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    • thanks dx did i check the wrong thing , i havent checked any credit file as i have no credit at all not in well over 7 years now all bills are in my husbands name, have joint building society account for our state pensions to go in thats it for me, do not want any credit either at our age we just pay the bills when we get them
    • I have been doing a lot of reading but the intricacies of legalities is not always obvious to someone like me  and it’s a lot to take in for someone new to this So how else is it served?  so by that it seems you are saying that they will need proof of postage or will a judge accept that on the balance of probabilities a large company will likely to have sent it?   
    • @jk2054 Thank you for this detailed response, and appreciate you are responding while busy.  In response to your points: In regards to the £25 and £4.82 paid by packlink, in my witness statement, it is clearly explained that this amount of £29.82 is not in dispute. I agree with you that I will focus on claiming under the contract you have with EVRi as you entered into a direct contract with them according to packlink T&Cs.  I also agree that I will focus on terms 3b and 3c of the Packlink T&Cs and apply rights as a consumer, and use the third party as a backup if required.  Does it mean a new witness statement will need drafting to send to the court / Evri?  As per my previous post #246, I am thinking of sending an email to Evri and the court, that I have already sent my WS to them by post/email and attach the email that was sent last weekend to them containing my WS. In the email, is it worthwhile also telling Evri that I will be making a point to the judge that: the Packlink T&Cs provided by Evri in their witness statement clearly explains in terms 3b/3c that when a transport agency (Evri) is chosen by a user (myself), a contract is formed by the user and transport agency. Therefore, Evri's view that there is no contract is flawed, as under the T&Cs, there is a contract formed when I chose for my parcel to be delivered by Evri via Packlink. Evri's own T&Cs also state when a parcel is sent with Evri, a contract is formed between the sender and Evri. Happy to get any more thoughts on the above and then I will send the email either tomorrow or by Monday.  @BankFodder I have provided the screenshots and information you requested in post #248. Please let me know if there is anything you want to add to the above, before i send the email out to Evri and the court. FYI - Court date is in 2 weeks on 7th June.
    • as long as all your old addresses are showing on your credit file. there can be no CCJ, backdoor or otherwise. dx  
    • hi word for word the message says please contact us now on 03333201829 or an enforcement agent will visit you and a minimum fee of £235 {set by legislation} will be added to your balance quote re ++++++ that was sent on 20th feb, i then checked on the register judgements and fines website to see if there were any ccjs but it was clear,i checked old address and my new adddress,  will probably check again to see if there is anything  thanks for your help   
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      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

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