UKPC parking invoice - tesco Faraday retail park,Coatbank Street, Coatbridge. ML5 3SQ scotland

[buzby]

I'm not sure how many time you want this to be said, but especially for you; M_ali786

 

Igore all further correspondence from UKPC, and their associated companies.

[disputeyourticket]

hi there, firstly DO NOT ADMIT YOU ARE THE DRIVER it is for them to proove you were the driver, all you have had is a invoice for breach of contract between you and the land owner, it is for them to proove you were the driver, they will threaten you with all sorts but take no notice, bailiffs is scare mungaring tacktic to make you pay DON'T they have to take you to court to win the case before bailifs are innvolved, if they do take you to court which is highly unlikley all you have to say is who was the driver in breach of the contract? just because i am the registerd keeper does not mean i was driving at the time, it like, i have a bottle of milk in the fidge but don't mean i have a cow in the garden. when they throw the\case out claim costs. before you go to court ask for a copy of the defence and statements, (you are entitled to them) that surport there claim, they have no gounds, your not worh fighting with, they no this, it is easy to scare others that will pay. let me know how you get on.

Edited March 7, 2009 by disputeyourticket

[disputeyourticket]

hi there, firstly DO NOT ADMIT YOU ARE THE DRIVER it is for them to proove you were the driver, all you have had is a invoice for breach of contract between you and the land owner, it is for them to proove you were the driver, they will threaten you with all sorts but take no notice, bailiffs is scare mungaring tacktic to make you pay DON'T they have to take you to court to win the case before bailifs are innvolved, if they do take you to court which is highly unlikley all you have to say is who was the driver in breach of the contract? just because i am the registerd keeper does not mean i was driving at the time, it like, i have a bottle of milk in the fidge but don't mean i have a cow in the garden. when they throw the\case out claim costs. before you go to court ask for a copy of the defence and statements, (you are entitled to them) that surport there claim, they have no gounds, your not worh fighting with, they no this, it is easy to scare others that will pay. let me know how you get on.

good site keep it up!

[Sepherz]

To All

 

just for resurance, ignoring these letters and threats, is this something that everyone would do. please can you let me know for a peace of mind.

 

Once again I thank you for all your help and advise,

 

Regards

 

Hi there,

 

You should read some of the different pages, alot of people have done nothing and ignored the letters resulting in UKPC giving up on them.

 

I am currently on my 2nd letter, I am not entitled to my 50% discount anymore

 

I was due a letter this morning, but nothing has come so I guess I'll be getting one Monday. I know the letters are big red and frightening but stick by it.

Even if it does go to court, there are a lot of people to help you through it if it ever gets that far. And from what I've read, UKPC have gave up before its got to that stage

[lamma]

UKPC paper that I have seen is unlawful and arguably illegal. see http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/parking-traffic-offences/164651-problems-ppcs-face.html?highlight=problems+ppc+face and FAQs - PPCs - fighting back. The forces are aligned

[M_ali786]

Hi everyone

thank you for your help, I'm sorry of I sound very nervious its just that I'm fed up with all these companies [causing problems] and robbing innocent perople. espically with out understanding and justice.

 

just a query if I go shopping again and car my in the retail car park which is being monitered by UKPC. if the UKPC notice my on their system as an unpaid ticket, will UKPC clamp or tow away my car?

Please advise

[buzby]

For goodness sake. You give them a lot of credit for a bunch of cowboys. We've seen no evidence of any tabulation or correlation of data, and under the Data Protection Act, it would be illegal for them to process your personal data unless you gave them permission.

 

So in answer to your query, ib you got 10 tickets from them, and were about to clamp your car because of outstanding INVOICES you refused to pay, they cannot clamp you (as this would be extortion).

[the_freedom_trail]

Hi everyone

 

thank you for your help, I'm sorry of I sound very nervious its just that I'm fed up with all these companies [causing problems] and robbing innocent perople. espically with out understanding and justice.

 

just a query if I go shopping again and car my in the retail car park which is being monitered by UKPC. if the UKPC notice my on their system as an unpaid ticket, will UKPC clamp or tow away my car?

 

Please advise

 

 

This would be an act of car theft and no different to me breaking in to your car and driving it away. Likewise you could make a complaint to the Police; therefore, no they will not tow your car. As previously mentioned, clamping in these circumstances would amount to extortion. Honestly, you do credit these guys we a serious amount of power and intelligence - most of them are as thick as bricks which is why they often end up doing such a job.

 

TFT

[lamma]

Its a mail [problem].

[M_ali786]

hi there, firstly DO NOT ADMIT YOU ARE THE DRIVER it is for them to proove you were the driver, all you have had is a invoice for breach of contract between you and the land owner, it is for them to proove you were the driver, they will threaten you with all sorts but take no notice, bailiffs is scare mungaring tacktic to make you pay DON'T they have to take you to court to win the case before bailifs are innvolved, if they do take you to court which is highly unlikley all you have to say is who was the driver in breach of the contract? just because i am the registerd keeper does not mean i was driving at the time, it like, i have a bottle of milk in the fidge but don't mean i have a cow in the garden. when they throw the\case out claim costs. before you go to court ask for a copy of the defence and statements, (you are entitled to them) that surport there claim, they have no gounds, your not worh fighting with, they no this, it is easy to scare others that will pay. let me know how you get on.

 

Thanks mate I will keep you updated,,,,I have a query,,,,if I park my car in another retail car park which is monitored by UKPC, will they reconise my car on their system and clamp or tow it away,,,

 

what you think,,,,please advise

[lamma]

No they won't - that would be extremely unlawful and very illegal if they did. If they even threaten to do so then they are unlawful and illegal. Its a mail [problem].

[M_ali786]

Hi Guys

 

I just want to take the moment to thank you all for your help and advise,

 

This is a great web site,,,please do keep it up..

 

I appologise for repeating my self at times.

 

Kind Regards

 

Mohammed Ali

[Mr_Eee]

Ok, so now we ALL know not to communicate with them..... (blimey!)

 

I should have had a visit from their 'debt' collectors well over a week ago now, still no visit, LOL

 

Does anyone know what the next communication will be from them?

Is it the letter that says they will now decrease the charges?

[crem]

 

I should have had a visit from their 'debt' collectors well over a week ago now, still no visit, LOL

 

I hope you haven't been waiting in special for them.

[lamma]

I bet the cake got stale. Look what they missed. We should have a competition to see who can get them them to call anywhere (more than 15 miles from their office say we say ?).

[muddywheeler]

Ok, so now we ALL know not to communicate with them..... (blimey!)

 

I should have had a visit from their 'debt' collectors well over a week ago now, still no visit, LOL

 

Does anyone know what the next communication will be from them?

Is it the letter that says they will now decrease the charges?

 

once you have had this letter, a solicitors letter arrives advising you if you don't pay in 7 days, and that the costs will rise if you don't pay and that the sky will fall in on you or word to that effect, next I received a final warning 21 days after the last letter, this tells me a county court order will be sent in 7 days, that was 14 days ago, I have replied in a similar format to their letter giving them a final notice to stop this harassment, if I do receive another letter I intend to go to the police, TV and papers, as in our area, a chap, has just done a 48hr sit in his vehicle over clamping and its front page headlines, guess what the clamps were taken off as a welfare group paid the fine lol ANYWAY advice to anyone getting a parking fine [problem] don’t pay incidentally my request to the DVLA under the freedom of information act for a copy of the V888/3 form has had no response as yet. good luck to all.

[DDWales]

As above. You will get a 'final' letter, then a 'final, final' letter (see a pattern emerging here!) The last one (but not always) offers to decrease the amount. Its basically a begging letter because thier desperate for your cash and by lowering the amount bet on the fact that you'll pay. If you do get one post it up here if you can washed of details. The posters in the forum like a good laugh!

[crem]

incidentally my request to the DVLA under the freedom of information act for a copy of the V888/3 form has had no response as yet. good luck to all.

 

If you asked for it under a FOIA they may not respond because you don't need a an FOI request to ask for information regarding yourself. Ironically therefore, although you are entitled to the information because it is about you, they do not have to act on a FOI request because the request is not valid.

 

Write to them again, but simply as the RK requesting what 888/3 submissions have been lodged against you/your car.

[muddywheeler]

I write with attention to the above parking notice. As the registered keeper of this vehicle I cannot be held liable as any contract can only be formed with the driver. Any further communication from yourselves, other than notification of cancellation of the ticket and any purported charges, will be regarded as harassment and reported to the authorities. At this time I have also spoken to the local newspaper about these charges whom are considering running a story about this. I have also contacted a tabloid newspaper and I m awaiting there return call.

Without prejudice

 

 

This is a copy of my letter what do you think??????

 

Hi bankbustermum, one should never put without prejudice on a letter like this as it I believe it restricts its legality in a court of law and can not be produced as evidence, can anyone else verify this?

[the_freedom_trail]

Hi bankbustermum, one should never put without prejudice on a letter like this as it I believe it restricts its legality in a court of law and can not be produced as evidence, can anyone else verify this?

 

Yes, by writing without prejudice you are trying to ensure that what you have written will not prejudice any future legal action. For example, a bank typically makes a without prejudice offer to refund bank charges (in the cases they do). This means that you cannot claim that making the refund was an admission of guilt on their behalf. I see no reason why you would need to write without prejudice in this instance.

 

TFT

[Al27]

Why are you writing to them in the first place. Instead of 'cancelling' anything, their eyes will light up and they'll send you MORE letters.

 

Just ignore.

[lamma]

its a V888/2 form that PPCs use.

[Fourmanbob]

Hi newbie here, My vehicle received a 'ticket' from UKPC today, the ticket stated it was on a retail park with the street name but no town ( could be anywhere in the country) the best part is the alleged contravention. The box ticked is - Vehicle owner left side. I wonder what that means, they must rush to get their tickets printed that they don't check the spelling. I think someone at the printers either has a sense of humour or has been stung by these [problematic] and is getting his own back.

No doubt the junk mail will be arriving in the next few weeks but I want to get to the stage where I receive the phone calls from the debt collectors nothing better then winding people up like them. Cheers

[Linus27]

Hi all,

 

I have also received a parking ticket from UKPC at the Solatron Car Park in Farnborough. The ticket says that the owner left the vehicle. Well, thats true, because I was in the shops. I double checked before hand if the car park to these shops was a pay and display which it was not and so went into the shops. I then saw the warden put the ticket on my car. I asked him if this car park was pay and display and he said no. So I asked why he gave me a ticket with his reply being you left your vehicle. I said because I was in the shops. He just shrugged his shoulders and said I think you left your vehicle. I then continued to shop and left.

 

I received my first letter today. Its pretty funny as the photo is just the front of my car showing the number plate and the lights. The photo could have been taken anywhere. No proof whatsoever that I was parked in the car park.

 

Anyway, the other good news is the car actually belongs to my wife and is in her name.

 

So, I am just wondering, what is the best way to fight this?

 

Write back in my wife's name saying that she is the registered owner and keeper but was not the driver and ask them to please take it up with the driver.

 

or

 

Contest it stating that I was in the shops and that I have a receipt to prove it.

 

I kind of think I should get my wife to contest as she was not the driver as I get the feeling UKPC will just ignore my claim I was in the shops at the time.

 

Any advice would be really appreciated.

[raydetinu]

Linus , I know you may think you have a problem, but did you research this topic by reading the previuos replys and threads, then you would have come to your own conclusion that you have nothing to worry about; just ignore everything, do not repond, they will ignore your protestations etc. They just want people to pay: end of: its a [problem]. Get on with your lfe and enjoy.