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    • so return of goods order etc etc read upload  scan pages to jpg, redact in mspaint. the convert to and merge to one mass PDF  read upload and use the online listed sites for all 3 stages. do you want to keep the car? i will guess this was a manual paper claimform direct from the co.court or was it org sent from salford bulk processing and has just got reaq ssigned?      
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    • in order for us to help you we require the following information:- Which Court have you received the claim from ? Canterbury Name of the Claimant ? Moneybarn No 1   How many defendant's  joint or self ? One Date of issue –  29/05/24 Acknowledged by 14/06/24  Defence by 29/06/24  Particulars of Claim PARTICULARS OF CLAIM 1.  By a Conditional Sale Agreement in writing made on 25th August 2022. Between the Claimant and Defendant, the Claimant let to the Defendant on Conditional Sale. A Ford Ranger 3.2 TDCi (200 P S) 4x4 Wildtrack Double Cab Pickup 3200cc (Sep.2015) Registration No, ******* Chassis number ***************** (“The Vehicle”).  A copy of the agreement is attached  2.  The price of the goods was £15,995.00. The Initial Rental was £8500.00.  The total charge for credit was £3575.;17 And the balance of £11,070.17 was payable by 59 equal consecutive monthly instalments of £187 63. payable on the 25th of each month. 3.  The following were expressed conditions of the set agreement, Clause 8: Our Right to End this Agreement  8.1   Subject to sending you the notice as required by law, any of the following events will entitle us to end this Agreement: 8.1.2  You fail to pay the advance payment (if any) or any of the payments as specified on the front page of this agreement or any other sum payable under this Agreement. 8.1.3 If any of the information you have given us before entering into this Agreement or during the term of this Agreement was false 8.1.4 We consider, acting reasonably, that the goods may be in jeopardy or that our rights in the goods may otherwise be prejudiced. 8.1.5 If you die 8.1.6 If a bankruptcy petition is presented against you; if you petition for your own bankruptcy, or make a live arrangement with your creditors or call a meeting of them. 8. 1.7 If in Scotland, you become insolvent or sequestration or a receiver, judicial factor or trustee to be appointed over any of your estate, or effects or suffer an arrestment, charge attachment or other diligence to be issued or levied on any of your estate or effects or suffer any exercise, or threatened exercise of landlords hype hypothec 8.1.8 If you are a partnership, you are dissolved 8.1.9 If the goods are destroyed, lost, stolen and/or treated by the insurer as a total loss in response to an insurance claim. 8.1.10 If we reasonably believe any payment made to us in respect of this Agreement is a proceed of crime. 8.1.11 If steps are taken by us to terminate any other agreement which you have entered into with us. Clause 9.  Effect of Us Terminating Agreement 9.1 If this Agreement terminates under clause 8 the following will apply 9.1.1 Subject to the rights given to you by law, you will no longer be entitled to possession of the goods and must return them to us to an address as we may reasonably specify, (removing or commencing the removal of any cherished plates) together with a V5 registration certificate, both sets of keys and a service record book. If you are unable or unwilling to return the goods to us then we shall collect the goods and we'll charge you in accordance with clause 10.3 9.1.2 We will be entitled to immediate payment from you for all payments and all other sums do under this agreement at the date of termination 9.1.3 We will sell the goods or public sale at the earliest opportunity once the goods are in a reasonable condition which includes a return of the items listed in clause 7.1.4 9.1.4 We will be entitled to immediate payment from you of the rest of the Total Amount Payable under this agreement less: ( a) A rebate for early settlement ias required by law which will be calculated and notified to you at the time of payment (b) The proceeds of sale of the goods (if any) after deduction of all costs associated with finding you and/or the goods, recovery, refurbishment and repair. Insurance, storage, sale, agents fees, cherished plate removal, replacement keys, costs associated with obtaining service history for the goods and in relation to obtaining a duplicate V5 registration certificate 4, The following are particulars required by Civil Procedure Rules. Rule 7.9 as set out in 7.1 and 7.2 of the associated Practice Direction entitled Hire Purchase Claims:- a)     The agreement is dated 25 August 2022. And is between Moneybarn No1 Limited  and xxxxxxxxx under agreement  number xxxxxx. b)    The claimant was one of the original parties to the agreement. c)    The agreement is regulated under the Consumer Credit Act 1974. d)    The goods claimed Ford Ranger 3.2 TDCi ( 200 PS) 4x4 Wildtrack Double Cab Pickup 3200 cc (Sep2015} Registration No ^^^^^^^ Chassis number ***************** e)     The total price of the goods £19570 f)     The paid up sum £1206 5 g)    The unpaid balance of the total price £7505 (to include charges) h)    A default notice was sent to the defendant on 20th February 2024 by First class post i)      The date when the right to demand delivery of the goods accrued 14 March 2024 j)      The amount if any claimed as an alternative to delivery of the goods 7505 22 include charges 5.  At the date of service of the notice the instalments were £562.89 in arrears. 6. By reason of the Termination of the Agreement by the notice, defendant became liable to pay the sum of £7502 7. The date of maturity the agreement is 24th August 2027. 8. Further or alternative by reasons of  the Defendant breaches of the agreement by failing to pay the said instalments, the Defendant evinced an intention no longer to be bound by the Agreement and repudiated it by the said Notice the claimant accepted that repudiation 9. By reason of such repudiation the claimant has suffered loss and damage. Total amount payable £19570 Less sum paid or in arrears by the date of repudiation £12064 97 Balance £7505 (to include charges.) ( The claimant will give credit if necessary for the value of the vehicle if recovered.)  The claimant therefore claims 1.    An order for delivery up of the vehicle 2.    The MoneyClaim to be adjourned generally with liberty to restore,  Upon restoration of the MoneyClaim following return or loss of the vehicle. the Claimant will ensure the pre action protocol for debt claims is followed. 3.    Pursuant to s 90 (1)  of the Consumer Credit Act 1974. An order that the Claimant and/or its agents may enter any premises in which the vehicle is situated in order to recover the vehicle should it not be returned by the Defendant 4.    further or alternatively damages 5.    costs Statement of truth The Claimant believes that the facts stated in these Particulars of Claim are true. The Claimant understands that the proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes or causes to be made a false statement in the document for verified by statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth. I am duly Authorised by the Claimant to sign these Particulars of Claim signed Dated 17th of April 2024  What is the total value of the claim? 7502   Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? No   Never heard of this   Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No   Did you inform the claimant of your change of address? n/a Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? No   When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? After  Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? In a garage  Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes  Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. Original Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? n/a   Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? They said sent but nor received   Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? None seen   Why did you cease payments? Still Paying,   What was the date of your last payment? Yesterday  31st May 2024   Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No   Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? Yes on 12 Feb 2024   What you need to do now.   Can't scan, will do via another means as you cant have jpg  
    • Now that is an interesting article which adds afew perspective that I hadn't thought significant - but on reflection of the perspectives offered ... Now Starmer is no Blair, however 'blairite he may be perceived, but the Tories aren't tories and aren't even remotely liberal   The fast 'unannounced and unexpected election call from sunack may well be explained by the opinion linked that he hoped reform would be unprepared and effectively call a chunk of Farages largely empty bluster - making him look even more of a prat, leave scope for attacks on shabby reform candidates and mimimise core vote losses to reform - while throwing the 'middle ground' (relative) tories TO THE DOGS - and with the added bonus of likely pacifying his missu' desire to jogg off to sunny cal tout suite somewhat   thumb in the air - I expect about 140ish tory seats, but can hope for under a hundred Reform - got to admit the outside possibility of 1, maybe 2 seats with about 8% of the vote - but unlikely. I think projections of over 10% of the vote for reform is nudged and paid for speculation - but possible with the expected massive drives from Russian, Chinese and far right social media bot and troll prods targeting the gullible.
    • Commentary June 2024 WWW.ELECTORALCALCULUS.CO.UK Interesting article about just how bad it could be for the Tories.  Also Tories could be hoping on Reform not having candidates in many seats, as they were not ready.  
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Handed in my S.A.R 1998 over the counter at my local TSB Branch, along with a £10 cheque (Saturday 12th August 12:30pm)

Sent email (contact.us@Lloyds TSB.co.uk) asking for confirmation they have received my S.A.R (Monday 15th August 12:22pm)

Applied online to:

Barclay's | Smile | NatWest (for parachute account)

Now, we wait.....:rolleyes:

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hi and welcome aboard. theres plenty of interesting reading on this site, dive in while you're waiting for your info. Knowledge is power!

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the train of thought has left the station, hope i was on the right platform!!

 

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prelim sent 06/07/06 response rec'd 14/07/06

LBA sent 20/07/06 response rec'd 27/07/06

Moneyclaim filed 22/08/06 Ack'd 30/08/06

Defence filed 26/09/06 AQ filed 12/10/06

hearing set for 10th Jan 2007

 

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prelim sent 2nd Nov 2006 First offer rec'd 14th Nov

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Email received; (16th August 2006 9:44am)

 

Dear Mr Burr

Thank you for the e-mail.

I acknowledge your request for copies of charge transactions on your account.

Your e-mail has been passed on to our Copy Statement Unit and I have asked that your request is noted and for a response to be sent to you at the earliest opportunity. I wish to point out that there is a £10 charge for the requested information. The Copy Statement Unit will be contacting you in connection with this.

I would like to point out that under Data Protection Act guidelines, the maximum period we are obliged to provide historic information such as this is 6 years. Additionally, we are allowed up to 40 days to provide this type of information, but hopefully we shall be in a position to respond before then.

 

Regards

Vanessa Smith - Lloyds TSB - Service Recovery

Birmingham

 

:smile:

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14:03h 17 August 2006

Hello MR BURR

Thanks for taking the time to apply.

Sorry to disappoint you, but we can't open this account for you.

Whenever we consider new applications we use a process called 'credit scoring', a commonly used method for banks to assess new applications. From the information you gave us on your application form, you didn't meet our criteria for this account.

We may have also used information from our credit reference agency, Experian. But don't worry - that doesn't necessarily mean you've got a bad credit rating. You may find it helpful to contact the credit reference agency we used to help us reach our decision. They will be able to provide you with a copy of your credit report. The quickest and easiest way to do this is by telephone or online:

On line (24hours, 7 days a week) Credit Reports: Get your Credit Report from Experian UK - £2.00

By phone (24 hours 7 days a week) 0870 241 6212 - £2.50

However, you're still able to obtain a copy of your report by post by sending a cheque for £2.00 to Experian Consumer Help Desk, Experian Ltd, PO Box 8000, Nottingham NG80 7WF. Remember to include your current and any previous address.

Thank anyway Smile.. :evil:

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Called my local branch to chase up my request for my Bank Statements for the last 6 years. (22nd August 2006 at 15:35pm) (its been 10 days now and my cheque has NOT been cashed)

Spoke to a very helpful lady who called Birmingham to see how my application was going. She said she could not get confirmation Birmingham was processing my request as they are very, VERY busy.

However, she did personally request my statements for me and said they will be delivered in 4 working days.

Wahoo...:D

So, I should have them by Wednesday 30th August.

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Mr posty came this morning and dropped 16 letters on my mat from lloyds. (Thursday 24th August 8:07am)

 

Statements dating from 01 Aug 2001 - July 2006 (missing out half of 2005 and all of 2004)

 

Maybe I will get some more tomorrow.

 

I'll keep you all posted. :oops:

 

Also, can anyone tell me if Lloyds HAVE supplied 6 years worth of statement history. I spoke to somebody at Lloyds today who said they only KEEP 5 YEARS of transaction history in their archives.

 

Thanks again to you all.

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Thanks for your speedy response feralkat. Much appreciated. :)

Also, when you received your statements, was it all in one big letter/parcel.. or did you receive 30 different letters all in chronological order.

I only ask as I'm thinking I may have to hassel lloyds for the bits they miss out.

Thanks for your time.

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Received 14 more statements in the post (Friday 25th August at 8:00am). :)

Totalling 30 dating from 17th October 2001 to 4th August 2006.

Charges totalling £824.00 (excluding the addition of the 8% APR column on the standard Excel spreadsheet :? ) have been levied on my account.

Just need statements dating back to August 2000 now.

So we wait...

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I have also been charged nearly £900 in Over Draft Interest. Has anyone sought re-payment for this and succeeded?

 

Also a consolidation loan of £1500 was advised by Lloyds. This was to reduce my monthly charges I was receiving :| (which I paid off early)

 

Can I get these charges back? or If I am not allowed them back, and claim for them nevertheless, will the bank just offer a settlement THEY think I am owed?

 

Or will they just follow it through the courts and battle with me 'til the death :shock:

 

Ill ask about "contractual interest" as soon as I know what i'm claiming for... :D

 

Thanks to all for your help.

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I suppose my question is; Will Lloyds defend and actually go to court if your claim seems unreasonable.

 

I am looking to claim back, my charges (bounced D/D, O/D Excess Fees (£840 so far)) and the interest they charged me on my overdraft (£900 ish) and the consolidation loan of £1500.

 

Adds up to a fair bit. Whats everyones thoughts on this?

 

I am unsure on how to prove that the charges they made took me overdrawn.. as I have been overdrawn pretty much for 6 whole years :(

 

I have had my lloyds account for 9 years now...

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I will be claiming my Charges (£854.50) + OverDraft Interest (£874.80) only.

 

Prelim being sent tomorrow, recorded delivery.

 

Where is everyone sending their Prelim's please.

 

Ta.

 

AshleyBurr.com

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Hi Ashley,

 

Sorry noone's got back to you sooner - as you've no doubt noticed this place can get a bit busy sometimes.

 

There may well be precedent to go after the consolidation loan amount - I seem to recall a thread in the Lloyds forum no less where someone added a £10,000 consolidation loan to their charges - and Lloyds paid up. http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/lloyds-bank/5584-janeyb-lloyds-massive-settlement.html is the thread.

 

I sent my Prelim to the 125 Colmore Row - Birmingham address. Should do the trick :)

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Thanks for the response reload. :)

 

Decided not to claim for the loan.. went for all charges plus overdraft interest :p (£1700).

 

Prelim was sent Saturday 9th September (recorded) they must have got it Monday 11th and I had a reply today (Tuesday 12th) with the " How sorry they are that i'm unhappy" and the "Voicing my concerns" leaflet. Nice turnaround. :rolleyes:

 

So on the 26th LBA goes off.

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Lol.....I also got the £10.00 worth of statements from the Copy Centre. All of a year and a half of it.. it was pathetic.

 

I received all my statements way before, just by asking my branch to call the copy centre and request them.

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Hi AshleyB,

 

I noticed you say you've claimed £874.80 O/D interest. Just to check - you do know you can only claim the O/D interest that has been applied on top of and as a direct result of each unlawful charge, yes? You can't just claim ALL the O/D interest (unless ALL of it is due to unlawful charges, of course!). Apologies if you know this already, its just that the figure seems far to high to me.

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Of that I am aware. I'm just going to ask for it nevertheless. See what they say.

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Its up to you of course, but its not advisable. I can't see a judge being to impressed and even if it did'nt get that far, don't kid yourself that they won't notice. If you want to claim more and your feeling confidant, read up on contractual interest in the general forum and go for that instead. If you do though, make sure you fully understand the logic and issues involved first.

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Hi again Ashley,

 

I have to reiterate what Gary has just said. I strongly recommend you do not file for the full overdraft interest when you file your claim with the courts. It could lead to your claim being struck out, as the proportion of the overdraft interest not applied to penalty charges is perfectly lawful and valid.

 

That said, if you do decide to go ahead, good luck.

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