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    • Particular's of claim for reference only 1. the claim is for the sum of £6163.61due by the defendant under an agreement regulated by the consumer credit act 1974 for hsbc uk bank plc. Account (16 digits) 2. The defendant failed to maintain contractual payments required by the agreement and a default notice was served under s 87(1)  of the consumer credit act 1974 which as not been compiled with. 3. The debt was legally assigned to the Claimant on 23/08/23, notice on which as been given to the defendant.  4. The claim includes statutory interest under S.69 of the county courts act 1984 at a rate of 8% per annum from the date of assignment to the date of issue of these proceedings in the sum of £117.53 the Claimant claims the sum of £6281.14. Suggested defence 1. The Defendant contends the particulars of the claim are generic in nature. The Defendant accordingly sets out its case below and relies on CPR r 16.3 (3) in relation to any particular allegation to which a specific response has not been made. 2. The claimant has not complied with paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre action protocol) failed to serve a letter of claim pre claim pursuant to PAPDC changes of the 1st of October 2017. It is respectfully requested that the court take this into consideration pursuant 7.1 PAPDC. 3. Paragraph 1 is noted. I have in the past had financial dealings but do not recognise this specific account number or recollect any outstanding debt and have therefore requested clarification. 4. Paragraph 2 is denied. I have not been served with a default notice pursuant to the consumer credit act 1974. 5. Paragraph 3 is denied. i am unaware of any legal assignment or notice of assignment. A copy of assignment was sent by Overdales solicitors when acknowledgement of receipt of CPR request was received, but this was not the original.   6. Paragraph 4 is denied. Neither the original creditor or the assignee have served notice pursuant to sec86c of the Credit Consumer Act 1974 Notice of Sums in Arrears and therefore prevented from charging interest on debt regulated by the CCA1974. 7. The defendant submitted a request for a copy of the alleged agreement pursuant to s78 CCA 1974. The claimant has acknowledged receipt of request but has failed to comply. The claimant has failed to provide any evidence of balance or Default Notice requested by CPR 31.14 8. It is therefore denied with regards to defendant owing any monies to the claimant. therefore the claimant is put to strict proof to:  a.  Show how the defendant has entered into an agreement with HSBC. b.  Show and evidence the nature of breach and service of a Default notice pursuant to section 87 (1) CCA 1974. c.  Show and quantify how the defendant has reached the amount claimed for. d.  Show how the claimant has the legal right, either under statute or equity  to issue a claim. 8.  As per civil procedure rule 16.5 (4) it is expected claimant prove the allegation that the money is owed. 9.  Until such time the claimant can comply to a section 78 request he is not entitled, while the default continues, to enforce the agreement 10. By reasons of the facts and matters set out above, it is denied that the claimant is entitled to the relief claimed or any relief.     .
    • OK, well rereading the court orders from March, in the cold light of day rather than when knackered late at night, it is quite clear that on 25 June there will only be a preliminary hearing about Laura representing her son.  Nothing more. It's lazy DCBL who haven't read things properly and have stupidly sent their Witness Statement early. Laura & I had already been working on a WS, and here it is.  It needs tweaking now after reading the rubbish that DCBL sent and after all of LFI's comments.  But the "meat" is there. Defendant's WS - version 1.pdf
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    • That is really good is that a mistake last off "driver doesn't have a licence" I assume that should be keeper? The Court requested me to send the Court and applicant proof of my sons disability from their GP this clearly shows he has Severe Mental Impairement, he is also illiterate.  I naively assumed once the applicant received this that they would drop the claim.  It offends me that Bank has asked the Judge to throw the case out at the preliminary hearing and to make us pay up.
    • Hi, we are looking to get some opinions on weather or not to bother fighting this PCN. This comes from a very big retail park parking where there are restaurants, hotel, amongst other businesses. The parking is free but I suppose there must be a time limit on it that I am not aware of. We were in the area for around 4 hours. Makes us wonder how they deal with people staying in the hotel as the ANPR is on what appears to be a publicly maintained street (where london buses run) which leads to the different parking areas including the hotel.  1 Date of the infringement 26/05/2024 2 Date on the NTK  31/05/2024 3 Date received 07/06/2024 4 Does the NTK mention schedule 4 of The Protections of Freedoms Act 2012? [Y/N?]  YES 5 Is there any photographic evidence of the event? Entry and exit photos however, based on the photographs we are almost sure the photos are taken on public street. This is the location I believe photos are taken from.  https://maps.app.goo.gl/eii8zSmFFhVZDRpbA 6 Have you appealed? [Y/N?] post up your appeal] No Have you had a response? [Y/N?] post it up N/A 7 Who is the parking company? UKPA. UK Parking Administration LTD 8. Where exactly [carpark name and town] The Colonnades, Croydon, CR0 4RQ For either option, does it say which appeals body they operate under. British Parking Association (BPA) Thanks in advance for any assistance.  UKPA PCN The Collonades-redacted.pdf
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I been watching this thread as it develpos, and found it very interesting. This is becuase my debts are in the process of going roughly the same way, though they are not there yet, so i am more or elss researching and seeing what needs to be done. The just in case scenario.

 

Oh, gratz on winning the case, finally some more good news on behalf of the consumer, Consumer 1 - 0 Bureacratic tossers.

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Nothing special, got about 5 collectors on my back though, all wanting money for something. One is over 6 years old now, and was origionally HSBC, but that one been passed around the houses so to speak, so many times, even i lost track of who it's with..lol

 

There are some recent ones, but i went to CAB as soon as i knew things were going a bit pear shaped. I cut up all my credit cards and stopped all attempts at getting credit. Basically i realised, mabee a bit too late that i was a silly guy to be doing this sort of thing, and i was over my head in what i could afford or not.

 

So i went to CAB and they are currently dealing with things at the moment. However, i dont think all debts have been accounted for, as i can't remember every single one, and if there are more, i don't know what to do, or if they will come after me, or what.

 

I am panicking a bit, cause i dont want to upset the hard work the CAB are helping me with, and i sure dont want another credit card.

 

The only thing i can think of is one debt that i supposedly owe to an electric company, which in theory dont exist, cause it's paid on a pre pay meter.

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Excellent News Sleepless, never mind about the costs, as 42 Man says, still no CCA and guess what 1st Crud still haven't paid daughter's costs so you are no worse off than her. We informed the court about this a week ago so will be chasing them up about this soon.Hak can I have a copy of your letter to MP?

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Hi everyone

I hope you are all well & today seems to be an apt day for me to be posting an update with my situation

As my previous posts explain I was issued a stat demand by 1st crud last year & ended up in court wher I was told by the judge that 1st Cruds solicitors (LCS) would not object to the set aside of my stat demand because I was paying 1st crud through my debt management plan. I have heard nothing more from 1st crud, however today I recived a letter from Connaught (sent 2nd class) saying that THEIR CLIENT 1st crud/cf (surely cannot be both of them as cf was 1st cruds client?) have instructed them to recover the overdue amount & understand that i have been furnished with the full details of their clients claim (do they mean the garbage I got through from 1st crud when they were chasing the debt?) & as Connaught are unaware of any reason that payment be witheld they expect full settlement within 7 days

I am just wondering should I hit them with the "I still haven't received the CCA I asked for from 1st crud at the start of August" or the "Well the stat demand was set aside because your client has no objection to me paying through my debt management company"

Any suggestions as to my next move? thanks all

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Firstly report them to the OFT, you'll have seen the recent OFT case on them...If you are paying them through a debt management company, then they should not be pursuing this via yourself (as per the OFT's guidelines on debt collection) I know if it was me I would pay them nothing as they have failed to provide any agreement !!!

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Hi

I have dealt with these two companies, and they told the judge had not kept to a payment plan and had not replied to any of their correspondence. Lies all lies of course, but my SD was set aside by Connaught/1st Cretins, because I would promise not to ask for costs of them. I asked anyway. got none.

But I only pay them £1.00 a month, through my DMC. So if I were you, and were afraid not to pay, I would lower my payment to a token payment of £1.00, and thus satisfying the court and not breaking the bank......:)

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No point in using the CCA argument then SN as it seems obvious you aren't going to stop paying them....unless you take it to court like this CAGGER did - http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/debt-collection-industry/115280-useful-information.html

 

However they are in breach of the OFT's guidelines on debt collection by pressurising you as you are in a DMP...

 

Have you sent a SAR to the original creditor as this will determine whether or not they have an agreement...?

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Common sense should prevail here !!! No statements (excessive charges), no default notice in the prescribed format (and must give 14 days) no agreement too...1st Credit took me to bankruptcy on the back of a letter saying YOU OWE US THIS !! even when I got it annulled and the BR thrown out they still had not provided ANY OTHER PAPERWORK !!!

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Seems to be something of a little triangle here between Citi, 1st Credit and Connaught.

 

You'll be very unlikely to get a copy of your CCA from Citi as they are refusing to give them out to their customers let alone through a DCA...

 

Gonna PM you.

Advice offered by ENRON is without prejudice and is for your judgement as to whether to take it. You should seek the assistance or hire of a solicitor or other paid professional if in doubt.

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Thanks guys

need to check what judges order said 42man

must say this is a lot easier 2nd time around, remember what I was like a few months ago with 1st crud LOL

 

My main question is - can I tell Connaught that debt is in dispute if I am paying monthly through DMP or will it make me look stupid as they can point out that if it's in dispute why am I making a monthly payment

 

Still waiting for copy of CCA from 1st crud which was requested about 5 months ago & still never received

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