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    • Agreed, let them default. Keep everything in writing, if they ring to discuss the accounts over the phone, simply say 'everything in writing please', and hang up. They'll soon get the message. Get all of your paperwork in order too, if you haven't got any, or are missing relevant documents, then you can SAR the original creditor, which is free and they have 30 days to supply the info. Keep a diary of events too. sit back and relax, YOU'RE in control, not them.
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Sent my first letter, SAR and have received this reply.

 

"Please be aware that the bank is not under obligation to present information according to any particular format. Therefore, your request to assemble a schedule of charges is turned aside. You may of course obtain this data from copy statements and these will be supplied to you within the next few weeks without charge on this occasion. We would advise however, that statement information prior to 2000 is stored manually rather than on computer. Therefore, if your account was opened prior to this time, there may be an increase in the time required to collate the information you have requested. I apologise in advance should this delay be the cause of any inconvenience to you.

 

As regards your mention of "manual Iintervention", the DPA does not oblige the Bank to comment about internal policies and procedures. Furthermore, in the context of managing day to day ttransactions arising from out of order accounts, the Bank does not hold the information you have requested in a form that would be covered by the DPA. Whilst aggregated information is retained for statistical purposes, this would not constitute "personal data", under the DPA and therefore would not be covered by a s.7 DPA subject access request. For the avoidance of doubt, the fact that we do not generally record information in a way that is caught by the provisions of the DPA, is in no way an admission that there was no such manual intervention.

 

As the Bank is providing the copy statement on a complimentary basis your payment is returned herewith."

 

I am not sure what they are trying to say regarding manual intervention.

Please could someone enlighten me.

 

thanks

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It's a standard letter. Don't worry about it, they're just trying to lay a bit of a smokescreen because they don't want to admit how they deal with charges. If they could prove everything was slaved over by admin staff by hand with each incident taking many hours to resolve they could defend their charges, but as they can't they're just trying to fob you off.

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yep

ignore it.

you wait till the next one in the series.

 

it makes me wonder if they think they 'have' to reply to our requests, just out of delaying tactics

 

dx100uk

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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It's a standard letter. Don't worry about it, they're just trying to lay a bit of a smokescreen because they don't want to admit how they deal with charges. If they could prove everything was slaved over by admin staff by hand with each incident taking many hours to resolve they could defend their charges, but as they can't they're just trying to fob you off.

 

Many thanks for that. Cant wait for the next instalment from the Bank

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It's a standard letter. Don't worry about it, they're just trying to lay a bit of a smokescreen because they don't want to admit how they deal with charges. If they could prove everything was slaved over by admin staff by hand with each incident taking many hours to resolve they could defend their charges, but as they can't they're just trying to fob you off.

 

 

Many thanks for your reply

 

Gertrude

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granted.

 

more tea vicar....

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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hehe

 

i did that just before the tv prog and ofcourse the sig have only just come back

 

how emm.....:lol:

 

dx100uk:idea:

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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