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    • further polished WS using above suggestions and also included couple of more modifications highlighted in orange are those ok to include?   Background   1.1  The Defendant received the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) on the 06th of January 2020 following the vehicle being parked at Arla Old Dairy, South Ruislip on the 05th of December 2019.   Unfair PCN   2.1  On 19th December 2023 the Defendant sent the Claimant's solicitors a CPR request.  As shown in Exhibit 1 (pages 7-13) sent by the solicitors the signage displayed in their evidence clearly shows a £60.00 parking charge notice (which will be reduced to £30 if paid within 14 days of issue).  2.2  Yet the PCN sent by the Claimant is for a £100.00 parking charge notice (reduced to £60 if paid within 30 days of issue).   2.3        The Claimant relies on signage to create a contract.  It is unlawful for the Claimant to write that the charge is £60 on their signs and then send demands for £100.    2.4        The unlawful £100 charge is also the basis for the Claimant's Particulars of Claim.  No Locus Standi  3.1  I do not believe a contract with the landowner, that is provided following the defendant’s CPR request, gives MET Parking Services a right to bring claims in their own name. Definition of “Relevant contract” from the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4,  2 [1] means a contract Including a contract arising only when the vehicle was parked on the relevant land between the driver and a person who is-   (a) the owner or occupier of the land; or   (b) Authorised, under or by virtue of arrangements made by the owner or occupier of the land, to enter into a contract with the driver requiring the payment of parking charges in respect of the parking of the vehicle on the land. According to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/section/44   For a contract to be valid, it requires a director from each company to sign and then two independent witnesses must confirm those signatures.   3.2  The Defendant requested to see such a contract in the CPR request.  The fact that no contract has been produced with the witness signatures present means the contract has not been validly executed. Therefore, there can be no contract established between MET Parking Services and the motorist. Even if “Parking in Electric Bay” could form a contract (which it cannot), it is immaterial. There is no valid contract.  Illegal Conduct – No Contract Formed   4.1 At the time of writing, the Claimant has failed to provide the following, in response to the CPR request from myself.   4.2        The legal contract between the Claimant and the landowner (which in this case is Standard Life Investments UK) to provide evidence that there is an agreement in place with landowner with the necessary authority to issue parking charge notices and to pursue payment by means of litigation.   4.3 Proof of planning permission granted for signage etc under the Town and country Planning Act 1990. Lack of planning permission is a criminal offence under this Act and no contract can be formed where criminality is involved.   4.4        I also do not believe the claimant possesses these documents.   No Keeper Liability   5.1        The defendant was not the driver at the time and date mentioned in the PCN and the claimant has not established keeper liability under schedule 4 of the PoFA 2012. In this matter, the defendant puts it to the claimant to produce strict proof as to who was driving at the time.   5.2 The claimant in their Notice To Keeper also failed to comply with PoFA 2012 Schedule 4 section 9[2][f] while mentioning “the right to recover from the keeper so much of that parking charge as remains unpaid” where they did not include statement “(if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met)”.     5.3         The claimant did not mention parking period, times on the photographs are separate from the PCN and in any case are that arrival and departure times not the parking period since their times include driving to and from the parking space as a minimum and can include extra time to allow pedestrians and other vehicles to pass in front.    Protection of Freedoms Act 2012   The notice must -   (a) specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;  22. In the persuasive judgement K4GF167G - Premier Park Ltd v Mr Mathur - Horsham County Court – 5 January 2024 it was on this very point that the judge dismissed this claim.  5.4  A the PCN does not comply with the Act the Defendant as keeper is not liable.  No Breach of Contract   6.1       No breach of contract occurred because the PCN and contract provided as part of the defendant’s CPR request shows different post code, PCN shows HA4 0EY while contract shows HA4 0FY. According to PCN defendant parked on HA4 0EY which does not appear to be subject to the postcode covered by the contract.  6.2         The entrance sign does not mention anything about there being other terms inside the car park so does not offer a contract which makes it only an offer to treat,  Interest  7.1  It is unreasonable for the Claimant to delay litigation for  Double Recovery   7.2  The claim is littered with made-up charges.  7.3  As noted above, the Claimant's signs state a £60 charge yet their PCN is for £100.  7.4  As well as the £100 parking charge, the Claimant seeks recovery of an additional £70.  This is simply a poor attempt to circumvent the legal costs cap at small claims.  7.5 Since 2019, many County Courts have considered claims in excess of £100 to be an abuse of process leading to them being struck out ab initio. An example, in the Caernarfon Court in VCS v Davies, case No. FTQZ4W28 on 4th September 2019, District Judge Jones-Evans stated “Upon it being recorded that District Judge Jones- Evans has over a very significant period of time warned advocates (...) in many cases of this nature before this court that their claim for £60 is unenforceable in law and is an abuse of process and is nothing more than a poor attempt to go behind the decision of the Supreme Court v Beavis which inter alia decided that a figure of £160 as a global sum claimed in this case would be a penalty and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss and therefore unenforceable in law and if the practice continued, he would treat all cases as a claim for £160 and therefore a penalty and unenforceable in law it is hereby declared (…) the claim is struck out and declared to be wholly without merit and an abuse of process.”  7.6 In Claim Nos. F0DP806M and F0DP201T, District Judge Taylor echoed earlier General Judgment or Orders of District Judge Grand, stating ''It is ordered that the claim is struck out as an abuse of process. The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the Defendant contracted to pay. This additional charge is not recoverabl15e under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4 nor with reference to the judgment in Parking Eye v Beavis. It is an abuse of process from the Claimant to issue a knowingly inflated claim for an additional sum which it is not entitled to recover. This order has been made by the court of its own initiative without a hearing pursuant to CPR Rule 3.3(4)) of the Civil Procedure Rules 1998...''  7.7 In the persuasive case of G4QZ465V - Excel Parking Services Ltd v Wilkinson – Bradford County Court -2 July 2020 (Exhibit 4) the judge had decided that Excel had won. However, due to Excel adding on the £60 the Judge dismissed the case.  7.8        The addition of costs not previously specified on signage are also in breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015, Schedule 2, specifically paras 6, 10 and 14.   7.9        It is the Defendant’s position that the Claimant in this case has knowingly submitted inflated costs and thus the entire claim should be similarly struck out in accordance with Civil Procedure Rule 3.3(4).   In Conclusion   8.1        I invite the court to dismiss the claim.  Statement of Truth  I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.   
    • Well the difference is that in all our other cases It was Kev who was trying to entrap the motorist so sticking two fingers up to him and daring him to try court was from a position of strength. In your case, sorry, you made a mistake so you're not in the position of strength.  I've looked on Google Maps and the signs are few & far between as per Kev's MO, but there is an entrance sign saying "Pay & Display" (and you've admitted in writing that you knew you had to pay) and the signs by the payment machines do say "Sea View Car Park" (and you've admitted in writing you paid the wrong car park ... and maybe outed yourself as the driver). Something I missed in my previous post is that the LoC is only for one ticket, not two. Sorry, but it's impossible to definitively advise what to so. Personally I'd probably gamble on Kev being a serial bottler of court and reply with a snotty letter ridiculing the signage (given you mentioned the signage in your appeal) - but it is a gamble.  
    • No! What has happened is that your pix were up-to-date: 5 hours' maximum stay and £100 PCN. The lazy solicitors have sent ancient pictures: 4 hours' maximum stay and £60 PCN. Don't let on!  Let them be hoisted by their own lazy petard in the court hearing (if they don't bottle before).
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£395 and counting now, on my 5th letter from them,they don't know when to give in!!!

 

I've sent a letter now telling them I own the car but I wasn't the driver that day, also that I was working in Birminghan that day too, my employer can vouch for that. So I'm just waiting for them to reply.

 

I am also waiting for their bailiffs letter and maybe court action. We'll see what happens.

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Hi Everyone, I have am a newly registered user and would like some advise on UKCPS Ltd based at Huddersfield, who appear to be a private car park management firm, my wife was out for meal a few evenings ago with her friend in Leeds, it was a very wet night and they were struggling to find a parking spot, they came across some spaces in front of a cafe bar which was closed, there was no sign to say it was private and they thought it would be OK to park there while they went for their meal for a couple of hours, when they returned they found a 'Parking Notice Charge' stuck to the windscreen for a sum of £75. They couldn't believe it, and went to find where the signs were that warned of this, the signs found were not readable unless you went right up to them, it seems like a [problem] to me but can really do without a load of hassle, help what should we do.

 

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Absolutely nothing! These vermin provide their services 'free' to landowners in exchange for the right to terrorise motorists and make them pay unreasonable amounts. I could say you could appeal and say the signs weren't prominent enough, or the shop whose car park you use was not open for business. Or indeed, you don't know who the driver was, but any contact just winds up your blood pressure. Should they write to you, there is only 3 things you need to remember;

 

Keep their correspondence

Do not respond to it

Chuckle to yourself with each letter and their escalating threats.

 

They will use every trick to make you respond and pay, even hoping to wear you down. It was an innocent mistake, and as far as you are concerned, that is an end to the matter.

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it seems like a [problem] to me but can really do without a load of hassle, help what should we do.

You're dead right it is a [problem]. Buzby has given good advice. Have a read of the Private Parking Companies guide

in the stickies section of the forum and you'll discover how much of a [problem] it is.

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there was no sign to say it was private and they thought it would be OK to park there while they went for their meal for a couple of hours, when they returned they found a 'Parking Notice Charge' stuck to the windscreen for a sum of £75.

 

At least you got a parking notice I didn't even get one!!! :mad:, If I did get one I think I would have paid it off. Makes me more determined not to pay them anymore.

RIP My Little Angel Callam, Still Born 30th October 2007. Mummy and Daddy Will Always Miss You. YNWA xXx

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when they returned they found a 'Parking Notice Charge' stuck to the windscreen for a sum of £75. They couldn't believe it, and went to find where the signs were that warned of this, the signs found were not readable unless you went right up to them, it seems like a [problem] to me but can really do without a load of hassle, help what should we do.

 

All you have is an invoice disguised as a parking ticket. The law does not allow for private companies to give out financial penalties. If a random plasterer you'd never met put an invoice through your door, would you pay it?

These scamsters pay £2.50 to the DVLA for your address and then bombard you with letters, beoming increasingly threatening. Ignore them and they give up after 4 or 5 letters. Don't contact them.

 

They will not take you to court. They just want you to think they might so you'll be scared into paying up.

 

Be prepared for all such of lies in the letters like "the owner is liable", "you agreed to the terms and conditions" and "to avoid a CCJ you need to pay now".

 

There needs to be a law brought in to wipe these ****** companies from the face of the earth.

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Right I've recieved a letter AGAIN from them, this time replying to my letter saying that it was the owner that is responsible irrespectful of who was driving the car that day. I can tell you now I wasn't in Leeds that day I was in Birmingham. It also says in the letter to put it mildly I don't have a leg to stand on if it went to the courts.

 

So I will continue to ignore the letters. Lets hope they stop pestering me!!!

RIP My Little Angel Callam, Still Born 30th October 2007. Mummy and Daddy Will Always Miss You. YNWA xXx

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It also says in the letter to put it mildly I don't have a leg to stand on if it went to the courts.

 

You probably received their template letter. They have two:

 

• your appeal has been unsuccessful. Pay up.

• you are a smartarse who knows the law, but we don't want to admit we're wrong. So here's some utterly irrelevant legalise to try and make you pay up.

 

I think you got the second!

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Oh! the owner is responsible, no matter who was driving, I'd like them to point me in the direction of the legal authority to support that statement:D:D:D

What a bunch of bankers.

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I've not actually heard of any UKCPS court cases, I actually live in that part of the world so could have expected to hear about the odd one. I've been directly involved with one [a relative - after a dose of ignoring UKCPS eventually did.......nothing] and have heard about a few others from aquaintences which went much the same way.

 

With their "owner is responsible" and £3 / day "liquidated damages" I don't see them hurrying to court to have their paperwork examined.

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Hi there

 

I have also just been landed with a ticket from UKCPS Ltd and was astonished that they charge 75 quid straight up!

I also parked outside a private garage in leeds but it was about half six and the shop had shut for the day. I parked where it said "MOT only" but I figured since it was after work then it would be ok. It didnt actually say "no parking at any time" or reveal you are at risk of fines if you park here unlawfully.

Can I still hold firm and not pay the parking charge as other people havent done on these forums?

 

MAny thanks for your help and advice

 

LM

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Hi Leedsman and welcome,

 

I'm surprised after just reading this thread you are contemplating doing anything but ignoring the unenforceable invoice you have received;)

regards

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You can lead a horse to water...

 

There is no need to 'have a defence'. There is no 'getting away with it'.

 

You need to understand that this is a [problem]. You don't owe them a penny.

If the sign had said you must pay £10,000 would you be writing them a cheque?

 

Please ignore these clowns and do not pay them a penny. All that will happen is that you will receive 5 or 6 letters. Ignoring them is the easiest thing in the world to do.

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It would appear Leedsman has a merc. lamma - we do take recovery action with success and will not hesitate to do so in this case should the parking charge not be settled in due course. Leedsman may contact us to discuss at anytime

 

Please do not contact UKCPS and fall for this poster's intimidation Leedsman.

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Perhaps leedsman would contact me using the private message service on this forum - he has nothing to lose. if all you posters are right he doesnt need to pay and if i am right he will avoid a court case and settle this amicably

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Perhaps leedsman would contact me using the private message service on this forum - he has nothing to lose. if all you posters are right he doesnt need to pay and if i am right he will avoid a court case and settle this amicably

Its very unwise to seek advice by PM. Far better, Peternet, that you give the OP your advice in open forum so that we all get the benefit of your wisdom. I could do with a laugh.....

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Leedsman, you have a choice. Either fall for Peternet's intimidation or blank UKCPS completely. In the most miniscule of chances that court papers are issued then I'm quite sure that the experts on here will rally round and you will get the best of defences. UKCPS paperwork is not the best, their £3 / day "liquidated damages" is just so much nonsense. I really can not see any hope of UKCPS winning against a proper defence.

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