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If you have had any dealings with DG Solicitors, you may wish to view the following PDF, giving a detailed description of their role within, and as a part of HSBC:

 

Click this link to view the PDF - DG - PDF

 

HSBC Invoice Finance has a recovery and dispute resolution operation based in Birmingham. Within this facility there is a dedicated litigation team of solicitors and legal executives who specialise in commercial debt recovery. The litigation team operates in the name of “DG Solicitors” but is a dedicated “in-house” unit. As DG Solicitors use the same systems as we do, we offer a seamless transition to issue legal proceedings, if necessary.
If you have had any dealings with DG Solicitors, whether good or bad, then feel free to share your experiences on this thread.

 

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"As DG Solicitors use the same systems as we do, we offer a seamless transition to issue legal proceedings, if necessary."

 

hmm, why do they need us to send them details of our charges history then?

HSBC- £4995, settled payment in full

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"As DG Solicitors use the same systems as we do, we offer a seamless transition to issue legal proceedings, if necessary."

 

hmm, why do they need us to send them details of our charges history then?

 

maybe they want us to work for our money:D

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yeah sure i dont mind

 

say £30/hour, thats reasonable i think

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HSBC- £4995, settled payment in full

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For cases where the standard charges do not apply, DG Solicitors will charge their time on a ‘time spent basis’ at the competitive rate of two thirds of the general market rate. Their current charge rate is £100 per hour plus VAT.

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Hi guys,

 

thanks for all the links to DG Solicitors, and contact information. Is anyone aware of an email address for them, or is it best to use a fax?

 

I submitted by claim on Tuesday, and haven't heard from them yet, but want to speed things up a bit. I have my breakdown of costs ready to send so don't want them to faff about for a few extra days for the sake of it...

 

Thanks,

 

WendyN

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i faxed them my charges breakdown and got my settlement two days later ;)

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They are going to choke when they get the claim I raised today...for the invoices I issued in bringing unlawful "charges pending" to their attention...

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Has anybody got an email address for them at all?

 

 

 

 

edited: typo

HSBC - Received offer for 3621, accepted confidentiality crossed out. Money in bank 10/10/06!

 

Barclaycard - 180.00 LBA sent 5/10/2006

72.00 offered, rejected.

 

MBNA - S.A.R sent 13/9/2006 :idea:

 

Mint - 244.00 prelim sent 30/9/2006

 

Dorothy Perkins and GE money - S.A.R sent 30/9/2006

 

Simpley BE - S.A.R sent 30/9/2006

 

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They are going to choke when they get the claim I raised today...for the invoices I issued in bringing unlawful "charges pending" to their attention...

 

How did this go?

 

Also, you might be pleased to know that I am referring DG to the law society - check out the process in the un1boy vs hsbc - SETTLED thread below

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i faxed them my charges breakdown and got my settlement two days later ;)

 

I received an Acknowledgement of Service claim from HSBC on 30 January, 2007, where they intended to 'defend all the claim'. This was followed up with a request for a fully itemised breakdown of the amount claimed by DG on 14 February 2007. I faxed this information over to them on 16 February 2007. Unfortunately they haven't been so prompt in responding as i have yet to hear from them. No chance getting through via telephone either...It's now 28 February 2007. :-x

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it would be best larry if you start your own thread - just look at top of bottom of the forum list for "new thread", it's a smallish blue oblong and press and you are away.

this is entirely normal for them(dg) - as it has now been 28 days from your issue date - can you try to press the judgment button on the mcol? try it. that will tell you if they have entered their defence - perhaps you submitted an n1 in which case you could ring the court to see if they have submitted their defence. so,start your own thread - or we'll never be able to find you - and let us know what you find out - we can help you from this point if we know where you stand.

you could also ring dg to see if they received your breakdown;

here are some dg phone numbers:

0121 455 2111 (Debbie)

0121 455 2701 (Rachael)

0121 455 2196 (Kate)

 

mostly you get voicemail - but you could leave your name, claim no., tele. no. and ask they to get back to you and that you wish to know if they received your breakdown.

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Hi all, just thought you might like to know that I am also at the notice to defend stage with HSBC, in the interests of dispute resolution I have attempted to phone them as the date for filing the defence is approaching and they have responded with "we will respond within the guidlines set by the FSA which is 8 weeks" I asked if they were recording the call they said yes so I asked if they viewed the FSA or the court as the higher authority, so they said FSA, I repeated this in about 3 different ways and the response was always "we follow the FSA guidelines" maybe someone who knows someone in the press might appreciate that the banks obviously think they are either above or outside the law !

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maybe they want us to work for our money:D

 

 

 

What on earth do you mean?

 

I did work for that money and they took it off me.

 

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they are not very helpfull at all idid manage to get another number from hsbc bank cause those numbers you get are to there voive mail covenient hey

 

rachael 0121 455 2753

debbie 0121 455 2749

 

 

goodluck everyone as i have trying to get my money back since nov 2006

i did get a letter of an offer back may 2007 since then nothing

 

come on where is my money EDIT

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I received a defence from DG solicitors instructing me that they refuse that HSBC owe me any money what soever.

 

However HSBC sent me on numerous ocasions and on the same day i recioved the defence i received a further partial offer.

 

I am waiting further instructions from the judge can any one help ?

 

I have already sent them a letter objecting to the partial settlement.

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Hi All,

 

Have read loads on here and sent my letter requesting my statements which I have never heard back from, so after the 40 days (ie today) I have gone online with HSBC and calculated all charges a total of £3225 inlcuding 8% interest.

 

This letter is going today, obviously par for the course wait 14 days and then send the LBA letter...

 

When should I contact this DG Solicitors group?!

 

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