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    • further polished WS using above suggestions and also included couple of more modifications highlighted in orange are those ok to include?   Background   1.1  The Defendant received the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) on the 06th of January 2020 following the vehicle being parked at Arla Old Dairy, South Ruislip on the 05th of December 2019.   Unfair PCN   2.1  On 19th December 2023 the Defendant sent the Claimant's solicitors a CPR request.  As shown in Exhibit 1 (pages 7-13) sent by the solicitors the signage displayed in their evidence clearly shows a £60.00 parking charge notice (which will be reduced to £30 if paid within 14 days of issue).  2.2  Yet the PCN sent by the Claimant is for a £100.00 parking charge notice (reduced to £60 if paid within 30 days of issue).   2.3        The Claimant relies on signage to create a contract.  It is unlawful for the Claimant to write that the charge is £60 on their signs and then send demands for £100.    2.4        The unlawful £100 charge is also the basis for the Claimant's Particulars of Claim.  No Locus Standi  3.1  I do not believe a contract with the landowner, that is provided following the defendant’s CPR request, gives MET Parking Services a right to bring claims in their own name. Definition of “Relevant contract” from the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4,  2 [1] means a contract Including a contract arising only when the vehicle was parked on the relevant land between the driver and a person who is-   (a) the owner or occupier of the land; or   (b) Authorised, under or by virtue of arrangements made by the owner or occupier of the land, to enter into a contract with the driver requiring the payment of parking charges in respect of the parking of the vehicle on the land. According to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/section/44   For a contract to be valid, it requires a director from each company to sign and then two independent witnesses must confirm those signatures.   3.2  The Defendant requested to see such a contract in the CPR request.  The fact that no contract has been produced with the witness signatures present means the contract has not been validly executed. Therefore, there can be no contract established between MET Parking Services and the motorist. Even if “Parking in Electric Bay” could form a contract (which it cannot), it is immaterial. There is no valid contract.  Illegal Conduct – No Contract Formed   4.1 At the time of writing, the Claimant has failed to provide the following, in response to the CPR request from myself.   4.2        The legal contract between the Claimant and the landowner (which in this case is Standard Life Investments UK) to provide evidence that there is an agreement in place with landowner with the necessary authority to issue parking charge notices and to pursue payment by means of litigation.   4.3 Proof of planning permission granted for signage etc under the Town and country Planning Act 1990. Lack of planning permission is a criminal offence under this Act and no contract can be formed where criminality is involved.   4.4        I also do not believe the claimant possesses these documents.   No Keeper Liability   5.1        The defendant was not the driver at the time and date mentioned in the PCN and the claimant has not established keeper liability under schedule 4 of the PoFA 2012. In this matter, the defendant puts it to the claimant to produce strict proof as to who was driving at the time.   5.2 The claimant in their Notice To Keeper also failed to comply with PoFA 2012 Schedule 4 section 9[2][f] while mentioning “the right to recover from the keeper so much of that parking charge as remains unpaid” where they did not include statement “(if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met)”.     5.3         The claimant did not mention parking period, times on the photographs are separate from the PCN and in any case are that arrival and departure times not the parking period since their times include driving to and from the parking space as a minimum and can include extra time to allow pedestrians and other vehicles to pass in front.    Protection of Freedoms Act 2012   The notice must -   (a) specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;  22. In the persuasive judgement K4GF167G - Premier Park Ltd v Mr Mathur - Horsham County Court – 5 January 2024 it was on this very point that the judge dismissed this claim.  5.4  A the PCN does not comply with the Act the Defendant as keeper is not liable.  No Breach of Contract   6.1       No breach of contract occurred because the PCN and contract provided as part of the defendant’s CPR request shows different post code, PCN shows HA4 0EY while contract shows HA4 0FY. According to PCN defendant parked on HA4 0EY which does not appear to be subject to the postcode covered by the contract.  6.2         The entrance sign does not mention anything about there being other terms inside the car park so does not offer a contract which makes it only an offer to treat,  Interest  7.1  It is unreasonable for the Claimant to delay litigation for  Double Recovery   7.2  The claim is littered with made-up charges.  7.3  As noted above, the Claimant's signs state a £60 charge yet their PCN is for £100.  7.4  As well as the £100 parking charge, the Claimant seeks recovery of an additional £70.  This is simply a poor attempt to circumvent the legal costs cap at small claims.  7.5 Since 2019, many County Courts have considered claims in excess of £100 to be an abuse of process leading to them being struck out ab initio. An example, in the Caernarfon Court in VCS v Davies, case No. FTQZ4W28 on 4th September 2019, District Judge Jones-Evans stated “Upon it being recorded that District Judge Jones- Evans has over a very significant period of time warned advocates (...) in many cases of this nature before this court that their claim for £60 is unenforceable in law and is an abuse of process and is nothing more than a poor attempt to go behind the decision of the Supreme Court v Beavis which inter alia decided that a figure of £160 as a global sum claimed in this case would be a penalty and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss and therefore unenforceable in law and if the practice continued, he would treat all cases as a claim for £160 and therefore a penalty and unenforceable in law it is hereby declared (…) the claim is struck out and declared to be wholly without merit and an abuse of process.”  7.6 In Claim Nos. F0DP806M and F0DP201T, District Judge Taylor echoed earlier General Judgment or Orders of District Judge Grand, stating ''It is ordered that the claim is struck out as an abuse of process. The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the Defendant contracted to pay. This additional charge is not recoverabl15e under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4 nor with reference to the judgment in Parking Eye v Beavis. It is an abuse of process from the Claimant to issue a knowingly inflated claim for an additional sum which it is not entitled to recover. This order has been made by the court of its own initiative without a hearing pursuant to CPR Rule 3.3(4)) of the Civil Procedure Rules 1998...''  7.7 In the persuasive case of G4QZ465V - Excel Parking Services Ltd v Wilkinson – Bradford County Court -2 July 2020 (Exhibit 4) the judge had decided that Excel had won. However, due to Excel adding on the £60 the Judge dismissed the case.  7.8        The addition of costs not previously specified on signage are also in breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015, Schedule 2, specifically paras 6, 10 and 14.   7.9        It is the Defendant’s position that the Claimant in this case has knowingly submitted inflated costs and thus the entire claim should be similarly struck out in accordance with Civil Procedure Rule 3.3(4).   In Conclusion   8.1        I invite the court to dismiss the claim.  Statement of Truth  I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.   
    • Well the difference is that in all our other cases It was Kev who was trying to entrap the motorist so sticking two fingers up to him and daring him to try court was from a position of strength. In your case, sorry, you made a mistake so you're not in the position of strength.  I've looked on Google Maps and the signs are few & far between as per Kev's MO, but there is an entrance sign saying "Pay & Display" (and you've admitted in writing that you knew you had to pay) and the signs by the payment machines do say "Sea View Car Park" (and you've admitted in writing you paid the wrong car park ... and maybe outed yourself as the driver). Something I missed in my previous post is that the LoC is only for one ticket, not two. Sorry, but it's impossible to definitively advise what to so. Personally I'd probably gamble on Kev being a serial bottler of court and reply with a snotty letter ridiculing the signage (given you mentioned the signage in your appeal) - but it is a gamble.  
    • No! What has happened is that your pix were up-to-date: 5 hours' maximum stay and £100 PCN. The lazy solicitors have sent ancient pictures: 4 hours' maximum stay and £60 PCN. Don't let on!  Let them be hoisted by their own lazy petard in the court hearing (if they don't bottle before).
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Oops I may of mislead you all I have sent my AQ and Draft order which had to be in before the 27/07/07 which it has I telephoned the court who state that Bs haven't sent in anything other than the Notice of defense.

 

I was under the impression that they also had to file a AQ before the 27th of July to which I was told by the Courts that Bs haven't and they told be to send a Request for Judgment is this correct as I just assume I wait for the Courts to allocate my claim set the date (possible November 2007 ), issue directions etc etc and wait as Bs told me over the phone that they will not be doing anything until the Test Case.

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How do I apply to have their defence thrown out and receive judgment in my favour

can I send the the "Request for Judgment" slip.

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Is there a general letter to get Bs (Banks) to have the defence thrown out of court.

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Cardiff Civil Justice Centre

12 Park Street

Cardiff

CF10 1ET

Date: 31/07/07

Dear Judge.

Claim Number: 7xxxxx

 

Claimant: xxxx xxxx vs Defendant: Barclays Bank PLC.

 

Please can the Barclays defence be struck out for not submitting their Allocation Questionnaire and returning there Allocation Questionnaire on or before 27th of July 2007.

which has now passed.

 

Your Sincerly

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You are able to apply to the court for default judgement for failure to comply with protocols.

Under section 3.4 of the civil procedure rules - in particular rule 3.4.4 they have not complied with the Protocols as per the time frame given for filing the allocation questionaire. Linkhere

 

The application to the court is to have the defence struck out due to failure to comply with protocols under section 3.4.4 and that summary judgement be granted.

3 Active Claims:

Barclays Refund of Bank Charges (Sole account) - Applied to lift court ordered Stay

Barclays Refund of Bank Charges (Joint account) - Awaiting court date

Barclays Refund of Bank Charges (Joint account) Pre-6 yrs- LBA sent.

 

 

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Hi Please can you proof read and confirm if I can send this application to the courts.

 

 

Claimant xxxx xxxx Vs Barclays Bank PLC.

 

This application to the court is to have the Barclays Bank PLC defence struck out due to failure to comply with protocols under section 3.4.4 and that summary judgement be granted.

Power to strike out a statement of case

3.4

(1)

In this rule and rule 3.5, reference to a statement of case includes reference to part of a statement of case.

(2)

The court may strike out (GL) a statement of case if it appears to the court -

(a)

that the statement of case discloses no reasonable grounds for bringing or defending the claim;

(b)

that the statement of case is an abuse of the court's process or is otherwise likely to obstruct the just disposal of the proceedings; or

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that there has been a failure to comply with a rule, practice direction or court order.

(3)

When the court strikes out a statement of case it may make any consequential order it considers appropriate.

(4)

Where -

(a)

the court has struck out a claimant's statement of case;

(b)

the claimant has been ordered to pay costs to the defendant; and

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before the claimant pays those costs, he starts another claim against the same defendant, arising out of facts which are the same or substantially the same as those relating to the claim in which the statement of case was struck out,

the court may, on the application of the defendant, stay (GL) that other claim until the costs of the first claim have been paid.

(5)

Paragraph (2) does not limit any other power of the court to strike out (GL) a statement of case.

(6)

If the court strikes out a claimant's statement of case and it considers that the claim is totally without merit -

(a)

the court's order must record that fact; and

(b)

the court must at the same time consider whether it is appropriate to make a civil restraint order.

 

 

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Welshcakes - Here is my draft is this sendable Thx

 

Cardiff Civil Justice Centre

12 Park Street

Cardiff

CF10 1ET

Date: 01/08007

Claim Number: 7CFXXXX

 

Claimant: XXXXXX XXXXXX Vs Barclays Bank PLC.

 

Dear Judge

 

I am applying to the court for default judgment for failure to comply with protocols.

 

This application to the court is to have the Barclays Bank PLC defense struck out due to failure to comply with protocols under section 3.4.4 and that summary judgement be granted.

 

Under section 3.4 of the civil procedure rules - in particular rule 3.4.4 that Barclays Bank PLC have not complied with the Protocols as per the time frame given for filing the Allocation Questionnaire

Power to strike out a statement of case

3.4

(1)

In this rule and rule 3.5, reference to a statement of case includes reference to part of a statement of case.

(2)

The court may strike out (GL) a statement of case if it appears to the court -

(a)

that the statement of case discloses no reasonable grounds for bringing or defending the claim;

(b)

that the statement of case is an abuse of the court's process or is otherwise likely to obstruct the just disposal of the proceedings; or

©

that there has been a failure to comply with a rule, practice direction or court order.

(3)

When the court strikes out a statement of case it may make any consequential order it considers appropriate.

(4)

Where -

(a)

the court has struck out a claimant's statement of case;

(b)

the claimant has been ordered to pay costs to the defendant; and

©

before the claimant pays those costs, he starts another claim against the same defendant, arising out of facts which are the same or substantially the same as those relating to the claim in which the statement of case was struck out,

the court may, on the application of the defendant, stay (GL) that other claim until the costs of the first claim have been paid.

(5)

Paragraph (2) does not limit any other power of the court to strike out (GL) a statement of case.

(6)

If the court strikes out a claimant's statement of case and it considers that the claim is totally without merit -

(a)

the court's order must record that fact; and

(b)

the court must at the same time consider whether it is appropriate to make a civil restraint order.

 

Yours Sincerely

 

 

 

XXXXXX

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Hi A-I,

 

Sorry to butt in but, from my reading of the link, isn't the section you require 3.4 (2c) where B's have failed to comply with Court Directions.

 

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Thanks for that I will use that one after re reading and digesting it all.

But I have heard that this move would cost me possible £65.00 in court from a CAG member who spoke to the Courts.

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Hi List well I got a Court Date for November so peeed off haven't bothered noting the date!. As what I have read and digested is that it will fall under the so called "Stay of Notice" and like most ppl will be confirmed once a " Test Case" is over and possible appealed if we win.

 

Thus while my case is pending and ready to got to court can I have any more charges differed or set to a more comfortable figure until this is concluded.

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Hi A-I,

 

So I take it B's submitted their AQ and it was accepted by the Court and it's next due for review in November.

 

Take heart that some cases are still being won because the banks are being lazy and complacent.

 

If your case has not been Stayed by your Court, you can prepare to fight a Stay if it is sought by B's in November.

 

Have a look here - http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/barclays-bank/108691-success-after-oft-anouncement.html - for some inspirational reading.

 

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Telephoned the Courts - Yes my case and others on the 14th of November will be "Stayed".

 

Great Country this work hard, taxed hard it rains most of the time and the Law's that be rain on us as well! without any hesitation What's Great about living in Great Britain imao.

 

Thx slickwilly132 for a bit of inspirational reading.

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A-I, Seeing your post on the Cardiff thread, it looked like you had different directions. It's seems v confused there in Wales.

 

I see the inspiration didn't last too long then. LMAO too!

 

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Hi Slickwilly132 I did get a updated letter that mine is also under "Stay" thus have I got to send anything to the courts i.e my court bundle plus is there information on the next procedures so I can read and digest and prepare for what ever arises next!.

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If Court says you're Stayed, all you can do is apply for Stay to be lifted - http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/bank-templates-library/17065-application-removal-stay-updated.html#post1046820.

 

Bundle is only needed when Court asks for it from you.

 

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Ok Thanks slickwilly132 thus will wait like every one else had enough of sending letters and forms that usually go in the favor of the Banks Thx again.

 

Thus suppose will get directions on what is required next after the 14th of November 2007 and will be informed on what to send or do.

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Hi List I have been away as I had basically 2 Months before my "Stay" November 14th So Please can anyone confirm that I don't need to turn up and wait for the Judges direction that both parties wait until the OFT/FSA Judgment! end of Year or early January 2008.

 

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Hi African,

 

I'd give the court a ring, just to make sure nothing's expected of you.

 

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Hi Forum

 

I am going to contact the Courts today I also hear on the grape vine that the Test case is possible the Jan 14th 2008.

 

Not long I am looking forward to adding the s69 interest to date I have already switched Current Account - I didn't close it, I have a overdraft limit of £1500 and I owe them £800 so I intend to pay £75 off each month So I am not getting hammered by £35 * 3 sometimes £35.00 * 4 charges for going over my overdraft lol.

 

So I will not be intimidated and what ever happens I will go for the full amount they over charged me! with interest.

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Igbo,

Cant believe you are STILL going...LOL

these things reeeally seem to be dragging out now dont they...

 

Right

Unless your court DIRECTLY informs you NOT to attend the hearing then you MUST.....If you do not they may kick it out..

 

If you hear from the bank advising you that there is no need to attend IGNORE it....DO NOT take directions from the bank.

 

As advised, contact the court, ...make a note of the time, date and who you speak to,,,,if they inform you that you do NOT need to attend... tell them you want it put in writing and sent to you.

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http://news.sky.com/skynews/madeleine

 

If I dont reply to a direct question please feel free to PM me.

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