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    • Absolutely for the agreement they are referring to.... puts them on notice that this is going to be a uphill fight.   Andy 
    • Particular's of claim for reference only 1. the claim is for the sum of £6163.61due by the defendant under an agreement regulated by the consumer credit act 1974 for hsbc uk bank plc. Account (16 digits) 2. The defendant failed to maintain contractual payments required by the agreement and a default notice was served under s 87(1)  of the consumer credit act 1974 which as not been compiled with. 3. The debt was legally assigned to the Claimant on 23/08/23, notice on which as been given to the defendant.  4. The claim includes statutory interest under S.69 of the county courts act 1984 at a rate of 8% per annum from the date of assignment to the date of issue of these proceedings in the sum of £117.53 the Claimant claims the sum of £6281.14. Suggested defence 1. The Defendant contends the particulars of the claim are generic in nature. The Defendant accordingly sets out its case below and relies on CPR r 16.3 (3) in relation to any particular allegation to which a specific response has not been made. 2. The claimant has not complied with paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre action protocol) failed to serve a letter of claim pre claim pursuant to PAPDC changes of the 1st of October 2017. It is respectfully requested that the court take this into consideration pursuant 7.1 PAPDC. 3. Paragraph 1 is noted. I have in the past had financial dealings but do not recognise this specific account number or recollect any outstanding debt and have therefore requested clarification. 4. Paragraph 2 is denied. I have not been served with a default notice pursuant to the consumer credit act 1974. 5. Paragraph 3 is denied. i am unaware of any legal assignment or notice of assignment. A copy of assignment was sent by Overdales solicitors when acknowledgement of receipt of CPR request was received, but this was not the original.   6. Paragraph 4 is denied. Neither the original creditor or the assignee have served notice pursuant to sec86c of the Credit Consumer Act 1974 Notice of Sums in Arrears and therefore prevented from charging interest on debt regulated by the CCA1974. 7. The defendant submitted a request for a copy of the alleged agreement pursuant to s78 CCA 1974. The claimant has acknowledged receipt of request but has failed to comply. The claimant has failed to provide any evidence of balance or Default Notice requested by CPR 31.14 8. It is therefore denied with regards to defendant owing any monies to the claimant. therefore the claimant is put to strict proof to:  a.  Show how the defendant has entered into an agreement with HSBC. b.  Show and evidence the nature of breach and service of a Default notice pursuant to section 87 (1) CCA 1974. c.  Show and quantify how the defendant has reached the amount claimed for. d.  Show how the claimant has the legal right, either under statute or equity  to issue a claim. 8.  As per civil procedure rule 16.5 (4) it is expected claimant prove the allegation that the money is owed. 9.  Until such time the claimant can comply to a section 78 request he is not entitled, while the default continues, to enforce the agreement 10. By reasons of the facts and matters set out above, it is denied that the claimant is entitled to the relief claimed or any relief.     .
    • OK, well rereading the court orders from March, in the cold light of day rather than when knackered late at night, it is quite clear that on 25 June there will only be a preliminary hearing about Laura representing her son.  Nothing more. It's lazy DCBL who haven't read things properly and have stupidly sent their Witness Statement early. Laura & I had already been working on a WS, and here it is.  It needs tweaking now after reading the rubbish that DCBL sent and after all of LFI's comments.  But the "meat" is there. Defendant's WS - version 1.pdf
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    • That is really good is that a mistake last off "driver doesn't have a licence" I assume that should be keeper? The Court requested me to send the Court and applicant proof of my sons disability from their GP this clearly shows he has Severe Mental Impairement, he is also illiterate.  I naively assumed once the applicant received this that they would drop the claim.  It offends me that Bank has asked the Judge to throw the case out at the preliminary hearing and to make us pay up.
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And my reply is (unless anyone knows better) is this...

 

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Thank you for your letter dated 21 July, however, I believe you may have misread my letter of 13th June.

 

I merely require clarification that the printed set of terms and conditions that you sent to me on 6th October 2009 are the original terms and conditions that were effective at the time the alleged agreement was entered into.

 

I would be grateful if you would simply confirm that.

 

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Any comments please?

 

ps - at least they've admitted in their letter that they've provided a reconstituted agreement - I know this is acceptable under a cca request, but is it acceptable under a sar? As they've supplied a 'reconstituted' agreement, could you consider that they either don't have an original at all, or they are aware that the original does not conform?

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dear sirs

 

thank you for your letter of XXXxxxxx

 

i note that you now state that you will not enter into any further correspondence in this matter- which therefore defeats the overriding objectives in seeking a resolution of the matter outside of the court process

 

I therefore await service and will file unanswered any further demands for payment

 

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Hi Flooz,

 

I don't think they have to supply a CCA under the SAR, that's what I have read on here.

 

You would have thought that if they had the original, they would have supplied it by now!

 

many do- but the SAR is a request for information and it is this- not the document it is contained on or within- that the recipient is legally obliged to provide

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Thank you. DD I shall use that letter for my response, not sure about the 'inviting' them to take me to Court though. :confused:

 

Although they haven't confirmed or denied whether the printed T&C's they sent me were the original T&C's. That is quite interesting, I think. ;)

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Hi Flooz & Dotty can`t find the advanced I can`t understand why they changed the format? I`m not too bad myself just have critically ill sister in hospital going backwards and forwards and daughter is now in hospital she is 31 weeks pregnant first baby she is 31 yrs old and has a few complications her hubbie working away in Newcastle and she needing me as well it`s a nightmare her emotions are all over the place I`m trying to reassure her they say the baby would be around 5 pounds in weight if born now that`s a great weight but she still upset she may have it this weekend just got in from seeing my sister bless her she has kidney failure been widowed 6 years and has 3 boys I am really ready for a change in circumstances this year

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Hi Laura - seems like you're having a really tough time trying to look after everyone else. Don't forget to try and find some time for yourself - no matter how difficult that is.

 

I concur with welcoming a change of circumstances this year, although it doesn't seem to be happening for either of us yet. But let's think positively - there's always next year! :-D

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I said to the nurse yesterday that I`m quickly losing faith in religion as what I`ve had thrown at me this year as been way over the top It has been arranged for me to go to swimming tomorrow to just chill out and have some me time I sure need it thanks Flooz we both ready for a change in circumstances on the upside lost 1 stone in 5 days feel queezy when I eat the tears sure have flowed this week x

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Just posted and lost it aargh!!

 

Hi Laura,

 

I had my two babies at 32 and 33 weeks, one was 4lb 8oz and the other was 5lb 7oz, they are now nearly 21 and 19. Neo-natal care was fantastic all those years ago. Reassure your daughter how things have progressed so much and even with complications, they can do so much.

 

I hope your sister starts to show signs of improvement, it must be so difficult. You must be a very strong person to cope with so much. Keep your chin up! x

 

It seems that the upgrade to CAG was necessary to move forward with the system used, not that I understand it all myself!

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Thanks Dotty for your words yes told daughter it`s amazing what they can do now she`s a lecturer of sport and up until last week she was marking students course work she only finished last Friday so she has not even started on her nursery as she was going to do it through the school holidays I would imagine that is on her mind, told her if she has the baby this week she can use the time at home alone doing the nursery up as everything is ordered and we have a huge amount of things here

 

I am a organised person and my daughter is the same (pity other 3 are not lol) she will be fine we all reassuring her got today and tomorrow off from hospital visiting enjoying gathering myself together wish we could get a change of luck x

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