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    • Received a final demand today Final demand.pdf
    • Here is my final draft: I, XXXXXX, being the Defendant in this case will state as follows; I make this Witness Statement in support of my defence in the claim and further to my set aside application dated 1 November 2022. The claimants witness statement confirms that it mostly relies on hearsay evidence as confirmed by the drafts in person in the opening paragraph. It is my understanding they must serve notice to any hearsay evidence pursuant to CPR 33.2(1)(B) (notice of intention to rely on hearsay evidence) and Section 2 (1) (A) of the Civil Evidence Act.   1.        The claimant failed to comply with the additional directions ordered by District Judge Davis on the 2 February 2024 'The Claim shall be automatically struck out at 4pm on 3 April 2024 unless the Claimant delivers to the Court and to the Defendant the following documents.' None of these documents were received by the court nor the defendant by that date.   2.        I understand that the claimant is an Assignee, a buyer of defunct or bad debts, which are bought on mass portfolios at a much reduced cost to the amount claimed and which the original creditors have already wrote off as a capital loss and claimed against taxable income as confirmed in the claimants witness statement exhibit by way of the Deed of Assignment.   As an assignee or creditor as defined in section 189 of the CCA this applies to this new requirement on assignment of rights.  This means that when an assignee purchases debts (or otherwise acquires rights under a credit agreement) it also acquires certain obligations to the borrower including the duty to comply with CCA requirements (such as the rules on statements and notices and other post-contractual information).  The assignee becomes the creditor under the agreement. This ensures that essential consumer protections under the CCA cannot be circumvented by assigning the debt to a third party.   3.        The alleged letter of claim dated 7 January 2020 was served to a previous address which I moved out of in 2018, no effort was made to ascertain my correct address.  I have attached a copy of my tenancy agreement which is marked ‘Appendix 1’ and shows I was residing at a difference address as of 11 December 2018 and was therefore not at the service address at the time the proceedings were served.  I have also attached an email from my solicitors to the Claimants solicitors dated 14 July 2022 which was sent to them requesting that they disclose the trace of evidence they utilised prior to issuing the proceedings against me.  This is marked ‘Appendix 2’.  The claimants solicitors did not provide me with these documents.   4.        Under The Pre-Action Protocol for Debt Claims 2017 a Debt Buyer must undertake all reasonable enquiries to ensure the correct address of a debtor, this can be as simple as a credit file search. The Claimant failed to carry out such basic checks. Subsequently all letters prior to and including ,The Pre action Protocol letter of claim dated 7 January 2020 and the claim form dated 14th February 2020 were all served to a previous address which I moved out of in 2018.   5.        I became aware of original Judgement following a routine credit check on or around 14th September 2020.   6.        Upon the discovery of the Judgement debt, I made immediate contact with the Court and the Claimant Solicitors, putting them on notice that I was making investigations in relation to the Judgement debt as it was not familiar to me.  I asked them to provide me with a copy of the original loan agreement but this was not provided to me.   The correspondence to the Claimant Solicotors is attached and marked ‘Appendix 3’   7.        I then sent a Data Subject Access Request to Barclays but no agreement was provided. Details the timeline of communication between myself and Barclays are attached and marked ‘Appendix 4’and the copies of correspondence between myself and Barclays are attached and marked ‘Appendix 5’.   8.        The claimant relies upon and exhibits a reconstituted version of the alleged agreement.   It is again denied that I have ever entered into an agreement with Barclaycard on or around 2000.  It is admitted that I did hold other credit agreements with other creditors and as such should this be a debt that was assigned to Barclaycard from another brand therefore the reconstituted agreement disclosed is invalid being pre April 2007 and not legally enforceable pursuant to HH Judge Waksman in Carey v HSBC 2009 EWHC3417.  Details of this are attached and marked ‘Appendix 6’.   The original credit agreement must be provided along with any reconstituted version on a modified credit agreement and must contain the names and address of debtor and creditor, agreement number and cancelation clause.   9.        Therefore the claimant is put to strict proof to disclose a true executed legible agreement on which its claim relies upon and not try to mislead the court.   10.   As per CPR 1.4(2)(a) the court encourages parties to cooperate with each other in the conduct of proceedings in order to try and save time and costs for the parties and to also save the time and resources of the court however, despite vast attempts at mediation the claimants have been most unreasonable and have remained unwilling to mediate. Until such time the claimant can comply and disclose a true executed copy of the original assigned agreement they refer to within the particulars of this claim they are not entitled while the default continues, to enforce the agreement pursuant to section 78.6 (a) of the Credit Consumer Act 1974. I believe that the facts stated in this Witness Statement are true.  I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth. Signed                 ………………………………………………….. Name                  XXXX Date                     30 April 2024
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    • Hi folks, I've just found previous documentation. I thought it had gone missing. I'd forgotten that I did appeal it through POPLA but I can't find the thread on here that, I assume, I posted for help. Appeal letter is dated 27/10/2020 with a rejection. I genuinely had forgotten about this so apologies for misleading you. A lot has happened in the years since the ticket was issued. We closed down a couple of businesses and moved to the opposite end of the country to retire. The documents I have are scanned copies. I no longer have the originals. The NTK is also in there. If there's anything you'd like to see, please let me know and I'll post them, although it probably won't be until tomorrow now, but I'll be looking in on this page tonight. Thank you for the responses so far
    • Hello! After emailing them I received this reply:   I have drafted the following, please would you be able to comment as to if you think it is correct/sufficient? "Thank you for your email.   Thanks you for confirming that the vehicle does not have these features as stated in the advertisement.    I am sure you are aware that the Consumer Rights Act 2015 provides the short term right to reject within 30 days. Statutory rights cannot be taken away from a consumer, and any attempt to do so is illegal.   Please can you advise how best to return the vehicle?" Thanks in advance!
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I would like to add my experiences of charging orders.

 

I admitted a debt and a CCJ was recorded against me. I always paid what the judge had said I should. The creditor took me to court again for a charging order, I defended it but the judge ruled in the creditors favour and a charging order was placed on my house. At the time I was on benefits, my circumstances hadn't changed and I always paid what I was supposed to.

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what was the debt for and how much?

 

It was a credit card debt for 18K.

 

From my own bitter experience I know that charging orders are granted even though the debtor is paying a CCJ

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The Office of Fair Trading: OFT warns debt sector about tracing tactics

 

7. The fact that requirements have been imposed on Link appears on the consumer credit register. Download a copy of the requirements imposed (pdf 45 kb). We will monitor Link's compliance with the requirements. Any complaints about non-compliance should be sent to:

 

Enquiries

Office of Fair Trading

Fleetbank House

2-6 Salisbury Square

London

EC4Y 8JX

 

[email protected]

 

 

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thanks,

 

in normal circumstances the courts will not issue charging orders simply because the creditor asks for them, especially when payments are being kept

 

however, as i suspected the argument s put forward b the creditors would undoubtedly have been to the fact that at 11 per month it would be 60 years before the debt was repaid and the chances quite high 9if not 100%) that before than time you would have disposed of the property!!

 

I'm not siding with them - i was just curious as to why the order would have been granted given that the payments were being made

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Hi diddydicky, you are right in your thinking, in my case the creditor did not like the fact that it would have taken 44 years to repay debt at the monthly amount agreed by the Judge at the CCJ hearing ( but I did state that in the not to distant future I would be able to pay in full). At the second hearing the Judge said that nothing had changed and threw the case out but told me that he had granted the creditors wishes on other occasions mostly when not defended.

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good evening to all,

 

i have rec'd a response from Link regarding the CCA letter and "because they do not always hold the documentation, they have requested a copy from MBNA." They go on to advise me that this can take up to 30 days.

 

I thought it was 12 +2 days, no extras.

 

Do I now send a dispute letter to confirm my position just in case they try anything else and I am thinking that if i send one, it could be produced later if required.

 

any thoughts or comments greatly appreciated...

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i have found this on another thread (thanks to 42man) and was thinking of sending it when their 12+2 days is up, any thoughts anyone?

 

 

Account In Dispute

 

Ref: xxxxxxxxxxx

 

Dear Sir/Madam

 

Thank you for your letter of xx/xx/xx, the contents of which have been noted.

 

You have failed to respond to my legal request to supply me a true copy of the original Consumer Credit Agreement for the above account.

 

On **DATE** I made a formal request for a true signed agreement for the alleged account under consumer credit Act 1974 s77/8. A copy of which is enclosed for your perusal and ease of reference.

You have failed to comply with my request, and as such the account entered default on **DATE**.

 

The document that you are obliged to send me is a true copy of the executed agreement that contained all of the prescribed terms, all other required terms and statutory notices and was signed by both your company and myself as defined in section 61(1) of CCA 74 and subsequent Statutory Instruments. If the executed agreement contained any reference to any other document, you are also obliged to send me a copy of that document.In addition a full statement of this account should have been sent to me detailing all debits and credits to the account.

 

Furthermore

 

You are aware that the Consumer Credit Act allows 12 working days for a request for a true copy of a credit agreement to be carried out before your client enters into a default situation.

 

This limit has expired.

 

As you are no doubt aware section 77(6) states:

 

If the creditor fails to comply with Subsection (1)

 

(a) He is not entitled , while the default continues, to enforce the agreement.

 

Therefore this account has become unenforceable at law.

 

As you have Failed to comply with a lawful request for a true, signed copy of the said agreement and other relevant documents mentioned in it, Failed to send a full statement of the account and Failed to provide any of the documentation requested.

 

Consequentially any legal action you pursue will be averred as both UNLAWFUL and VEXATIOUS.

 

Furthermore I shall counterclaim that any such action constitutes unlawful harassment.

 

Please note you may also consider this letter as a statutory notice under section 10 of the Data Protection Act to cease processing any data in relation to this account with immediate effect.

 

This means you must remove all information regarding this account from your own internal records and from my records with any credit reference agencies.

 

Should you refuse to comply, you must within 21 days provide me with a detailed breakdown of your reasoning behind continuing to process my data.

 

It is not sufficient to simply state that you have a ‘legal right’; You must outline your reasoning in this matter and state upon which legislation this reasoning depends.

 

Should you not respond within 14 days I expect that this means you agree to remove all such data.

 

Furthermore you should be aware that a creditor is not permitted to take ANY

Action against an account whilst it remains in dispute.

 

The lack of a credit agreement is a very clear dispute and as such the following applies.

 

* You may not demand any payment on the account, nor am I obliged to offer any payment to you.

* You may not add further interest or any charges to the account.

* You may not pass the account to a third party.

* You may not register any information in respect of the account with any credit reference agency.

* You may not issue a default notice related to the account.

 

 

I reserve the right to report your actions to any such regulatory authorities as I see fit.

You have 14 days from receiving this letter to contact me with your intentions to resolve this matter which is now a formal complaint.

 

I would appreciate your due diligence in this matter.

 

I look forward to hearing from you in writing.

 

Yours faithfully

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If its now over the 14 days I would personally would send the dispute letter that way you are showing them that you know what your talking about. With me they produced an agreement for years before the date they said on the court papers I knew they didn't have anything in writing for the date they claimed.

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good morning Diamondgirl

 

thank you for the reply, they have a couple of days before their time is up, my thoughts were to send it the day after that and then just sit back and wait for a response...

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Good Morning Scuba

 

What a nice day it is last day of freedom for me today I've actually managed to get a job - goodbye JSA.

 

Yes I would send the dispute letter the day after as you say and sit back and see what they can produce.

 

MBNA don't seem to have a good record from what I read on the forum and the monkeys are just as bad but a lousy co. to deal with. A weaker person would just give in to them I know how it has affected me.

 

I've not heard from them for a few weeks now so I assume they are trying to plot something. They've probably run out of bananas to throw and dummies to spit out so I suppose they've only got their feet to stamp and go stand in a corner and throw a tamtrum.

 

Have a nice day while the sun is shining.

 

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Good Morning Scuba

 

What a nice day it is last day of freedom for me today I've actually managed to get a job - goodbye JSA.

DG:D

 

Yes congratulations DG, hope your first day went well:D

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Yes congratulations DG, hope your first day went well:D

 

Unfortunately it appears after 8hours not to be the most fantastic of jobs, I'm still going to look for something better I might be round the twist by the end of the week.

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Well day 2 wasn't that much better. Anyway it's a debt elimination co. so they say. They charge you a percentage of what they get written off for you but you have to go into a DMP with them. They do PPI for you as well if you want to go down that road. Got to be given a talk through about how the debt works - as if I need to be told that. At least it's NOT a DCA. Won't go into it too much just in case they read this site, you never know. It's a job but I'm still looking.

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Good evening to all,

 

Just a quick update on recent events. CCA time limit ran out a couple of weeks ago so I sent the "account in dispute" letter along with the telephone harrassment letters (they seem to have worked, no more calls at home or in the office).

 

I have now received a letter from them acknowledging my complaint (what complaint?) and that they will contact me within the next 4 weeks.

 

Apart from that all has been quiet.

 

Thank you to everybody for your help and assistance, i'm sure that this is not the end of the matter but at least the phone has stopped ringing.

 

DG, I hope the new job is going well and you are settling in OK.

 

Best regards. . . . . . . . . .

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"DG, I hope the new job is going well and you are settling in OK."

 

Hi Glad everything is going well with you.

 

New job is absolutely xxxxxx well I can't put it here otherwise it will get editted out.

 

DG:)

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