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    • further polished WS using above suggestions and also included couple of more modifications highlighted in orange are those ok to include?   Background   1.1  The Defendant received the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) on the 06th of January 2020 following the vehicle being parked at Arla Old Dairy, South Ruislip on the 05th of December 2019.   Unfair PCN   2.1  On 19th December 2023 the Defendant sent the Claimant's solicitors a CPR request.  As shown in Exhibit 1 (pages 7-13) sent by the solicitors the signage displayed in their evidence clearly shows a £60.00 parking charge notice (which will be reduced to £30 if paid within 14 days of issue).  2.2  Yet the PCN sent by the Claimant is for a £100.00 parking charge notice (reduced to £60 if paid within 30 days of issue).   2.3        The Claimant relies on signage to create a contract.  It is unlawful for the Claimant to write that the charge is £60 on their signs and then send demands for £100.    2.4        The unlawful £100 charge is also the basis for the Claimant's Particulars of Claim.  No Locus Standi  3.1  I do not believe a contract with the landowner, that is provided following the defendant’s CPR request, gives MET Parking Services a right to bring claims in their own name. Definition of “Relevant contract” from the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4,  2 [1] means a contract Including a contract arising only when the vehicle was parked on the relevant land between the driver and a person who is-   (a) the owner or occupier of the land; or   (b) Authorised, under or by virtue of arrangements made by the owner or occupier of the land, to enter into a contract with the driver requiring the payment of parking charges in respect of the parking of the vehicle on the land. According to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/section/44   For a contract to be valid, it requires a director from each company to sign and then two independent witnesses must confirm those signatures.   3.2  The Defendant requested to see such a contract in the CPR request.  The fact that no contract has been produced with the witness signatures present means the contract has not been validly executed. Therefore, there can be no contract established between MET Parking Services and the motorist. Even if “Parking in Electric Bay” could form a contract (which it cannot), it is immaterial. There is no valid contract.  Illegal Conduct – No Contract Formed   4.1 At the time of writing, the Claimant has failed to provide the following, in response to the CPR request from myself.   4.2        The legal contract between the Claimant and the landowner (which in this case is Standard Life Investments UK) to provide evidence that there is an agreement in place with landowner with the necessary authority to issue parking charge notices and to pursue payment by means of litigation.   4.3 Proof of planning permission granted for signage etc under the Town and country Planning Act 1990. Lack of planning permission is a criminal offence under this Act and no contract can be formed where criminality is involved.   4.4        I also do not believe the claimant possesses these documents.   No Keeper Liability   5.1        The defendant was not the driver at the time and date mentioned in the PCN and the claimant has not established keeper liability under schedule 4 of the PoFA 2012. In this matter, the defendant puts it to the claimant to produce strict proof as to who was driving at the time.   5.2 The claimant in their Notice To Keeper also failed to comply with PoFA 2012 Schedule 4 section 9[2][f] while mentioning “the right to recover from the keeper so much of that parking charge as remains unpaid” where they did not include statement “(if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met)”.     5.3         The claimant did not mention parking period, times on the photographs are separate from the PCN and in any case are that arrival and departure times not the parking period since their times include driving to and from the parking space as a minimum and can include extra time to allow pedestrians and other vehicles to pass in front.    Protection of Freedoms Act 2012   The notice must -   (a) specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;  22. In the persuasive judgement K4GF167G - Premier Park Ltd v Mr Mathur - Horsham County Court – 5 January 2024 it was on this very point that the judge dismissed this claim.  5.4  A the PCN does not comply with the Act the Defendant as keeper is not liable.  No Breach of Contract   6.1       No breach of contract occurred because the PCN and contract provided as part of the defendant’s CPR request shows different post code, PCN shows HA4 0EY while contract shows HA4 0FY. According to PCN defendant parked on HA4 0EY which does not appear to be subject to the postcode covered by the contract.  6.2         The entrance sign does not mention anything about there being other terms inside the car park so does not offer a contract which makes it only an offer to treat,  Interest  7.1  It is unreasonable for the Claimant to delay litigation for  Double Recovery   7.2  The claim is littered with made-up charges.  7.3  As noted above, the Claimant's signs state a £60 charge yet their PCN is for £100.  7.4  As well as the £100 parking charge, the Claimant seeks recovery of an additional £70.  This is simply a poor attempt to circumvent the legal costs cap at small claims.  7.5 Since 2019, many County Courts have considered claims in excess of £100 to be an abuse of process leading to them being struck out ab initio. An example, in the Caernarfon Court in VCS v Davies, case No. FTQZ4W28 on 4th September 2019, District Judge Jones-Evans stated “Upon it being recorded that District Judge Jones- Evans has over a very significant period of time warned advocates (...) in many cases of this nature before this court that their claim for £60 is unenforceable in law and is an abuse of process and is nothing more than a poor attempt to go behind the decision of the Supreme Court v Beavis which inter alia decided that a figure of £160 as a global sum claimed in this case would be a penalty and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss and therefore unenforceable in law and if the practice continued, he would treat all cases as a claim for £160 and therefore a penalty and unenforceable in law it is hereby declared (…) the claim is struck out and declared to be wholly without merit and an abuse of process.”  7.6 In Claim Nos. F0DP806M and F0DP201T, District Judge Taylor echoed earlier General Judgment or Orders of District Judge Grand, stating ''It is ordered that the claim is struck out as an abuse of process. The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the Defendant contracted to pay. This additional charge is not recoverabl15e under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4 nor with reference to the judgment in Parking Eye v Beavis. It is an abuse of process from the Claimant to issue a knowingly inflated claim for an additional sum which it is not entitled to recover. This order has been made by the court of its own initiative without a hearing pursuant to CPR Rule 3.3(4)) of the Civil Procedure Rules 1998...''  7.7 In the persuasive case of G4QZ465V - Excel Parking Services Ltd v Wilkinson – Bradford County Court -2 July 2020 (Exhibit 4) the judge had decided that Excel had won. However, due to Excel adding on the £60 the Judge dismissed the case.  7.8        The addition of costs not previously specified on signage are also in breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015, Schedule 2, specifically paras 6, 10 and 14.   7.9        It is the Defendant’s position that the Claimant in this case has knowingly submitted inflated costs and thus the entire claim should be similarly struck out in accordance with Civil Procedure Rule 3.3(4).   In Conclusion   8.1        I invite the court to dismiss the claim.  Statement of Truth  I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.   
    • Well the difference is that in all our other cases It was Kev who was trying to entrap the motorist so sticking two fingers up to him and daring him to try court was from a position of strength. In your case, sorry, you made a mistake so you're not in the position of strength.  I've looked on Google Maps and the signs are few & far between as per Kev's MO, but there is an entrance sign saying "Pay & Display" (and you've admitted in writing that you knew you had to pay) and the signs by the payment machines do say "Sea View Car Park" (and you've admitted in writing you paid the wrong car park ... and maybe outed yourself as the driver). Something I missed in my previous post is that the LoC is only for one ticket, not two. Sorry, but it's impossible to definitively advise what to so. Personally I'd probably gamble on Kev being a serial bottler of court and reply with a snotty letter ridiculing the signage (given you mentioned the signage in your appeal) - but it is a gamble.  
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I will wait till ive got my statements, i like the idea of contractual interest.. ive had a good look around and i dont quite understand it, i understand the standard 8% which seems easier, if not less.. When i get my statements and work it all out, we shall see... I may need an A to Z idiots guide to help me out with the contractual stuff...

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Whats the average waiting time for acknowledgment and actually recieving statements from Halifax Credit Cards? Anyone got a rought idea?

 

When i did my bank account i had my statements within 3 weeks. Just wondered if credit cards worked out about the same even though admin is from a different area.

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all contractual interest is the interest the bank charges you for the serivce they provide(i.e. within the contract), be it an overdraft, credit card usage or whatever. They generally have an authorised rate, and an unauthorised rate (when your "over" your overdraft limit). You just find out these rates, and use either one(depending on hoe "cheeky" your feeling) instead of the 8% allowed by the courts. It really increases your claim, so worth looknig into. and you can awalays claim 8% in the alternative at the judges discretion! can't lose really.

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Bored and impatient so just thought id add to my thread LMAO... ben looking through details about contractual and just tried to download the Vamp Excell form but kept saying 404 url error.. ven though the contractual seems difficult to understand im sure i will manage..

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Contractual can seem a bit daunting at first. Vampiress's spreadsheets are down for some work at the moment. It might be an idea to just go for statutory for one of the accounts first just to get comfortable with the whole process. After all your claims start the month you sent your S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) so there is nothing lost by waiting to process the other 2. Happy reading and good luck. Sally

 

 

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eggopp, have had trouble with spreadys too, wanted no. 13 to do hubbys spreadsheet but Tanz has e-mailed me (I think no. 16) so will get started on that this evening, bit more complicated but I will keep at it.

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Rang Halifax Credit cards today to chase up my Statements as its been 4 weeks and nothing heard not even an acknowledgment... Was met with a very rude man who was abusive.. and when i asked to speak to his supervisor was put on hold for seveal minutes before being told the 'supervisor' refused to speak to me...

 

Guess their getting ticked off with us demanding our money back LMAO.. anyway he was so rude he wouldnt even tell me his name. :eek: still just under 2 weeks to go then i will report them if ive not recieved anything..

 

Especially as they cashed my cheque on the 7th Feb!!

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This friday is the last of their 40 days... still no statements, they wont acknowledge me the phone coz i cant remember my old passwords and they are very rude... ahh its gonna be a pleasure to send in my prelim ect

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just to let you know, halifax sent half my statements requested and then i allowed them 14 more days after the 40 days were up as a "goodwill gesture" and then i sent them a letter threatening reporting and stating my treatment. Recieved them a few days later with an apology.:D Ive now been settled £685 in full.

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Ive just written a reminder of there obligations.. hehe take a look

 

Wednesday, March 07, 2007

The Manager

Halifax Card Services

Pitreavie Business Park

Dunfermline

Fife

KY99 4BS

Dear Sir/Madam

 

ACCOUNT NUMBER: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

ACCOUNT NUMBER: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

ACCOUNT NUMBER: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

On 27th January I sent you a letter dated 24 January 2007 in relation to a subject access request under the Data Protection Act 1998.

On 29 January this letter was received by your department and was signed for as it was sent recorded delivery, a copy of that receipt provided by Royal Mail is enclosed. On 7th February 2007 our cheque for £10 covering the cost of the subject access request was cashed.

As the 40 days is quickly coming to its close, I feel it is appropriate to remind you of your responsibility and that; should I fail to receive full documentation as requested in my original letter (Enclosed) I will be left with no alternative but to take further action and report you to the appropriate authority; in addition to applying to the court to obtain information should it be required.

In addition to this, I have made several phone calls to your office and have been met by very rude and unprofessional members of staff who have been most uncooperative which; further strengthens my desire to obtain the appropriate information.

The close date of the 40 days permitted for subject access request is this Friday 9th March. I trust that this is in fact in hand and that I will receive my information in a timely manner. I am of course expecting all of the information requested. In addition, in relation to manual interventions, I am fully aware that there has been manual interventions during the application process for the above accounts. This is inclusive of telephone conversation between under writers and my local branch in Swindon via Mr Tony Hawnt and his colleague who shared his job role. Further more I have had conversations at that time with your under writers in respect of these accounts.

As your recorded messages indicate when making telephone contact, all telephone calls are recorded for the purpose of training and security I would like copies of all my telephone conversation transcripts as part of the manual interventions.

I trust you will be fully cooperative in this matter and I look forward to receiving our statements on Friday.

Yours Sincerely

Eggie

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Just need to complete three seperate spead sheets for each account now, very disappointed though each account only had £175 of charges on, oddly enough tho.. all the same amounts.. freaky thought there would have been a lot more..

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