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    • "We suffer more in imagination than in reality" - really pleased this all happened. Settled by TO, full amount save as to costs and without interest claimed. I consider this a success but feel free to move this thread to wherever it's appropriate. I say it's a success because when I started this journey I was in a position of looking to pay interest on all these accounts, allowing them to default stopped that and so even though I am paying the full amount, it is without a doubt reduced from my position 3 years ago and I feel knowing this outcome was possible, happy to gotten this far, defended myself in person and left with a loan with terms I could only dream of, written into law as interest free! I will make better decisions in the future on other accounts, knowing key stages of this whole process. We had the opportunity to speak in court, Judge (feels like just before a ruling) was clear in such that he 'had all the relevant paperwork to make a judgement'. He wasn't pleased I hadn't settled before Court.. but then stated due to WS and verbal arguments on why I haven't settled, from my WS conclusion as follows: "11. The Defendant was not given ample evidence to prove the debt and therefore was not required to enter settlement negotiations. Should the debt be proved in the future, the Defendant is willing to enter such negotiations with the Claimant. "  He offered to stand down the case to give us chance to settle and that that was for my benefit specifically - their Sols didn't want to, he asked me whether I wanted to proceed to judgement or be given the opportunity to settle. Naturally, I snapped his hand off and we entered negotiations (took about 45 minutes). He added I should get legal advice for matters such as these. They were unwilling to agree to a TO unless it was full amount claimed, plus costs, plus interest. Which I rejected as I felt that was unfair in light of the circumstances and the judges comments, I then countered with full amount minus all costs and interest over 84 months. They accepted that. I believe the Judge wouldn't have been happy if they didn't accept a payment plan for the full amount, at this late stage. The judge was very impressed by my articulate defence and WS (Thanks CAG!) he respected that I was wiling to engage with the process but commented only I  can know whether this debt is mine, but stated that Civil cases were based on balance of probabilities, not without shadow of a doubt, and all he needs to determine is whether the account existed. Verbal arguments aside; he has enough evidence in paperwork for that. He clarified that a copy of a DN and NOA is sufficient proof based on balance of probabilities that they were served. I still disagree, but hey, I'm just me.. It's definitely not strict proof as basically I have to prove the negative (I didn't receive them/they were not served), which is impossible. Overall, a great result I think! BT  
    • Seeking further advice now. The 33 days in which the defendant has to submit a defence expires at 16:00 tomorrow. The defendant has submitted an acknowledgement of service but looking to get the claim awarded by default in failure to submit the defence. This is MoneyClaim Online and can see an option to request a default judgement but believe that is for failure to acknowledge the claim within 14 days??  So being MoneyClaim Online, how do I request the claim be awarded in my favour?
    • Have to agree with the above Health and safety legislation is specific in that the service provider in so far as is reasonably practicable, the health, safety and welfare at work of all his employees and those not in the employ of the business. You claim is like saying you slipped in the swimming pool area while taking a dip. As rightly stated by by the leisure centre, a sports hall has dedicated equipment and you yourself personally have a legal obligation in mitigating danger or injury to yourself by taking account of your immediate surroundings. Where your claim will fail is if it is reasonable and proportionate to impose liability of the Leisure Centre? The answer has to be no.
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Any advice please , I have recieved a letter from these last week for a Ebay debt , now it became obvious it was fraud as the telelphone number they gave me and email address they had were false. They said ok get a crime number and we will pass back to Ebay. Thing is the police said we dont as Ebay have its own dept to deal with this .So I called Intrium and told them this who didnt belive me! I had foolishly given them a telephone number so last week three times where I had to explain again. I wrote them a letter explianing this which they seem to have ignored!

They called on Thursday and spoke to a work friend - they told him who they were and what they wanted! I called them back and went mad for telling someone else my bussiness! Anyway the person I spoke to said it would be passed back to Ebay.

Obviously not.

Yesterday , I recieved a call from a very rude lady - when I asked her to read the notes she said ok but so what!

She then said I was lying and should clear the debt as it will not go away. I asked her to repeat , if she was calling me a liar - and she did!

I couldnt belive it , I did get her name - I am furious , really am.

If I owed the money I would pay as it only £80 , but her whole attitude - I said for someone working in customer relations she was appalling. She replied she does'nt do customer relations.

How can I resolve this - and complain for disscusing me to someone else and calling me a liar? I was told a manager would call me back -but I am still awaiting.

Thanks.

Thank goodness I found this site!

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Thanks I will complain to Trading standrards - would it be there local or mine?

I am going to try the police once more , there is a station near me , as I will go mad if they carry on .Thing I can not understand is , why a debt letter out of the blue , as its not that hard to find me. And I have tried to contact ebay , but I havent actually got or can find a landline number.

Thank goodness I found this site!

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I reported these people to Trading Standards and Information comissoner - heard nothing back as yet. Wrote a strong letter to Intruim and recieved a reply saying they were sorry blah , blah and passing back to ebay.

The calls started again from Intruim , when I asked them to read there notes they apologised. Calls stopped that was two weeks ago - heard nothing.

Then today - a company called fredrickson International have started to call much to my anger.

How can I sort this?

Ebay are impossible to get hold of - and these DCA's seem to do what they want and ignore your protests both in writing and verbally.

Anyone?

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In the days when I was young, foolish, stupid (well, 2005), I stupidly paid a small debt to these clowns - even though it was being disputed via EBay at the time. This was because I had - and still do have - a major, major dispute on with Lloyds TSB, which was a lot more important to me at that time. So, I paid up just to get IJ off my back - stupid, I know.

 

But I know a lot more now than I did then. Now, I've asked them - even though it's long been paid - to obtain a copy of the original agreement, and the deed of assignment. I've had serious arguments with I.J. about this and their staff are no help at all.

 

As anybody who's been in this situation will know, EBay are nigh-on impossible to contact.

 

Are they obliged to supply what I've asked for, even though the debt's long since been paid? They never provided either at the time, and my informing them that this sum was being disputed (I was going through an argument with them at the time) fell on deaf ears.

 

I do know I could have them just for ignoring the dispute, but would I have a leg to stand on if I ask them to prove their legal right to collect on a long-paid debt?

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I recently had a letter from IJ regarding brittania music and film club.These people say that brittania has gone into administration and it may have been some time since i was contacted. Luckily for me i have an administration order for all my small debts, brittania is one of them. IJ says that i still owe over £30 even though since march 2007 i have been making regular payments through county court,so i do not care what Idiot Justice think also i have today informed the county court, that i have heard that brittania is in administration and another company has the debt and says no payments have been made. This is now in the hands of the enforcement officer for investigation,and i will not be speaking to them,or writing to them. I hope IJ take court action on this becaus ei would win any action taken and ij would have to pay costs.:grin: :grin: :grin:

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I've had dealings with this company and I must say they are the rudest company. They promise to not harass and then start again. They do not reply to letters or cca request and over phone stated I was not to harass original company and accept shabby print out statement. They accept they received letters over phone then deny receiving, its quite normal for them. I taped them and when they were swearing, yes swearing at me to pay, I told them I was recording and they went mad saying it was against the law. I told them to leave off reply in writing to cca and leave me alone. They havn't replied yet. I let it go for a while for the peace but know I will have to chase them again and threaten to stop paying.:rolleyes:

 

I HATE Intrum Jusitica:mad:

 

Thats better:lol:

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