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    • Incidentally to answer your question about what should you do immediately, I would suggest that you send the letter tomorrow. Wait until the end of the week. If they don't respond or if they respond negatively, then write to them immediately and tell them that you are not prepared to do without the vehicle. As they have failed to respond to your putting work in hand and you will be approaching them for the costs of all the repairs and if they cause you any difficulty in you will simply sue them. A bill of about £4000 is easy. It puts you within the small claims track so there is no risk of costs even if you lose – which is most unlikely on the basis of what you say
    • I found it cheers Dave!!   I think focusing on lack of compliance with legislation should be the one, seeing as we just lost the case to them by not complying, it will be worth pointing it out. I also want to poi t out their m.o. Which is less than honourable to say the least. Hopefully the judge will side with the little old lady and not the peoppe who use deceit to line their pockets!!   She said she is happy to speak up but is kindly asking for assistance in the form of a bullet pointed printed paper for her to take in so she can read out her points and leave it at that (without rambling).    Straight and to the point!!    Daves post #66 is legendary 🙌    Thanks for the help guys 😊    Let's kick some ass    
    • I differ from my site team colleague slightly in the the six-month rule applies if you have asserted your rights within the six months. My understanding is that you haven't asserted your rights during that time. In other words you haven't informed them that you are giving them a single opportunity to repair and if they decline or if the repair fails then you are rejecting the car for a refund. Please correct me if I'm wrong. On that basis, you are covered by the consumer rights act but not in terms of the right to reject. You are covered under the consumer rights act in that you are entitled to purchase a vehicle which is of satisfactory quality and remains that way for a reasonable period of time. You don't have to prove that the fault existed at the time of sale – although that's what they will try to tell you and even the motoring ombudsman will try to tell you that. But the motoring ombudsman is an industry led organisation which pretends to be an ombudsman but in fact favours the industry and its advice is wrong and even deceptive. I think you should start off by writing both to the finance company and also to the dealership. Describe the fault to them. Send them the evidence you have that the windscreen was incorrectly fitted and the damage which has been caused as a result. Send in the quotation for the work and require them to respond within seven days and that they must agree that the work will be carried out by a competent professional an authorised repairer. Not one of their cheapskate once. Also, you will want them to agree to provide you with a courtesy car. Also have you incurred any expenses associated with this? Travel, car hire, cost of inspections –?? Have you told us the name of the finance company? My site team colleague is correct that if they cause any trouble then you should see them as co-defendants. You can be certain that they will put their hands up. It will go to court. You would sue them for the cost of the work. You would recover your costs of the installation plus your court costs. I don't think you will be able to sue for the rejection of the vehicle on the basis of what you tell us in terms of having not asserted your rights. However you will be able to recover the cost of all the works – making good everything so that the car is in the condition that it would have been in had the replacement windscreen been properly fitted. I wonder who fitted the replacement windscreen? I think I would be out to sue them as well. Post the draft of your letter to the dealership and also to the finance company here so that we can have a look before you send it off.  
    • Thanks I have been reading quite a few this one got me as it did say they have instructed them to take legal action but thanks again your a legend 
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My wife owed £1400 and they sent the same letter and then sent another letter saying since she has not responded we have no choice but to send it to another debt collection agency.

 

Lowell's Lowell portfolio red Hampton illegal a company in Halifax and McKenzie hall then passed to another that never happed.

 

But they had been writing for over a year and then it became statue barred :)

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Try to brighten your day Dora your smiling and I'm in stitches with the letters you receive.:lol:

 

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My wife owed £1400 and they sent the same letter and then sent another letter saying since she has not responded we have no choice but to send it to another debt collection agency.

 

Lowell's Lowell portfolio red Hampton illegal a company in Halifax and McKenzie hall then passed to another that never happed.

 

But they had been writing for over a year and then it became statue barred :)

 

thank you:-):-)

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Hi Andy your comments make me smile i have got to get another folder lol:roll:

 

 

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Dora.

 

I would write to them as the phones owner and say stop harrassing me.

Its your phone you pay the bill/put credit on you control the phone.

OFT debt collection guidance

 

Please remember the only stupid question is the one you dont ask so dont worry about asking the stupid questions.

 

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Gives them something to do Dora, get a new sim card if its really annoying you.

 

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Gives them something to do Dora, get a new sim card if its really annoying you.

 

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Andy

 

:-)its the landline andy they are useing i am surprised i don,t get them on my mobile, i suppose its the next best thing to do has i haven,t received any fan mail from them for a while lol:roll:

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Ah I see Dora, well lets hope they soon decide what course of action they are going to take as your up to 369 posts and we are waiting eagerly for you to join the legal forums:wink:

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Ah I see Dora, well lets hope they soon decide what course of action they are going to take as your up to 369 posts and we are waiting eagerly for you to join the legal forums:wink:

 

 

 

Thanks i am sure i will be asking for your advice again then Andy lol:wink:

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Lowell have taken a whole year to respond to my last letter regarding a disputed Cap One account. They even quoted Carey Vs. HSBC, which, as most will know, was superceded two months later.

 

I'm thinking of just writing a short letter saying I'll rspond accordingly with my full reasons for asserting that the "agreement" (for agreement, read "application form") is enenforceable within a similar timescale. They can expect a full resonse in a year or so.

 

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They even quoted Carey Vs. HSBC, which, as most will know, was superceded two months later.

 

Superceded by what?

Before you criticise another man you should first walk a mile in his shoes. Then, when you criticise him, you'll be a mile away and he won't have any shoes on.

 

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Ditto, I’m not aware of anything superseding Carey, let alone a couple of months after. Please enlighten!

 

Can you tell us the full content of what they have sent, and the context?

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