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    • just to be clear here..... the DVLA do not send letters if a drivers licence address differs from any car's V5C that shows the same driver as it's registered keeper.
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    • Hopefully the ANPR cameras didn't pick up the two vehicles, but I don't think you're out of the woods just yet. MET's "work" consists of sending out hundreds of these invoices every week so yours might be a few days behind your partner's. There is also the matter of Royal Mail.  I once sold two second-hand books to someone on eBay.  Weirdly the cost of sending them separately was less than the cost of sending them in one parcel.  So to save a few bob I sent them seperately.  One turned up the next day.  One arrived after four days.  They were  sent from the same post office at the same time! But let's hope I'm being too pessimistic. Please update us of any developments.
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Hi Milly - Soz hunny, not been online properly for few days as littl'un poorly so didn't realise ur post!! I think The G/M & S/H have the right idea, although i am not quite confident enough yet to give huge advice to others, i think that what they have agreed seems the best option, i would probably file it away & keep it nice so that you have it to show a judge etc if nec' in the future! I sent off a copy of the letter Rory drafted for me last week but obviously haven't heard anything yet, unless a reply comes in the post this morn!

Take care & let us know if anything else turns up! Mpols x

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I agree with Godmother. Ignore them until you get a letter. I had Cap1 ignore me for months then i sent a Section 10 Notice and 2 days later they passed it to a DCA who gave me loads of hassle and rubbish. Should have let them continue to ignore me! :)

 

I had DML for a while. CCA'd them and they ignored it and then they sent a letter stating they were preparing Court action so i said great, bring it on. I had nothing from them so wrote and asked where the Court papers were, that i was preparing my defence and was looking forward to the Hearing date. They replied "sorry, those Court threats were sent 'in error'" and we are "passing the account back to the creditor." :)

 

 

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You have said the last thing you want to do is wake them up.

 

Dont you think if you was to send them a letter that it would wake them up as they would have to look at the account and then further reply to the letter.

 

Personally i think that that is classed as waking them up more than ignoring them.

 

Any way i have only said ignore them until they send a letter demanding money as then you can hit them with unenforcability and then you can report them to TS and the OFT.

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Hi Milly - Soz hunny, not been online properly for few days as littl'un poorly so didn't realise ur post!! I think The G/M & S/H have the right idea, although i am not quite confident enough yet to give huge advice to others, i think that what they have agreed seems the best option, i would probably file it away & keep it nice so that you have it to show a judge etc if nec' in the future! I sent off a copy of the letter Rory drafted for me last week but obviously haven't heard anything yet, unless a reply comes in the post this morn!

Take care & let us know if anything else turns up! Mpols x

 

Ps, Thanks Godmother & Scabhunter for jumping in! ;) xx

 

 

Hope you are feeling better hunny! Thanks godmother et al:)

 

Well yesterday I got what looked like a payslip with tear open bits all round it from debt managers saying we wish to confirm our appointment. we will call between 5.30pm and 7.30pm:mad:

I do not think so. I am gonna send the doorstep collector letter. They can p** off if they think I agree to them coming round my house. Also in the pile of letters yesterday was another letter from Debt managers saying they want to give me a substantial discount. i was laughing my head off again :D:D I was thinking of 0.00p!!! ha

 

 

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Evening peeps - Just a quickie to update that has been Just over a week now! No reponse so far! Is sooooo quiet...They don't call, they don't write.....:p

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:DEllo peeps - Just an update to let (Rory) know that response today in form of letter stating will accept the £1 pcm payment offer on the basis of the template you sorted for me - Many thanks indeed! Take care, Mpols x

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Hi mpols,

Hope you are all well.

A pound a month. Good result.

With a little luck they'll leave you alone for a while.

 

take care.

 

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nice result u could have not hoped for a better one except a rite of but hey its only £1.00 a month

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hi mystic et al,:)

 

 

I received a letter from debt managers today to say they have closed their file and sent back to next directory. they also confirm tha NO FURTHER action will be taken by them????

 

Blinky bill this was postdated 19th december. my letter about doorstop visitors only arrived yesterday? :confused:

 

What do you thinks happened?

 

 

me thinks they know they havd no hope and passed it back;)

 

 

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MillyMollyMoo 1-Debt Managers 0 :D

 

Haven't seen Mpols on for a few days but she'll be chuffed for you.

 

Another one bites the dust.

 

You'll get a bit of peace for a while so enjoy it :D

 

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Hiya Fox:D

 

Til after xmas I suppose then next will send ' you owe...blah..blah..' be interesting who they will send it to now as one debt collector won't touch it;)

 

thanks once again. Wishing lots of luck for mystic:)

 

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:p Merry crimbo eve to all of yous!!!

So so soz not been online few days - Been mad here with youngun's & bdays & fam visiting etc - But am Fox is right Milly, Am chuffed for you!

& Yep, this £1 a month that has been accepted is brill for hubby rather than what it was previously & until they provide the paperwork it is all they will be getting - Am waiting to see if they pass it on now ha ha! Anyway, am hoping every1 is well & relatively happy & has a fab few days!

Big hugs, Mpols x

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Hey mystic :D sounded great fun!

 

I went away for acouple of days with my two kids and O/H. Back with a razor blade throat and deaf ears at the mo!!!!

 

Received another letter from debt managers again, confirming no further action by them on PROPER nice paper this time!!! {yes I understood the first time!!!!]

 

I am waiting for the next {{{ha ha get it!!!}}}} round of who calls me!!!!

 

Milly XXX

 

P.S Happy New Year!!!!:D

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Hi Milly (happens to be my youngests' name ;)) Mayb they sent u another copy to try and get u to repond? i dunno - Think i would just file it away with all the others hun.

Hope u feel better soon - Happy new year to you too. Mpols x

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Had a call from these a couple of days ago all out of the blue - am waiting for their letter as refused to deal over the phone - assumming they will be wanting to reassess the £1 a month that they are having at the moment - In light of no agreement plus no default or NOA ever being received i think thats ALL they will be getting if not less for a lonnnnng time! Hope everyone is well. Mpols x

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hi mpols.

 

Well that was outta the blue as u said. Stand ur ground plead poverty if u must.

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"Stand ur ground plead poverty if u must" - Hi Gm, How are you? We intend to stand our ground as much as possible - and pleading poverty won't be much of a falsehood at the moment anyway to be honest! We'll see what they have to say when any letters are received - maybe they have found the actual agreement at last? ya never know! Take care, Mpols x

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hi Mpols.

 

I am fine.

 

If they get funny just tell tehm take me to court they will set the amount and they cant set it at £1.00 a month.

OFT debt collection guidance

 

Please remember the only stupid question is the one you dont ask so dont worry about asking the stupid questions.

 

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