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I'm seeking permission. I've attached the order here. The only slight issue is the Judge's handwriting for the original appeal is honestly near impossible to read. I've asked for the reasons in typed format but I'm awaiting a response. D(0453153.SKAL) redacted.pdf -
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Certainly Are you seeking permission or has it been granted ? . -
it doesnt say that anywhere but I did think so. Ill pop up a draft if you can look over it?
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By purple_rain · Posted
@dx100uk I tried to put the door numbers of the neighbours who offered to take it in but neither were available on the drop down despite us all sharing the same postcode. You cannot free type an address in the neighbour selection. In the end I did select a house number of a neighbour which was available (46) but I also wrote 52 in the free text of a safe place called "other" hoping the driver would read. They had the option of 2 neighbours to deliver it to. Front porch is a specific option which I did not select. I have to say I'm a little surprised with your stance on the matter but it's your opinion I guess.
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We have finally managed to obtain the transcript of this case.
The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.
Frankly I don't think that is any accident.
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