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    • Is the letter headed Letter of Claim/before Claim or similar? If not, it sounds like more of the threatogram chain. If you're not sure, post up an anonymised copy of the letter and we'll check. HB
    • So guess what, we have received a final demand letter for £100. It states if payment is not made by 11/06 they will have no option but to forward the case to their litigation dept with a view to commence County Court Proceedings. So just wondering if anyone has any advice. Do we ignore this? or do we need to take action? Thanks 
    • hi dx, thanks for helping just re-reading everything this morning and I must have missed this one from uncle in his thread "What you should not do, is not contact the Banks and simply default on payments. "  are you in disagreement with this based on your last sentence?
    • Thanks for the reply and clarification, that might just explain why in my case contact has pretty much ceased. Though with such companies it doesn't mean they won't ever threaten to return to court as a tool to force one's hand if they feel they are not self informed on their chances etc.  But concerning how last year they tried to use the CCJ to get a charging order and the court granted an intirum order on our mortgage using the CCJ that would have been a good 2-3 months beyond the 6 years, should the court not have checked the age of the CCJ in the first case or would they always grant an interim order simply off the back of a CCJ being produced without even checking the age of it?.  Had I not defended that action at the time they may well have got a default using a CCJ older than 6 years which could be a concern going forwards. At the time when I contacted the court to question the paperwork for a final order application the clerk suggested people don't get informed when companies apply for interim charging orders, they are automatic if a claimant has a CCJ and people only get contacted once a date for a final order application goes through. kind of begs the question if such companies can continue a seemingly backdoor method to attempt default action if un-defended if the initial application doesn't need to check the age of a CCJ?.
    • Hello!  Wondering if someone can help with this.  I suspect not but worth a go.  I appreciate the "contract is with the seller" line, which is what Evri has fed me but wanted to see if someone with experience in these things could suggest anything else I could do here.  I appreciate there are many topics about lost parcels - My parcels weren't lost, until the driver walked up to my door with them and then decided to make them lost/stolen... I'll summarise what has happened.  Wednesday of last week - Evri delivery driver stole / walked off with 3 of my parcels.  -  Arrived outside my properly, took photos (3 separate photos as its 3 separate deliveries) of the tops of the parcels (pointlessly zoomed in on just the labels, couldn't see anything else, other than a small piece of the pavement and a little weed, which doubly confirms it was outside my door as I can see the same plant), marked the order as delivered and walked off with them.  He's marked on the Evri GPS marked that he was outside.   -  3 different deliveries, from the same company (same boxes etc.), but 3 separate tracking numbers. -  Went through the Evri bot which opened a case on each tracking number.  I then phoned them and left a voicemail explaining what had happened. -  24 hours later had a canned response asking me if the packages had turned up and to check around etc..  I responded explaining again what happened and that they've definitely been taken. -  4 days later,  this morning, I get a response telling me to ask the merchant to refund me. I've responded to this message with a long email, repeating what I said, that I believe the driver has stolen these packages and that he took those suspicious top down shots of the packages, marked them as delivered without ringing or knocking etc.  I've said that I expect them to investigate further, but I gather they won't. In my several messages to them initially and later, I told them I don't care about a refund and wanted the parcels.  They contain some sentimental stuff, nothing of high monetary value, hence me going to this trouble.  I only paid £25 for the contents. I did contact the merchant when this first happened and they asked me to wait a few days.  They ended up refunding me despite me asking them not to and that I wanted them to escalate it with Evri because this appears to be a case of theft.  They didn't seem bothered - Refunded me and told me to go back to Evri and escalate it with them? So - Is there any way to compel Evri to conduct a proper investigation with this driver?  Search for my parcels? I have quite a lot of deliveries handled by Evri (not out of choice) - They used to have a fantastic chap and I rarely had any issues.  He has been replaced by a new guy and I believe the route is handled by this same guy who I believe has taken my packages.  Naturally, I fear this is going to happen again in the future if no investigation occurs. Appreciate any assistance - Thanks for reading. Al.  
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First off please be patient this could be a long story and I have started incorrrectly by posting this orginally in the wrong forum APOLOGIES TO ALL

 

Powergen Gas...my son moved into a small 2 bed flat shared which is above shops and surrounded by other flats. Radiators turned off not required. Hot water used for showers and occasional dish washing! We are trying to sort their bills out ..seems it cannot be correct. Is 109 units an average amount per month for just Hot water? 2 people out most of the day and night. ..as working 21yr old are! We really cant understand the bill at all. Its been paid...but a complaint registered. There will of course now be another one due any minute. (I can give fuller details including details from the previous tenants bill which arrived after she left showing substancial credits) She took readings when she left and readings have been taken recently. Friends who are with powergen pay far less and they have 5 adults and a gas hob. Shower frequently etc . Can I have advice please?

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First of all - are the readings on the bill actual reads or estimates? I know you said readings had been taken recently but have these actually been used to calculate the bill? And when the previous tenant moved out, did your son take his own readings, or just trust that the previous tenant's were correct?

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Hi thanks for reply Mree They 'think' they gave actual readings to powergen when they advised they were new tenants. The readings on the prev tenant bill and the inventory from the flat Agent are the same

03345.241 that was 30 Nov 2006. My sons start date.

 

First bill after that was dated 7 feb 2007 :-

elec 17.43

gas 22.99

dual fuel disc 1.21cr

vat 1.96

 

total 41.17 Not got the original showing all figs That bill was paid in march-----------------------------------------------------

 

Charges up top 30 April 2007

Previous 3403 Est 7 feb 07

current 4070 Est 30 april 07

diff 667 units

converted 7460

 

primary 1027 3.559p 36.55

secondary 6433 2.83p 182.05

218.60

 

then it reads

 

Previous 4070 est 30 pril 07

current 4184 read by you 14 may 07

diff 114 units

converted 1275

 

primary 175 3.081p 5.39

secondary 1100 2.451 26.96

 

TOTAL GAS CHARGES 250.95 :shock:

That was eentually paid after many calls getting nowhere but given extra time to pay..on 8/8/07 Powergen were told to expect a complaint letter

 

 

 

Sunday August 5th he read the meter and it was 0421602.

 

There had been problems with boiler on and off so 1/2 the time they have been there has been very little hot water. They were assured it would not affect the usage of gas. There is a carbon monoxide tester in the flat which is ok. Anyone else I have spoken to are horrified at the bill as they all have much more usage and pay no where near the amount.

Can someone help please?

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Ok, thanks for that. I would immediately assume just from that information then that the February bill was underestimated as £22.99 for a quarter in the winter period is very low. Have you spoken to anyone in the consumption team at Powergen? If not then request to speak to someone in that department. They will ask what gas appliances are being used, how the property is heated, particulary over the winter period which would have covered the November to February period.

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Hi Clare..yes they did speak to someone in the comsumption dept....I was not there so not sure exactly what was said. It should be very low as the radiators have not been on, the flat is above shops and surrounded all around by other flats. Gas used only showers and hot water. They are hardly in the place as both work

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Still not received an answer from them BUT a seperate electricity bill arrived for a very low amount (Never before been billed seperately) They have now left the flat and sent final readings. How on earth can we get them to answer???? Of course Powergen have they money now.

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After another call I finally got a sensible person and an answer He reckoned the initall reading was wrong ....not sure about that ...but it seemed a bit random as if his revised start reading was a suggestion...however the result is a revised bill resulting in a 172£ credit!!!!!!!!!!! Cheque not recieved yet...so watch this space. )During this time there was also another electicy bill applied to my son and flat mate that had nothing to do with them ,in fact a different meter, no idea where it was etc. Another call and that was wiped off and the threatened court action cancelled . It seems sometimes personal calls can be effective....yes I know not all ways! I will post here when the cheque arrives!

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Bill received showing a credit of £176! great but no cheque arrived Called them and they had a note stating that we would phone to ask for cheque! Asked for it to be sent.....suddenly thought the bill is in 2 names but they do not have a joint account.....more problems each had to call and state it could be sent in just l persons name !!!!!!!!! A further wait. (the last contact said 'Well its been less than l calendar month so far.'......... well no actually its been about 5 months!

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