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I started a NatWest claim at the same time as this Lloyds TSB claim, so posting here also to keep track of whats going off etc.

 

My letter requesting statements/charges was sent off today to LTBS via 1st class recorded delivery.

 

Tracking number for personal reference is: DH839767149GB.

 

Kinda worried about the whole process but the fact I want my money back is greater than worry :lol:

 

Lisa

 

NatWest:

23/4/07 - Requested statements NatWest

10/5/07 - Received 1st set of statements

12/5/07 - Remaining statements arrived. Proceeding NatWest claim for £2,235.14

14/5/07 - Pre-lim letter sent

01/6/07 - LBA letter sent

22/6/07 - Filed money claim at court! *gasp*

27/7/07 - Received official defence and bully cr*p!

 

LTSB:

23/4/07 - Requested statements LTSB

31/5/07 - List of charges received. Proceeding LTSB claim for £1,407.50

01/6/07 - Pre-lim letter sent.

09/6/07 - Received a 'bugger off' letter.

21/6/07 - LBA letter sent.

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Good luck - keep us posted.
Will do.

 

Just thinking about calculating the fees when I get my statements. I used to have an overdraft, which I don't anymore. Their overdraft charges at the time, can I claim those back as charges or is it just the returned DD/failed cheques etc charges to claim back?

 

Thanks in advance.

Lisa

 

NatWest:

23/4/07 - Requested statements NatWest

10/5/07 - Received 1st set of statements

12/5/07 - Remaining statements arrived. Proceeding NatWest claim for £2,235.14

14/5/07 - Pre-lim letter sent

01/6/07 - LBA letter sent

22/6/07 - Filed money claim at court! *gasp*

27/7/07 - Received official defence and bully cr*p!

 

LTSB:

23/4/07 - Requested statements LTSB

31/5/07 - List of charges received. Proceeding LTSB claim for £1,407.50

01/6/07 - Pre-lim letter sent.

09/6/07 - Received a 'bugger off' letter.

21/6/07 - LBA letter sent.

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Lisa - When you know the money is yours, but its just a matter of time before you get it, it's all gravy !! Just a shame LTSB and [problem] can't get it into their heads that putting off the inevitable is a shameful waste of time !

 

Have fun :D

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All depends what charges you are referring to - what are the charges called on your statements?
I haven't got my statements yet so couldn't tell you but I am referring to the % they charge when you are in your overdraft and possibly charges for going over an unauthorised overdraft?

 

Thanks,

Lisa

 

NatWest:

23/4/07 - Requested statements NatWest

10/5/07 - Received 1st set of statements

12/5/07 - Remaining statements arrived. Proceeding NatWest claim for £2,235.14

14/5/07 - Pre-lim letter sent

01/6/07 - LBA letter sent

22/6/07 - Filed money claim at court! *gasp*

27/7/07 - Received official defence and bully cr*p!

 

LTSB:

23/4/07 - Requested statements LTSB

31/5/07 - List of charges received. Proceeding LTSB claim for £1,407.50

01/6/07 - Pre-lim letter sent.

09/6/07 - Received a 'bugger off' letter.

21/6/07 - LBA letter sent.

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Tracking number for personal reference is: DH839767149GB
They received my letter today!!!!

 

Your item with reference DH839767149GB was delivered from our BIRMINGHAM Delivery Office on 24/04/07 .

 

Thank you for using this service.

And so it's ON! :)

 

NatWest:

23/4/07 - Requested statements NatWest

10/5/07 - Received 1st set of statements

12/5/07 - Remaining statements arrived. Proceeding NatWest claim for £2,235.14

14/5/07 - Pre-lim letter sent

01/6/07 - LBA letter sent

22/6/07 - Filed money claim at court! *gasp*

27/7/07 - Received official defence and bully cr*p!

 

LTSB:

23/4/07 - Requested statements LTSB

31/5/07 - List of charges received. Proceeding LTSB claim for £1,407.50

01/6/07 - Pre-lim letter sent.

09/6/07 - Received a 'bugger off' letter.

21/6/07 - LBA letter sent.

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hey bebe i am here.

 

we gonna do this together? im going to send off statement request today.

 

we can spend our winnings together right???

Woo my best friend is here. Yeh, we can do this together and spend the winnings in Weatherspoons on WooWoo's and Lust cocktails! :lol::D

 

NatWest:

23/4/07 - Requested statements NatWest

10/5/07 - Received 1st set of statements

12/5/07 - Remaining statements arrived. Proceeding NatWest claim for £2,235.14

14/5/07 - Pre-lim letter sent

01/6/07 - LBA letter sent

22/6/07 - Filed money claim at court! *gasp*

27/7/07 - Received official defence and bully cr*p!

 

LTSB:

23/4/07 - Requested statements LTSB

31/5/07 - List of charges received. Proceeding LTSB claim for £1,407.50

01/6/07 - Pre-lim letter sent.

09/6/07 - Received a 'bugger off' letter.

21/6/07 - LBA letter sent.

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Not heard nothing from TSB at all. Although I do know they have until Friday 8th June to comply (40 days.)

 

They charged me another 2 charges today at £35 each (£70) and says unpaid S/O and Unpaid D/D although there hasn't been any unpaid DD's SO's on my account as far as I can see *shrug*

 

I'll be adding them when I get my statements!!!

 

NatWest:

23/4/07 - Requested statements NatWest

10/5/07 - Received 1st set of statements

12/5/07 - Remaining statements arrived. Proceeding NatWest claim for £2,235.14

14/5/07 - Pre-lim letter sent

01/6/07 - LBA letter sent

22/6/07 - Filed money claim at court! *gasp*

27/7/07 - Received official defence and bully cr*p!

 

LTSB:

23/4/07 - Requested statements LTSB

31/5/07 - List of charges received. Proceeding LTSB claim for £1,407.50

01/6/07 - Pre-lim letter sent.

09/6/07 - Received a 'bugger off' letter.

21/6/07 - LBA letter sent.

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Just wondering if anyone here sent another letter after so long just reminding them about the S.A.R and days left etc? Not heard anything at all from them and I know time is not up but thought a gentle reminder in the post might push them a little :)

 

NatWest:

23/4/07 - Requested statements NatWest

10/5/07 - Received 1st set of statements

12/5/07 - Remaining statements arrived. Proceeding NatWest claim for £2,235.14

14/5/07 - Pre-lim letter sent

01/6/07 - LBA letter sent

22/6/07 - Filed money claim at court! *gasp*

27/7/07 - Received official defence and bully cr*p!

 

LTSB:

23/4/07 - Requested statements LTSB

31/5/07 - List of charges received. Proceeding LTSB claim for £1,407.50

01/6/07 - Pre-lim letter sent.

09/6/07 - Received a 'bugger off' letter.

21/6/07 - LBA letter sent.

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Not yet. Neither has NatWest, but I have their statements thoguh *shrug*

 

NatWest:

23/4/07 - Requested statements NatWest

10/5/07 - Received 1st set of statements

12/5/07 - Remaining statements arrived. Proceeding NatWest claim for £2,235.14

14/5/07 - Pre-lim letter sent

01/6/07 - LBA letter sent

22/6/07 - Filed money claim at court! *gasp*

27/7/07 - Received official defence and bully cr*p!

 

LTSB:

23/4/07 - Requested statements LTSB

31/5/07 - List of charges received. Proceeding LTSB claim for £1,407.50

01/6/07 - Pre-lim letter sent.

09/6/07 - Received a 'bugger off' letter.

21/6/07 - LBA letter sent.

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Hi all,

 

Can you advise me on the addres to send the prelim letter and LBA? I received a charges list today. They just sent me a list of charges over the past 6 years, no statements.

 

I sent the S.A.R to the following address but looks like I can't send Prelim and LBA to that address.

 

Mr Chris Brown

Lloyds TSB

Copy Statement Unit

Account Services

Group Operations

Swallow House

10 Swallow Street

Birmingham

B1 2AL

 

Thanks

Lisa

 

NatWest:

23/4/07 - Requested statements NatWest

10/5/07 - Received 1st set of statements

12/5/07 - Remaining statements arrived. Proceeding NatWest claim for £2,235.14

14/5/07 - Pre-lim letter sent

01/6/07 - LBA letter sent

22/6/07 - Filed money claim at court! *gasp*

27/7/07 - Received official defence and bully cr*p!

 

LTSB:

23/4/07 - Requested statements LTSB

31/5/07 - List of charges received. Proceeding LTSB claim for £1,407.50

01/6/07 - Pre-lim letter sent.

09/6/07 - Received a 'bugger off' letter.

21/6/07 - LBA letter sent.

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Thank you :)

 

NatWest:

23/4/07 - Requested statements NatWest

10/5/07 - Received 1st set of statements

12/5/07 - Remaining statements arrived. Proceeding NatWest claim for £2,235.14

14/5/07 - Pre-lim letter sent

01/6/07 - LBA letter sent

22/6/07 - Filed money claim at court! *gasp*

27/7/07 - Received official defence and bully cr*p!

 

LTSB:

23/4/07 - Requested statements LTSB

31/5/07 - List of charges received. Proceeding LTSB claim for £1,407.50

01/6/07 - Pre-lim letter sent.

09/6/07 - Received a 'bugger off' letter.

21/6/07 - LBA letter sent.

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List of charges arrived today. They haven't sent no statements just a print off of charges from the internet. Should I be asking for the statements too?

 

NatWest:

23/4/07 - Requested statements NatWest

10/5/07 - Received 1st set of statements

12/5/07 - Remaining statements arrived. Proceeding NatWest claim for £2,235.14

14/5/07 - Pre-lim letter sent

01/6/07 - LBA letter sent

22/6/07 - Filed money claim at court! *gasp*

27/7/07 - Received official defence and bully cr*p!

 

LTSB:

23/4/07 - Requested statements LTSB

31/5/07 - List of charges received. Proceeding LTSB claim for £1,407.50

01/6/07 - Pre-lim letter sent.

09/6/07 - Received a 'bugger off' letter.

21/6/07 - LBA letter sent.

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Pre-lim letter was sent yesterday. My husband accidentally sent it 2nd class so I estimate arrival on Monday next week.

 

For my ref: DH839767400GB

 

[EDIT] Forgot to mention that my claim comes up to £1,407.50 from Sept 01 - May 07.

 

NatWest:

23/4/07 - Requested statements NatWest

10/5/07 - Received 1st set of statements

12/5/07 - Remaining statements arrived. Proceeding NatWest claim for £2,235.14

14/5/07 - Pre-lim letter sent

01/6/07 - LBA letter sent

22/6/07 - Filed money claim at court! *gasp*

27/7/07 - Received official defence and bully cr*p!

 

LTSB:

23/4/07 - Requested statements LTSB

31/5/07 - List of charges received. Proceeding LTSB claim for £1,407.50

01/6/07 - Pre-lim letter sent.

09/6/07 - Received a 'bugger off' letter.

21/6/07 - LBA letter sent.

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Letter was received today at LTSB. I give them 14 days from today to respond, which will be the 18th June. Wish me luck :)

 

Your item with reference DH839767400GB was delivered from our ANDOVER Delivery Office on 04/06/07 .

 

Thank you for using this service.

 

NatWest:

23/4/07 - Requested statements NatWest

10/5/07 - Received 1st set of statements

12/5/07 - Remaining statements arrived. Proceeding NatWest claim for £2,235.14

14/5/07 - Pre-lim letter sent

01/6/07 - LBA letter sent

22/6/07 - Filed money claim at court! *gasp*

27/7/07 - Received official defence and bully cr*p!

 

LTSB:

23/4/07 - Requested statements LTSB

31/5/07 - List of charges received. Proceeding LTSB claim for £1,407.50

01/6/07 - Pre-lim letter sent.

09/6/07 - Received a 'bugger off' letter.

21/6/07 - LBA letter sent.

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Good luck .... keep us posted

 

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HERE WE GO AGAIN .... BRING IT ON

 

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I received a letter from LTSB today and in some parts it seems a standard bugger off letter there are other parts which have confused me. I will type below. I'd appreciate some help in this. I have bolded the parts in which they seem custom to me and need help on...

 

7th June

 

My Address details

etc

etc

 

 

Dear Mrs ::Lisa::

 

Thank you for getting in touch with us. I am sorry you are unhappy about your account charges.

 

Like any business, we do make a charge for some of our extra services. When customers don't have enough money in their accounts to cover a payment, this always means extra work - and it has to happen very quickly. We have to agree to make the payment by setting up or increasing an overdraft, or tell customers we can't agree it. We feel it's fair to charge for this service.

 

Of course it's only fair too, that we're completely open about any charged-for services before you might need them. That's why we take care to give every new customer the lately guide to our charges. You can also get up-to-date details about fees and borrowing rates at all our branches, through our helpline and on our website.

 

Just as importantly, we do everything we can to help our customers avoid these charges. You can get an up-to-date balance at any of our cash machines, over the phone, on line and by weekly text to your mobile.

 

If you know a payment is going to take you over the agreed limit, you're welcome to see if there's anything we can do.

 

The Office of Fair Trading has published new guidelines on credit card default charges. We're still talking it through with them, but the important point is that the guidelines are about 'default' charges that people pay when they break an agreement with us. This doesn't apply to your charges as these were for dealing with your request to go over your agreed overdraft limit. They are not default charges because you haven't broken your agreement. They are prices for the service we provide in these situations.

 

I understand that you may also have some concerns about us sharing information about your relationship with us with the credit reference agencies we use. I'd like to reassure you that this does not apply to bank charges; we only share what is known as white data, which is information about payments to your credit card, loan or mortgage accounts.

 

I do hope you can see that we make our charging system as fair as possible - and why I can't agree to cancel your charges.

 

If you have asked for copy statements and paid the fee, we'll send them to you within the 40 day limit set by the data protection act.

 

>

 

I hope this fully answers the points you raised with us. Please let me know if there is anything else I can do to help. If we cannot come to an agreement, I will provide you with details of the Financial Ombudsman Service to they can consider your complaint independently.

 

If you are happy with the way I dealt with your complaint, there is no need for you to reply to my letter. If I have not heard from you by the 2nd August 2007 I will close my file, though of course I will reopen it should you come back at any point afterwards.

 

Yours sincerely,

 

 

*computer squiggle*

 

 

Debbie Gilbert

Team Manager

Customer Service Recovery Centre Andover

 

Do I reply to this ASAP or just ignore it and send off LBA when Pre-lim time runs out.

 

Also, the bolded parts...

 

Why are they quoting credit card stuff when my account is a current (classic) account? They're also saying that my charges are service for the over the overdraft fee. Most of the charges I received were the Overdraft fee, but there were quite a few DD return fees (not many but still) which made me go over that limit.

 

I'm not sure why they're talking about the S.A.R statements too when it was clear I got a list of charges since I put that in the pre-lim letter.

 

Do I reply?

 

NatWest:

23/4/07 - Requested statements NatWest

10/5/07 - Received 1st set of statements

12/5/07 - Remaining statements arrived. Proceeding NatWest claim for £2,235.14

14/5/07 - Pre-lim letter sent

01/6/07 - LBA letter sent

22/6/07 - Filed money claim at court! *gasp*

27/7/07 - Received official defence and bully cr*p!

 

LTSB:

23/4/07 - Requested statements LTSB

31/5/07 - List of charges received. Proceeding LTSB claim for £1,407.50

01/6/07 - Pre-lim letter sent.

09/6/07 - Received a 'bugger off' letter.

21/6/07 - LBA letter sent.

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Thanks nanaman.

 

LBA sent off today, 1st class. For my reference: DH839767223GB

 

NatWest:

23/4/07 - Requested statements NatWest

10/5/07 - Received 1st set of statements

12/5/07 - Remaining statements arrived. Proceeding NatWest claim for £2,235.14

14/5/07 - Pre-lim letter sent

01/6/07 - LBA letter sent

22/6/07 - Filed money claim at court! *gasp*

27/7/07 - Received official defence and bully cr*p!

 

LTSB:

23/4/07 - Requested statements LTSB

31/5/07 - List of charges received. Proceeding LTSB claim for £1,407.50

01/6/07 - Pre-lim letter sent.

09/6/07 - Received a 'bugger off' letter.

21/6/07 - LBA letter sent.

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