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    • Hi, I've been reading the invaluable advice on this forum and reading about the problems with Evri and lost delivery of items.  From what I gather the initial steps after having exhausted every's own lost item claim process is to draft a Letter of Claim, I think it is called and to register with the government Money Claims.  I have got a login for Money Claims and have made an initial stab at the letter but I'm not certain I have got it right. Am I right to assume that having exhausted Evri customer service's claims process and having received the denial of any compensation because the laptop I was sending is on the non-compensatory list that my next step would be to send the Letter of Claim to them? Let me provide some basic details which I hopefully have addressed in the letter. I purchased a laptop through Amazon.co.uk which a business in Belfast sold refurbished laptops through.  They had a 30 day money back guarantee for a full refund if you have any issues with the laptop.  I have the invoice from Amazon showing the purchase.  On 27 April, 2024 before the end of the 30 day period I used their ParcelShop (inside a Tesco) to send the laptop back and have the tracking reference mentioned in the letter.  As mentioned in the letter there was they advised they could not give me or sell me any insurance because laptops are on the non-compensatory list so I just paid the normal delivery cost.  It was scanned as leaving the ParcelShop on 29 April and the tracking has been like that ever since.  After a 28 working day Evri claim process they gave the expected response that they could not provide any compensation and simply could not proceed with my claim. I was hoping to get some advice on whether I go ahead now and email this to Customer Services straightaway and should I send a hard-copy to the Evri address as well?  Or are there any steps I have missed out on first?  I believe 14 days is the reasonable period of time for them to respond so if I were to send it tomorrow, for example 12 June then I should expect a reply by 26 June, is that correct and fair?  And assuming they don't reply with a full refund then I would then go down the government Money Claims site to proceed with that? Sorry for all the questions, I want to make sure I go about it properly.  I'll continue to read through other cases on here so I can get an even better handle on the process. I attached a LOC, happy for any edits or updates that will make it even better. Thanks so much for anyone's help! Regards, Matt Evri letter of claim.docx
    • The date was 3 June. Get on MCOL now. The legal principle is that, even if you defence is late, if the other party hasn't requested judgement, then your defence takes priority and is accepted. You might be in time. When I say now I mean now.  Recently we had someone who was nine days' late and this was pointed out to them at 5:30pm.  They faffed around till 11pm.  When they went on MCOl they saw that judgement had been entered at 7pm. Every minute is vital. File the below standard defence if you still can - 1.  The Defendant is the recorded keeper of [motor vehicle]. 2.  It is denied that the Defendant entered into a contract with the Claimant. 3.  As held by the Upper Tax Tribunal in Vehicle Control Services Limited v HMRC [2012] UKUT 129 (TCC), any contract requires offer and acceptance.  The Claimant was simply contracted by the landowner to provide car-park management services and is not capable of entering into a contract with the Defendant on its own account, as the car park is owned by and the terms of entry set by the landowner.  Accordingly, it is denied that the Claimant has authority to bring this claim.    4.  In any case it is denied that the Defendant broke the terms of a contract with the Claimant. 5.  The Claimant is attempting double recovery by adding an additional sum not included in the original offer.  6.  The Particulars of Claim is denied in its entirety.  It is denied that the Claimant is entitled to the relief claimed or any relief at all.
    • Hi friends,  I’m a bit worried I may have got confused with timings here. I thought I had 33 days from my acknowledgment to submit a defence but the date added above says 3/6/24.   have I missed the date?   if so how can I apply for an exception due to my disability and problems with deadlines and dates etc (ADHD)?   what should I submit as a defence?   I’ve had no reply from BW so far    just been back on MCOL and it says 28 days from service if I completed an acknowledgment of service so does that mean 28 days from that of acknowledgement (I.e. 16/5) which would make deadline for defence 14/6?   Thanks! Panicking here.
    • Normally we don't advise playing your cards early in a snotty letter, but as you have appealed we might as well use what you wrote in the appeal against them. There is no rush, you have until 6 July to get it to them.  See what the other regulars think too. How about something like this? -   Dear Rachael & Sean, cheers for your Letter of Claim.  I rolled around on the floor in laughter at the idea you'd actually thought I'd take such tripe seriously and would cough up! As usual you'll have been too bone idle to do any due diligence.  Had you done so you would have seen that I appealed to your client.  Indeed the driver on the day is a textbook example of having done exactly what you should do when you do not wish to be bound by the T&Cs in a private car park. Of course none of that mattered to the spivs you represent but do you really want to put such a useless case in front of a judge? To be fair, your clients are very useful members of the human race - as comedians.  How I loved the page turner of their antics at The Citrus Building in Bournemouth.  It was chuckle after chuckle reading about them, letter after letter, month after month, insisting they were legally in the right, even through someone who had done just the first day of a GCSE law course could have told them they weren't.  Until the denouement - BOOM - an absolute hammering in court.  In fact - SLAM, BANG - managing to lose twice against the same motorist for the same car park in front of two different judges. Your client can either drop their foolishness now or get yet another tolchocking* in court where I will go for an unreasonable costs order under CPR 27.14(2)(g) and spend the dosh on a nice summer holiday, while every day laughing at your clients' expense. I look forward to your deafening silence. COPIED TO COUNTRYWIDE PARKING MANAGEMENT LTD   *  This word is used under licence from Brassnecked
    • Well yes, ... and the tax dodgers ... Trump May Owe $100 Million From Double-Dip Tax Breaks, Audit Shows A previously unknown focus of an I.R.S. audit is a dubious accounting maneuver that effectively meant taking the same write-offs twice on a Chicago skyscraper. nytimes.com WWW.NYTIMES.COM  
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To the OP. I hope you get this sorted. What I stupidly neglected to say in the last post is that I address my letter (as showm previously) to The Department Manager, Council Taxation Unit etc etc etc.......

 

I think this is fairly important (in my experience) because as far as I can tell, the jobs-worths that are empoyed by the council only know what is printed in the manual, in bold and very big print!!

 

If you contact the manager of that dept direct then he/she will have been to all the meetings etc and will be aware of the anti-poverty stateogy in place for their area!! (as far as I know every local authority has one now as a result of the governments over-all anti-poverty strateogy and commitments).

 

If I were in your situation I would have the letter typed up with a nominal postal order ready for 10am in the morning (Thursday) and if the post had not been / had been but no response, then I would take it down and hand it in at the council. Then sit tight.

 

When I did this, the council removed the account from the Baillifs and allowed me 28days to make the first payment (because I had given a postal order with the letter), and then I only had to deal directly with the local authority!!!

 

Again, this is only my experiences that I am trying to put across so that you can draw from them anything that might be of use to you!!

Again, they cannot be taken as any form of advice etc.

I am rarely around these parts any more. I only stop by when something has come to my attention that has sufficiently annoyed me so as to persuade me to awake from my nap and put in my two pence.

 

I am a final year law student; I am NOT an expert in law. All of my posts are just my opinion. I cannot be held responsible for any outcome whatsoever resulting from any person following the opinions or information contained within my posts. Always seek professional legal advice from a qualified lawyer.

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Just bare in mind though that Torquay council are 1 of the local councils whom are sending out warrant officer bailiffs and carrying out arrests, however in your case i would doubt this would happen as you are clearly in the vulnerable group, point this out to the bailiff when he/she appears.

 

 

There you go spouting off rubbish again.

 

A council cannot have you arrested without first applying to a magistrate.

 

You will then be summoned to appear.

 

Just so even you can learn something.

 

 

 

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I Wish you everything you wish yourself.

 

NatWest Claimed £1,639. Accepted £1,344.

Natwest Paid me again as GOGW £1,656. Yes they can have it back if they say please.

Barclays 1 Claimed £1,260. Won by default. Paid in full

Barclays 2 Claimed £2,378. Won by default. Paid in full

Birmingham Midshires. Claimed £2,122. Accepted £2,075.

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There you go spouting off rubbish again.

 

A council cannot have you arrested without first applying to a magistrate.

 

You will then be summoned to appear.

 

Just so even you can learn something.

 

 

TC, I would interpret what kermit has said in "carrying out arrests" that Torquay council have a policy of routinely applying to the magistrates court for arrest warrants. Admittedly he hasn't expressed it very well.

I really do appreciate all those 'thank you' emails - I'm glad I've been able to help. Apologies if I haven't acknowledged all of them.

You can also ding my gong if you prefer. :)

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Admittedly he hasn't expressed it very well.

 

When he expresses his replies correctly and accurately within the law that is here to protect us, then i will not criticize.

 

Whilst anybody continues to post lies, inaccuracies, and casts doubt about that law, then they can expect no mercy from me.

 

In applying for that warrant, the council must first send you notice to inform you that is what is happening, you will then receive a summons to appear.

 

They don't just " APPEAR " to arrest you, as inferred.

I Wish you everything you wish yourself.

 

NatWest Claimed £1,639. Accepted £1,344.

Natwest Paid me again as GOGW £1,656. Yes they can have it back if they say please.

Barclays 1 Claimed £1,260. Won by default. Paid in full

Barclays 2 Claimed £2,378. Won by default. Paid in full

Birmingham Midshires. Claimed £2,122. Accepted £2,075.

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Letsmakeamark said:

I would not be surprised if a bailiff working for the council reads what you are saying on this forum.

 

The possibility that a poster making slightly "misinformed" statements may work for this company??

 

Im not saying that this is the case, but it is quite possible, IMHO.

I am rarely around these parts any more. I only stop by when something has come to my attention that has sufficiently annoyed me so as to persuade me to awake from my nap and put in my two pence.

 

I am a final year law student; I am NOT an expert in law. All of my posts are just my opinion. I cannot be held responsible for any outcome whatsoever resulting from any person following the opinions or information contained within my posts. Always seek professional legal advice from a qualified lawyer.

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Instead of being so cryptic, you might be able to salvage some of your reputation by either confirming or denying absolutely if you are involved :mad:

 

 

NO IM NOT INVOLVED, i have never come across this case and have NO knowledge of it what so ever!! In fact i rarely venture in to Torquay.

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Hi Guys,

 

Just an update on what has happened now, I emailed the Chief Executive of the Council and explained the situation.

Within a few hours I had recieved a phone call from the CE and they agreed to recall the debt from the bailiff, and also they reduced my bill to just under £300 for the rest of the financial year, which has to be paid by April 2009.

So now It is all out of the way and I have just got to stick to the repayment plan which will be a lot easier.

Many thanks for all your useful posts,comments etc.

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Congratulations!! Just goes to show that when they say they cant recall it......

I am rarely around these parts any more. I only stop by when something has come to my attention that has sufficiently annoyed me so as to persuade me to awake from my nap and put in my two pence.

 

I am a final year law student; I am NOT an expert in law. All of my posts are just my opinion. I cannot be held responsible for any outcome whatsoever resulting from any person following the opinions or information contained within my posts. Always seek professional legal advice from a qualified lawyer.

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NO IM NOT INVOLVED, i have never come across this case and have NO knowledge of it what so ever!! In fact i rarely venture in to Torquay.

 

 

So then what is he trying to say i hardly venture into torquay ? He is a bailiff and he works for smiths. Typical bailiff attitude similar to waller and newton on the enforcers/cars,cops and bailiffs programme.

So whats cooking today ?

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Congratulations, now you can definately come out from behind the sofa.

 

 

While I am here, just an answer to our friend Kermit (called that because he is obviously green).

 

There is only a liability order made, there is no arrestable offence here.

 

You were doing exactly as robin said and was 'scaremongering' and trying to intimidate. Does your mother know you tell lies in public?

 

The op could NOT have been arrested even by one of your fancy named warrant officer bailiffs (are they the ones with skirts and no knickers), or anyone else.

 

But you already knew that.

 

Just bare in mind though that Torquay council are 1 of the local councils whom are sending out warrant officer bailiffs and carrying out arrests, however in your case i would doubt this would happen as you are clearly in the vulnerable group, point this out to the bailiff when he/she appears.

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Congratulations, now you can definitely come out from behind the sofa.
:):p:-D

 

But you already knew that.

 

Im not convinced they actually do know the law they pertain to uphold.:???::???:

 

 

Great result. Job done:cool:

I Wish you everything you wish yourself.

 

NatWest Claimed £1,639. Accepted £1,344.

Natwest Paid me again as GOGW £1,656. Yes they can have it back if they say please.

Barclays 1 Claimed £1,260. Won by default. Paid in full

Barclays 2 Claimed £2,378. Won by default. Paid in full

Birmingham Midshires. Claimed £2,122. Accepted £2,075.

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If anyone is in receipt of income support then they should use one of the template letters in Consumer WiKi to advise the bailiff company to return the debt back to the council so that statutory deductions can be made directly from your benefits at the statutory rate of £2.80 per week !!

 

While these deductions are in force......ALL ENFORCEMENT MUST CEASE.

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