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Hi there,i was wondering if you could give me some advice?.

I got a ticket this morning from excell.grrr

I went into a local supermarket carpark that is run by excell.ive been using the carpark for years and always paid for my parking but for the past few months the machine has been out of order so you get to the point where you get past checking because it never works.today there was as usual a sign on saying out of order but i must admit i didnt read the rest of it which said use other machine. I WAS JUST COMING BACK TO THE CAR WHEN I SAW THE LITTLE HITLER WRITING A TICKET. I SHOUTED TO HIM `I`M HERE` HE SAID` I`M ALREADY WRITING IT I`VE GIVEN YOU OVER HALF AN HOUR(32MINS).HE THEN HANDED IT TO ME AND PROCEEDED TO TELL ME THE APPEAL PROCEDURE.I MUST ADMIT WHEN I GOT INTO MY CAR I SAT AND CRIED WHEN I SAW THE AMMOUNT (£60 THATS OBSCENE!!!).I SHOP THERE ANYWAY BECAUSE I`M ON A SMALL SHOPPING BUDGET.CAN SOMEONE PLEASE ADVISE ME WHAT TO DO NEXT DO I PLEAD WITH THIER HUMAN SIDE OR AM I DESTINED TO BE £60 LIGHTER.

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... DO I PLEAD WITH THIER HUMAN SIDE OR AM I DESTINED TO BE £60 LIGHTER.

Neither.

 

Excel's "ticket" is just unenforceable toilet paper - read all the squillions of threads on here and you'll soon realise that.

 

The "appeal" process consists of you sending a letter, which some shaven-headed chimp in a portakabin laughs at, then writes back saying "appeal rejected, now pay up".

 

Ignore all their ridiculous threats, never contact them, never pay them a penny.

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CAN SOMEONE PLEASE ADVISE ME WHAT TO DO NEXT DO I PLEAD WITH THIER HUMAN SIDE OR AM I DESTINED TO BE £60 LIGHTER.

 

DON'T plead with them, don't appeal to them or contact them by phone, post, email, carrier pigeon or anything else. Ignore all their letters and DO NOT PAY! It is a [problem]. Read all the threads on here about Excel and other PPCs and you will understand that if you ignore all their rubbish letters they eventually go away.

Oh, and they don't have a human side. They are pond dwelling low life ****!

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PROCEEDED TO TELL ME THE APPEAL PROCEDURE.

 

That wouldn't haven't taken very long, there isn't one.

 

I MUST ADMIT WHEN I GOT INTO MY CAR I SAT AND CRIED WHEN I SAW THE AMMOUNT (£60 THATS OBSCENE!!!)

 

I used to laugh knowing that it was going to cost them money and not me.

 

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE ADVISE ME WHAT TO DO NEXT

 

Yes, very easy, just ignore all the free toilet paper they will send you through the post, or if your budget is really tight, use it as suggested.

 

DO I PLEAD WITH THIER HUMAN SIDE

 

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

 

OR AM I DESTINED TO BE £60 LIGHTER.

 

Not if you follow the advice on this forum, it will be the [problematic] who lose money.

 

regards

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maybe we should start a thread with the "supposed names" of those people writing the letters ?

 

can a ficticious name send a legal letter .. and so what if they're real, let them take the shame - move on get a life, get a proper job help others.

Like me - I was trying to make things better for man kinds health when they decided to identify me for over stopping 10 mins even though their nearest machine was broken !

 

If they are only patrolling a car park for someone else , complain to the owners about excel.

Draw attention to notes like cars parked at owners risk. Use comments like "yes, but only if all bays are clearly marked and of identical size, you have different size bays divided up by lines you have drawn, you are responsible or better still accountable !" - go round with a tape measure and note pad, tell the manager what you're doing and why - you're taking up the fight against these so called partners of theirs.

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Howdo, just thought i'd update you on the latest shenanigans from Excel - i now have received the dreaded FINAL DEMAND NOTICE that most people on this thread seem to have encountered.

 

Time to put on the helmet and expect the brute force of Excel coming knocking at my door - seems a lot of hassle for a measly £100.00:p.

 

But will heed the advice of the wise old sages on this thread and sit tight.

Will keep you posted:)

 

PS: Did anyone see that news article last week regarding excessive parking charges?

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In the very remote chance that they do come knocking on your door, just tell them to Foxtrot Oscar. They are just private citizens with no special powers. They are not bailiffs.

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Hi Everyone,

 

I'm hoping someone can help me. I've recently been issued a fine off excel.

 

I drove through their car park in Chorlton Manchester on 2 seperate occasions on the same day.

 

The event took place like this...

 

Drove into entrance "A" and out of entrance "B" within a minute. And then around 20 mins later drove back through entrance "B" and out of entrance "A". I was on the car park for less than a minute both times and now they have sent me their pictures of just the entrance "A" camera saying that i was on the car park for 20 mins and that i owe them £60?!?!?

 

I wrote to them explaining the situation and they just said they had gone back over their camera footage and could confirm that i was on the car park for 20 mins. I said that it was not true and told them to please send me the video footage of both entrances so i could point out my car entering and leaving the car park as i stated. They said that the cameras are only capable of taking still images and just send me bigger prints of the images!?! They then asked for documentation displaying proof that the car was not on their car park for 20 mins. I responded saying "what kind of proof do you think someone in my situation could have" i also stated that i had a witness.

 

They have said they will no longer accept any more appeals and that i must pay the fine.

 

What should i do? Should i just ignore the further letters? Should i pay the fine? Should i send them any further correspondence?

 

The bottom line is that what they are accusing me of is simply not true!

 

Please help.

 

Thank you

 

Clifftw

 

P.s. there are no barriers at either entrance so it's very easy to just drive through.

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For a start it's not a "fine" (only the police , the courts and councils can issue them), it's an unenforceable invoice . Excel are just a private company with no more power than you or me to demand such payments.

 

 

From now on do not contact the company again and ignore any correspondence from them. This case is no different to the many other private parking tickets featured on this forum. Just hold firm and they will eventually lose interest in you.

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Hi Everyone,

 

I'm hoping someone can help me. I've recently been issued a fine off excel.

 

It is not a fine, more a begging letter.

 

I drove through their car park in Chorlton Manchester on 2 seperate occasions on the same day.

 

The event took place like this...

 

Drove into entrance "A" and out of entrance "B" within a minute. And then around 20 mins later drove back through entrance "B" and out of entrance "A". I was on the car park for less than a minute both times and now they have sent me their pictures of just the entrance "A" camera saying that i was on the car park for 20 mins and that i owe them £60?!?!?

 

In their dreams.

 

I wrote to them explaining the situation and they just said they had gone back over their camera footage and could confirm that i was on the car park for 20 mins.

 

So what, does that mean you now owe them £60? Of course not it is all rubbish.

 

I said that it was not true and told them to please send me the video footage of both entrances so i could point out my car entering and leaving the car park as i stated.

 

You are taking them far too seriously, it does not really matter what you did it still does not equal £60.

 

They said that the cameras are only capable of taking still images and just send me bigger prints of the images!?! They then asked for documentation displaying proof that the car was not on their car park for 20 mins. I responded saying "what kind of proof do you think someone in my situation could have" i also stated that i had a witness.

 

Proof, witnesses, WTF is going on, you do realise you are dealing with a bunch of [problematic] with no more credibility than Nigerian email [problematic]. STOP giving them the credibility they crave.

 

They have said they will no longer accept any more appeals and that i must pay the fine.

 

They don't do appeals anyway so you have lost nothing there.

 

What should i do? Should i just ignore the further letters?

 

Yes.

 

Should i pay the fine?

 

No.

 

Should i send them any further correspondence?

 

NO.

 

The bottom line is that what they are accusing me of is simply not true!

 

There you go taking them seriously again, forget it and ignore them.

 

Please help.

 

Thank you

 

Clifftw

 

P.s. there are no barriers at either entrance so it's very easy to just drive through.

 

Makes no difference.

 

regards

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Hi my wife has now also fell foul of the dreaded excel invoice.She paid for 2 hours but ran over by around 25 mins .We have the £60 letter now .So no real excuses just a feeling £60 is a bit over the top ! having read the threads saying ignore the letters etc unsure now where we stand as technically we don't have a leg to stand! if like some of the other people on here we had a valid excuse i definately wouldn't be paying up just wondered what others thought should i pay or should i just ignore?

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Penfield,

 

Its a tough one, but if you feel that £60 is a reasonable amount for the 25mins you ran over then pay for it, otherwise if you feel like the rest of us then just ignore the letter and make them work for their money.

 

It wouldn't have mattered even if you where stood right behind the guy dishing out the ticket at the time.

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Hi my wife has now also fell foul of the dreaded excel invoice.She paid for 2 hours but ran over by around 25 mins .We have the £60 letter now .So no real excuses just a feeling £60 is a bit over the top ! having read the threads saying ignore the letters etc unsure now where we stand as technically we don't have a leg to stand! if like some of the other people on here we had a valid excuse i definately wouldn't be paying up just wondered what others thought should i pay or should i just ignore?

 

You have more legs to stand on than a centipede. You don't owe them anything except technically for those 25 minutes which is less than half of what you would pay for an hour's parking. Anything over that amount would be deemed an unfair penalty. This is why private parking companies (especially Excel) never go to court. So just ignore and don't contact them again.

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Hello

 

I parked at an excel car park last week. I bought a ticket for the whole day and displayed it not very well. When I came back I had a ticket, because I had not displayed it properly. This was true as it was lieing on the floor.

 

However I had bought a ticket for the whole day and the ticket confirms the time I had bought the ticket. I stated this in my appeal but they unreasoonably rejected it, saying that I had failed to display it properly.

 

Do they have a case at all? Should I pay or just ignore it? I know the advice says that private notices are unenforceable but I want to check my circumstances.

 

Many thanks

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Hello

 

I parked at an excel car park last week. I bought a ticket for the whole day and displayed it not very well. When I came back I had a ticket, because I had not displayed it properly. This was true as it was lieing on the floor.

 

However I had bought a ticket for the whole day and the ticket confirms the time I had bought the ticket. I stated this in my appeal but they unreasoonably rejected it, saying that I had failed to display it properly.

 

Do they have a case at all? Should I pay or just ignore it? I know the advice says that private notices are unenforceable but I want to check my circumstances.

 

Many thanks

Your circumstances are rock solid, IGNORE them completely and do not contact them again.

regards

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Hi everyone,

It looks like I am not on my own here.

I have just registered here and I am writing to see if anyone knows how I can prove that I parked in Chorlton carpark,Manchester.

The story goes like this. I parked there about half a month ago , paid in the machine to get a ticket and displayed it on the dashboard. It is one of those machines where you have to enter the registration, so I did all that.

 

Today I received a letter asking me to pay £60 for not displaying the ticket, which is wrong because I did display it. They show a photo of my car entering and going out , which show my registration, but it doesn't show that I have not displayed my ticket!!

 

I have written an email to them straight away as they say if you want to appeal you have to do it before 7 days. And that's where I am at the moment.

could you tell me if those machines hold a record of the registration or cars that pay? Does anyone knows?

 

Any help on this matter will be very helpful, I feel very distressed and worried....:(

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Botica, it will get confusing if you post the same problem in multiple threads. If you stick to one thread you will receive concise responses and everyone will be able to follow the thread of your ticket.

 

You have had your own thread created by a mod here,

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/parking-traffic-offences/252304-excel-parking-chorlton-cum.html

 

it will be better if you only post in that one.

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