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    • So I am now in receipt of a second Letter of Claim this time from DCBL although their letter head now says " DCBLegal"  😱 Now I'm guessing one response to a letter of claim is sufficient and I could ignore this but having been inspired by other snotty letters I wanted to have another bash at one. How does this sound? Dear Lackeys of Company with Unconscionable Morals, Thank you ever so much for gracing me with yet another Letter Before Claim on behalf of Excel Parking Services. How many of these delightful missives do you plan on sending before you muster the courage to follow through on your threats to take me to court? Just so we're clear, here is the response (in italics by that I mean the slanted text below) I previously sent to Excel’s Letter Before Claim, in case your attention to detail is as lacking as I suspect: I am currently 2-0 up in terms of Small Claims Court proceedings and I look forward to the opportunity to claim a hat trick, this case being more straightforward than my previous two. I will be asking the court for an unreasonable costs order under CPR 27.14(2)(g) due to your conduct over this absurd claim. Despite my best efforts, you continue to assert that I have breached your terms. However, I cannot breach terms that I was not present to accept. Have you even read my initial response? I suggest you review it thoroughly and save yourself some money. Additionally, please refer to section 13 of the IPC Code of Practice, 2023 edition. I eagerly await your deafening silence. Remarkably, I haven't heard a peep from Excel since my response; instead, they've passed the baton to you to perform this tiresome routine once more. Consider this my official notice that I am sending a cease and desist letter to Excel Parking Services. Their relentless hounding has crossed the line into clear harassment. Any further demands for payment from you, as Excel's lackeys, will be regarded as nothing more than shameless acts of intimidation and harassment. I now look forward to the deafening sound of your silence. Yours sincerely,
    • Personally I'd go to it and object for the sake of it. They have to attend anyway so I can't see you being liable for any costs or anything (if they try to ask for attendance costs, just say that firstly it is their application, secondly it is from their own making, thirdly that they would have to come anyway so you shouldn't need to bear their costs.   When you turn up you should object on the basis that the witness has been in office since the time of the order, and could have done their witnes statement in advance of their AL. Their poor planning is not your fault, 7 days is too rushed for you as a LIP and there is no good reason that a company can't organise itself to sort WX in time. Also they say finalise so they already have something, its not like thye have nothing. Their amendments cannot be so important if they are being added so late.   see what @AndyOrch says but that's my thoughts  
    • Yes, in the main your understanding of my case is right. Linked below to the post with the final WS sent to the court and to Evri.   
    • Hello, welcome to CAG. As you say, appealing this ticket doesn't help as these people hardly ever accept appeals. They don't care how difficult someone's life is, they just want the money. The forum guys should be along later with thoughts for you on how to deal with this. Best, HB
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Hi, a few weeks ago I was late for work by 4 hours due to unavoidable traansport problems. (First time Ive been over 10minutes late)

 

When I came into work the next day, I was told my reasons were not good enough and was suspended on full pay. I have to go into work for an investigation at some point, and was just wondering if anyone here had any idea if this could be classed as Gross Misconduct?

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Thanks so much for the prompt reply Elpulpo!

 

1:11 Months

2:No

3:None realy, it was a Sunday so we werent that busy at all. They could have coped quite well without me.

4:Yes they have, it tells me when the investigation is and that they may decide to discipline me.

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Thanks so much for the prompt reply Elpulpo!

 

1:11 Months

2:No

3:None realy, it was a Sunday so we werent that busy at all. They could have coped quite well without me.

4:Yes they have, it tells me when the investigation is and that they may decide to discipline me.

Thanks for answering the questions! So often people just go off on one.:)

 

Were you late due to the weather/public transport?

What size is the company? Standard disciplinary/performance rules?

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A combination of weather and public transport. However my manager has spoken to the transport depot who said everything was running normally. They havent replied to my email asking why I didnt see a bus yet.

 

It's a very large branded company, but it is a franchise with about 70 people. It's very nearly retail work, so it's pretty standard rules.

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Assuming for the moment your company are being fair and not trying to "downsize" on the cheap.....

 

Can you obtain any independent proof of the transport delays (local newspaper report for example). In other words prove you didn't just get up four hours late! Providing you made a reasonable effort to get there on time there should be no further issue.

 

Sadly, as you have worked there for less than a year your protection is limited.

 

Is there any reason to believe they are generally unhappy with your performance and are simply looking for specific point?

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Assuming for the moment your company are being fair and not trying to "downsize" on the cheap.....

 

Can you obtain any independent proof of the transport delays (local newspaper report for example). In other words prove you didn't just get up four hours late! Providing you made a reasonable effort to get there on time there should be no further issue.

 

Sadly, as you have worked there for less than a year your protection is limited.

 

Is there any reason to believe they are generally unhappy with your performance and are simply looking for specific point?

Just what I was going to say.

It'd be disproportionate for them to dismiss. Hard to fight under 12 months service.

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Theyve just sponsored me on a degree, so I dont think theyre looking to get rid of me. The bus apparently takes a different route on Sunday so that was why I was late. I was unfamiliar with the area/bus route on Sunday so stood expecting a bus for some time.

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Forgive me if I'm being obtuse and I don't mean I disagree with your case, but how did the transport problems mean you were 4 hours late please? And did you ring in on the day to say things were going badly?

 

Just trying to understand. My best.

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FBC, re-reading your first post, you say you've been off for some weeks now? And you don't have a date for a meeting yet? It sounds quite long to me, although others on this forum know more than I do. Does the firm have a disciplinary procedure and do you have a copy?

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Hi,

Being late for work dismissals are very had to defend.

 

You can show that you are the best worker in the ,but there is no excuse for a bad time keeper[even if you are a few minutes late]

 

At the end of the day the business comes first and foremost in the eyes of any court of law.

 

If you are fired then i suggest you put this down to experiance.

 

Good luck.

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Was this the first time you had to travel to work by public transport on a sunday?

 

You say the bus takes a different route on sundays, how significantly different - is it a couple of roads different or enough that you would need to use an additional bus to get the the altered route? Also, was this change of route a new thing?

 

Answers may not help but you never know what helps,

 

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Hey, the bus-route was drastically different and I hadnt caught the bus on a Sunday before. Had my disciplinary earlier today. Formal warning and told to do better in future. They were quite pleasant about the whole thing realy. I'm sorry I was vague, but I know a couple of co-workers inhabit these forums.

 

Many thanks for all your help guys. I'm sorry if I hindered you with a lack of info.

 

Thankd again. You were all a realy great help :-)

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I'm pleased for you, FBC. Chalk it up to experience and try to take advice or check bus routes at the weekend if you're in that situation again. Do you have colleagues who live near you and know about buses or trains, if they apply? They might even give you a lift. :)

 

Move on with your life and your degree now. My best.

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