL THEN BECOME AN ISSUE.

 

I EXPECT YOU NOW TO CLOSE DOWN THIS FILE AS I HAVE PUT THE ACCOUNT NOW INTO OFFICIAL DISPUTE AND NEED NOT REMIND YOU ON THE REGULATIONS UNDER THE

 

CONSUMER PROTECTION FROM UNFAIR TRADING REGULATIONS.

 

IT SEEMS STRANGE TO ME THAT YOU FULLY UNDERSTAND THE LEGALITY OF THESE AGREEMENTS BUT STILL CONTINUES TO ENFORCE. THAT ACTION MAY BE TANTAMOUNT TO THE FRAUD ACT.

 

I NOW EXPECT YOUR COMPLIANCE DEPARTMENT TO INVESTIGATE MY CONCERNS AND REPLY WITH IN THE PRESCRIBED TIME SCALES AND THAT NO CONTACT BE MADE WHILE THIS DISPUTE CONTINUES.

 

WHILE THIS INVESTIGATION CONTINUES I REQUIRE YOU TO SEND ME A FULL STATEMENT OF ACCOUNT, ANY DEFAULT AND TERMINATION NOTICE, AND ANY NOTICE OF ASSIGNMENT.

 

I MAKE THIS REQUEST BEING THAT YOU NOW REPORT YOURSELF AS THE CREDITOR AND MUST ACKNOWLEDGE MY REQUEST WITH ALL RIGHTS AND DUTIES OF THE CREDITOR.

 

I MUST SAY THE AGREEMENT YOU HAVE SUPPLIED MUST BE ONE OF THE WORST CREDIT AGREEMENTS IVE EVER SEEN AND WILL FULLY DEFEND ANY ACTION BY YOUR COMPANY WITH COSTS.

 

I TRUST I HAVE MADE MY POSITION CLEAR AND WILL NO LONGER ENTER INTO NEGOTIATIONS WITH YOUR COMPANY.

 

 

 

 

IT MAY SOUND A BIT HARSH BUT WE HAVE HAD PLENTY OF DEALINGS WITH GODEBT

ITS THE ONLY LANGUAGE THEY UNDERSTAND

CUT AND PASTE THAT TO WORD

THEN SEND IT TO GODEBT MAKE SURE YOU GET IT RECORDED OR SIGNED FOR

 

 

IF THEY PHONE

 

DONT ANSWER THERE QUESTIONS, JUST KEEP REPEATING

EVERYTHING IN WRITING

EVERYTHING IN WRITING

THEY ARE VERY GOOD AT MIND GAMES AND ITS FOR YOUR PROTECTION

 

 

PLEASE KEEP YOUR THREAD UPDATED, DOES NOT MATTER HOW SMALL

 

my thanks to postgjj for original letter

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Morning Debt4Get, Letter looks good :D

 

There is one part which is the request for Doc's:

 

WHILE THIS INVESTIGATION CONTINUES I REQUIRE YOU TO SEND ME A FULL STATEMENT OF ACCOUNT, ANY DEFAULT AND TERMINATION NOTICE, AND ANY NOTICE OF ASSIGNMENT.

 

I think they may have sent them already are you able to have a look through the links i put up to view the Doc's as i'm sure they have given me the Statement of account & The defaults; unsure about the Termination notice though.

 

Just wondered if there was anything else you may have seen for future ammo if needed ;)

 

Oh yeah when i copy and paste do i leave in capital letters or scale it down to normal format?

 

They also said they have attached a letter from me acknowledging the monies due and owing??? Do you think this is the letter that i don't remember doing or signing (I think she may have done this on my behalf) although i don't think it matters who done it as it's not counter signed by a witness or an official legal Doc!!???

 

Thanks

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