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    • further polished WS using above suggestions and also included couple of more modifications highlighted in orange are those ok to include?   Background   1.1  The Defendant received the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) on the 06th of January 2020 following the vehicle being parked at Arla Old Dairy, South Ruislip on the 05th of December 2019.   Unfair PCN   2.1  On 19th December 2023 the Defendant sent the Claimant's solicitors a CPR request.  As shown in Exhibit 1 (pages 7-13) sent by the solicitors the signage displayed in their evidence clearly shows a £60.00 parking charge notice (which will be reduced to £30 if paid within 14 days of issue).  2.2  Yet the PCN sent by the Claimant is for a £100.00 parking charge notice (reduced to £60 if paid within 30 days of issue).   2.3        The Claimant relies on signage to create a contract.  It is unlawful for the Claimant to write that the charge is £60 on their signs and then send demands for £100.    2.4        The unlawful £100 charge is also the basis for the Claimant's Particulars of Claim.  No Locus Standi  3.1  I do not believe a contract with the landowner, that is provided following the defendant’s CPR request, gives MET Parking Services a right to bring claims in their own name. Definition of “Relevant contract” from the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4,  2 [1] means a contract Including a contract arising only when the vehicle was parked on the relevant land between the driver and a person who is-   (a) the owner or occupier of the land; or   (b) Authorised, under or by virtue of arrangements made by the owner or occupier of the land, to enter into a contract with the driver requiring the payment of parking charges in respect of the parking of the vehicle on the land. According to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/section/44   For a contract to be valid, it requires a director from each company to sign and then two independent witnesses must confirm those signatures.   3.2  The Defendant requested to see such a contract in the CPR request.  The fact that no contract has been produced with the witness signatures present means the contract has not been validly executed. Therefore, there can be no contract established between MET Parking Services and the motorist. Even if “Parking in Electric Bay” could form a contract (which it cannot), it is immaterial. There is no valid contract.  Illegal Conduct – No Contract Formed   4.1 At the time of writing, the Claimant has failed to provide the following, in response to the CPR request from myself.   4.2        The legal contract between the Claimant and the landowner (which in this case is Standard Life Investments UK) to provide evidence that there is an agreement in place with landowner with the necessary authority to issue parking charge notices and to pursue payment by means of litigation.   4.3 Proof of planning permission granted for signage etc under the Town and country Planning Act 1990. Lack of planning permission is a criminal offence under this Act and no contract can be formed where criminality is involved.   4.4        I also do not believe the claimant possesses these documents.   No Keeper Liability   5.1        The defendant was not the driver at the time and date mentioned in the PCN and the claimant has not established keeper liability under schedule 4 of the PoFA 2012. In this matter, the defendant puts it to the claimant to produce strict proof as to who was driving at the time.   5.2 The claimant in their Notice To Keeper also failed to comply with PoFA 2012 Schedule 4 section 9[2][f] while mentioning “the right to recover from the keeper so much of that parking charge as remains unpaid” where they did not include statement “(if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met)”.     5.3         The claimant did not mention parking period, times on the photographs are separate from the PCN and in any case are that arrival and departure times not the parking period since their times include driving to and from the parking space as a minimum and can include extra time to allow pedestrians and other vehicles to pass in front.    Protection of Freedoms Act 2012   The notice must -   (a) specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;  22. In the persuasive judgement K4GF167G - Premier Park Ltd v Mr Mathur - Horsham County Court – 5 January 2024 it was on this very point that the judge dismissed this claim.  5.4  A the PCN does not comply with the Act the Defendant as keeper is not liable.  No Breach of Contract   6.1       No breach of contract occurred because the PCN and contract provided as part of the defendant’s CPR request shows different post code, PCN shows HA4 0EY while contract shows HA4 0FY. According to PCN defendant parked on HA4 0EY which does not appear to be subject to the postcode covered by the contract.  6.2         The entrance sign does not mention anything about there being other terms inside the car park so does not offer a contract which makes it only an offer to treat,  Interest  7.1  It is unreasonable for the Claimant to delay litigation for  Double Recovery   7.2  The claim is littered with made-up charges.  7.3  As noted above, the Claimant's signs state a £60 charge yet their PCN is for £100.  7.4  As well as the £100 parking charge, the Claimant seeks recovery of an additional £70.  This is simply a poor attempt to circumvent the legal costs cap at small claims.  7.5 Since 2019, many County Courts have considered claims in excess of £100 to be an abuse of process leading to them being struck out ab initio. An example, in the Caernarfon Court in VCS v Davies, case No. FTQZ4W28 on 4th September 2019, District Judge Jones-Evans stated “Upon it being recorded that District Judge Jones- Evans has over a very significant period of time warned advocates (...) in many cases of this nature before this court that their claim for £60 is unenforceable in law and is an abuse of process and is nothing more than a poor attempt to go behind the decision of the Supreme Court v Beavis which inter alia decided that a figure of £160 as a global sum claimed in this case would be a penalty and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss and therefore unenforceable in law and if the practice continued, he would treat all cases as a claim for £160 and therefore a penalty and unenforceable in law it is hereby declared (…) the claim is struck out and declared to be wholly without merit and an abuse of process.”  7.6 In Claim Nos. F0DP806M and F0DP201T, District Judge Taylor echoed earlier General Judgment or Orders of District Judge Grand, stating ''It is ordered that the claim is struck out as an abuse of process. The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the Defendant contracted to pay. This additional charge is not recoverabl15e under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4 nor with reference to the judgment in Parking Eye v Beavis. It is an abuse of process from the Claimant to issue a knowingly inflated claim for an additional sum which it is not entitled to recover. This order has been made by the court of its own initiative without a hearing pursuant to CPR Rule 3.3(4)) of the Civil Procedure Rules 1998...''  7.7 In the persuasive case of G4QZ465V - Excel Parking Services Ltd v Wilkinson – Bradford County Court -2 July 2020 (Exhibit 4) the judge had decided that Excel had won. However, due to Excel adding on the £60 the Judge dismissed the case.  7.8        The addition of costs not previously specified on signage are also in breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015, Schedule 2, specifically paras 6, 10 and 14.   7.9        It is the Defendant’s position that the Claimant in this case has knowingly submitted inflated costs and thus the entire claim should be similarly struck out in accordance with Civil Procedure Rule 3.3(4).   In Conclusion   8.1        I invite the court to dismiss the claim.  Statement of Truth  I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.   
    • Well the difference is that in all our other cases It was Kev who was trying to entrap the motorist so sticking two fingers up to him and daring him to try court was from a position of strength. In your case, sorry, you made a mistake so you're not in the position of strength.  I've looked on Google Maps and the signs are few & far between as per Kev's MO, but there is an entrance sign saying "Pay & Display" (and you've admitted in writing that you knew you had to pay) and the signs by the payment machines do say "Sea View Car Park" (and you've admitted in writing you paid the wrong car park ... and maybe outed yourself as the driver). Something I missed in my previous post is that the LoC is only for one ticket, not two. Sorry, but it's impossible to definitively advise what to so. Personally I'd probably gamble on Kev being a serial bottler of court and reply with a snotty letter ridiculing the signage (given you mentioned the signage in your appeal) - but it is a gamble.  
    • No! What has happened is that your pix were up-to-date: 5 hours' maximum stay and £100 PCN. The lazy solicitors have sent ancient pictures: 4 hours' maximum stay and £60 PCN. Don't let on!  Let them be hoisted by their own lazy petard in the court hearing (if they don't bottle before).
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I think it fair to say that there is 'no smoke without fire', if Karn did not genuinely feel that her character has been besmirched then why commence proceedings.

 

What a twazzle. For some reason he returns just to cause an argument.

 

I think it unfair of BW for blowing this off as 'much ado about nothing' and from what I can see any aggression is sadly mostly one way and from this site.
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IMHO BF and Dave should apologise and bring the matter to a close.
They have NEVER asked for an opinion, so why do you think anybody cares about yours.

 

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Set up a meeting buy Sharon lunch and then apologise. Job done everyone move on.
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Oh dear here we go again :rolleyes: If I was Bank Fodder I would be starting to get a bit ****ed off with this trial by forum.

 

The people involved know whats happening and thats enough.

 

I second that emotion.........Now Put up people, or SHUT UP.

 

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We have nearly 200,000 registered users, who all seem to have an opinion, but the truth is that no more than a couple of dozen users know the whole story.

When it occurred, I was a mere Site Helper so was not a party to the whole facts. Since then, as a moderator I have learned a bit more about it, but by no means all of it.

As Bookie said, earlier in the thread, the action was NOT brought by the LB site, it was brought by one person who happens to be associated with that site....... There is a difference.

When I see some of the comments in this thread, I begin to wonder where the loyalties of the posters lie.

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Some of the posts are very reminiscent of "Lord Haw-Haw" during WW2.

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My point is made just with this one post, unnecessary name calling and banal rhetoric.:rolleyes:

 

I said on another thread I'm not having a pop, I did not return for an argument as this implies I have been away, which I haven't and I'm not:p

 

I am entitled to an opinion until the time my membership of this forum is removed.

 

When it comes to the running of this site, I will support CAG, Dave, Marc and the site helpers I think worthy. I see no merit in getting involved in something that should be a private affair

 

I do not like the way that posters are vilified by those that think themselves clever just because they disagree with their point of view.:cool:

 

I think I'll choose neither options of 'put up or shut up' thanks.:wink:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What a twazzle. For some reason he returns just to cause an argument.

 

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They have NEVER asked for an opinion, so why do you think anybody cares about yours.

 

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Let ME cook it.

 

 

 

I second that emotion.........Now Put up people, or SHUT UP.

 

 

 

Unfortunately, some always will.

 

I find it sad how easily some people forget what they have gained from this site.

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It's already happening. members being moderated when they haven't broken site rules. A crap moderation policy, unfair application of the policy, no way of appeal.

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It's already happening. members being moderated when they haven't broken site rules. A crap moderation policy, unfair application of the policy, no way of appeal.

 

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No members are moderated unless they have broken site rules.

The moderation policy is just fine thanks.

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Moderation policy may be as you say, from painful experience I can't agree with your comment on rights of appeal.:p

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zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

 

IMO all this post is intended to do is inflame and should be removed.

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Conar i think sod'em posted that because he's bored now with people joining the site just to inflame and cause trouble

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now, now dear children - i turn my back for a second and you all start scrapping again......

i thought this old chestnut was worn out last month...........

it's none of my business (and most everything else is!)

so i will not be stirring - i will just get on with the business at hand and also add my bits of other stuff to the bear garden -

anyone else want to play?

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now, now dear children - i turn my back for a second and you all start scrapping again......

i thought this old chestnut was worn out last month...........

it's none of my business (and most everything else is!)

so i will not be stirring - i will just get on with the business at hand and also add my bits of other stuff to the bear garden -

anyone else want to play?

hello Latty.

 

good to see you... hows things :D

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hiya crushy (my secret lover!), things are good - just applied for my 58 pence back from icesave (plus interest!),

haven't been keeping up much - so it's just the cheerleading section for me -

hope you are too crunched by this credit crunchy thingy going on!

i just hope people are ok - cuz the same people who benefit from this site are probably the same ones who are looking down the barrel of the repossesion gun. wish i could wave a magic wand and help people out.

don't want to sound like x factor hopefuls but i have two friends who are battling breast cancer at the moment - and one has missed 3 mortgage payments and is in grave danger of loosing her home.

sort of puts a lot of this crap (sorry!!!!) into perspective.

 

you take care, big guy - you know i love ya!

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don't know - i will find out tomorrow

i know she only worked less than 16 hrs before her surgery and has now been off for 16 weeks and isn't getting anything.

i hadn't been in touch lately and only found out when putting other friend in touch with her to answer some questions about second friend's surgery coming up on the 27th about her missing payments. was going to ring tomorrow and try to get a fuller picture -

i will post again when i know more - thanks for caring

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