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Hi noob. Just noticed you were from Bradford as I am (great plach eh? :rolleyes: ) so I read through your thread. Disappointed to learn that the Judges here don't strike out the bank's defences even though they never intend to actually defend. Will be watching and good luck!

Abbey - *SETTLED IN FULL!* ;)

-£445 refunded after one phonecall

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Lloyds - Reclaiming Charges ***WON!***

-09/05/07 - Prelim delivered

-22/05/07 - LBA sent - no response

-11/07/07 - Filed at court

- 26/07/07 - Full settlement offer!!!! Donation made ;)

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Next - Trying to Sue us with no agreement! :lol:

-29/06/07 - Defence filed

-16/08/07 - AQ filed

-19/09/07 - Claim struck out!! :p

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Hi noob, I understand your complete and utter fustration with this timewaisting game with Abbey. I am still awaiting my court date now after the preliminary, I called the courts yesterday, who said they are trying to find a two hour slot for the hearing,as they are so busy, this is proving difficult. It just gets me so much that they are not just waisting our time but also that of admin staff , judge etc. Obviously, I will eat my words if it goes to court!! Have you heard anything yet?

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No nothing, I have resigned myself to the long wait. The directions hearing will be a telephone affair and I just hope it goes as per the last claim and the judge follows the draft directions and then it will be settled within a fortnight.

 

The other thing is I'm playing a lay low tactic in the hope that Abbey forget about the hearing, don't turn up. and the judge orders something else...like immediate judgement

Abbey £4340.59 *WON* Jan 07

 

Abbey II MCOL 31/03/07 £8800.00

 

Please note..I AM NOT AN EXPERT ANYTHING WHAT I POST IS PURELY MY OPINION AND MAY BE WRONG IT IS JUST BASED ON MY UNDERSTANDING OR EXPERIENCE

 

Read my latest claim its a fast track potentially

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/abbey-bank/61406-noobrider-abbey-take-2-a.html?highlight=noobrider

 

read my first claim which includes attending a directions hearing in court

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/abbey-bank/10576-noobrider-abbey.html?highlight=noobrider

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well I had some news today... I'm going to be a grandad.....!!!! I'm too young to be a grandad...I feel old now.....

Abbey £4340.59 *WON* Jan 07

 

Abbey II MCOL 31/03/07 £8800.00

 

Please note..I AM NOT AN EXPERT ANYTHING WHAT I POST IS PURELY MY OPINION AND MAY BE WRONG IT IS JUST BASED ON MY UNDERSTANDING OR EXPERIENCE

 

Read my latest claim its a fast track potentially

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/abbey-bank/61406-noobrider-abbey-take-2-a.html?highlight=noobrider

 

read my first claim which includes attending a directions hearing in court

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/abbey-bank/10576-noobrider-abbey.html?highlight=noobrider

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OK a little light at the end of this long tunnel. After an extrememly productive conversation with GaryH our resident guru, I have decided to issue a CPR Part 18 request to Abbey to ask for information regarding the breakdown of their charges. The reason for this is to force their hand somewhat and attempt to gain an early settlement.

 

Before everyone jumps on the bandwagon and attempts to do this themselves there are a few reasons why I am able to go down this route.

 

The first is that it has yet to receive allocation to any track. CPR Part 18's are rarely granted on small claims and as this claim is for £9k it has the potential to go fast track. This makes it more reasonable that it may be granted.

 

The second is that Abbey's stock defence clearly states that their charges are are fair estimate of their losses so my argument is to ask for this information which could also pre empt an order by the judge for me to have the burden of proof as has happened with Spicesters directions.

 

Finally I can submit this request before my directions hearing on the above stated pre emption that the Judge could potentially request this.

 

please do not attempt this unless you have the potential to go fast track or if you have got to a further stage than myself and definately don't attempt it without a very good understanding of the implications and certainly not without taking further advice. I will post the exact request tomorrow once I have selected the wording that I wish to use and remember this is the initial request and not an order request. If Abbey fail to comply within 14 days I will apply to the courts to have it made into an order and there is still the potential that the court may turn this down.

 

I intend to send it by post but also by email to Inga with the hope that this will instigate some sort of negotiations toward settlement.

 

Wish me luck

Abbey £4340.59 *WON* Jan 07

 

Abbey II MCOL 31/03/07 £8800.00

 

Please note..I AM NOT AN EXPERT ANYTHING WHAT I POST IS PURELY MY OPINION AND MAY BE WRONG IT IS JUST BASED ON MY UNDERSTANDING OR EXPERIENCE

 

Read my latest claim its a fast track potentially

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/abbey-bank/61406-noobrider-abbey-take-2-a.html?highlight=noobrider

 

read my first claim which includes attending a directions hearing in court

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/abbey-bank/10576-noobrider-abbey.html?highlight=noobrider

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Well I emailed Inga my CPR Part 18 today giving her 14 days to respond. Lets see what comes out of that. I also posted a hard copy to her so she has some work to do now. Here's hoping it brings about the desired result.

Abbey £4340.59 *WON* Jan 07

 

Abbey II MCOL 31/03/07 £8800.00

 

Please note..I AM NOT AN EXPERT ANYTHING WHAT I POST IS PURELY MY OPINION AND MAY BE WRONG IT IS JUST BASED ON MY UNDERSTANDING OR EXPERIENCE

 

Read my latest claim its a fast track potentially

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/abbey-bank/61406-noobrider-abbey-take-2-a.html?highlight=noobrider

 

read my first claim which includes attending a directions hearing in court

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/abbey-bank/10576-noobrider-abbey.html?highlight=noobrider

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Just had a reply from Inga.

 

Please refer to our address for service nominated on our acknowledgement of service.

Kind regards,

Inga Kirkman

Abbey £4340.59 *WON* Jan 07

 

Abbey II MCOL 31/03/07 £8800.00

 

Please note..I AM NOT AN EXPERT ANYTHING WHAT I POST IS PURELY MY OPINION AND MAY BE WRONG IT IS JUST BASED ON MY UNDERSTANDING OR EXPERIENCE

 

Read my latest claim its a fast track potentially

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/abbey-bank/61406-noobrider-abbey-take-2-a.html?highlight=noobrider

 

read my first claim which includes attending a directions hearing in court

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/abbey-bank/10576-noobrider-abbey.html?highlight=noobrider

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Oooooo you tinker you! ;)

 

I wonder if Pingu Kirkman has deliberately re-directed your request because it's beyond her abilities or scope. One hopes so........ nice one. :D

srfrench :eek:

 

Fight incompetance, stupidity, greed and unfairness......There's no excuse and no place for it in society, unless they really are! :wink:

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Well I just forwarded the mail into [email protected] which is the only service address listed

Abbey £4340.59 *WON* Jan 07

 

Abbey II MCOL 31/03/07 £8800.00

 

Please note..I AM NOT AN EXPERT ANYTHING WHAT I POST IS PURELY MY OPINION AND MAY BE WRONG IT IS JUST BASED ON MY UNDERSTANDING OR EXPERIENCE

 

Read my latest claim its a fast track potentially

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/abbey-bank/61406-noobrider-abbey-take-2-a.html?highlight=noobrider

 

read my first claim which includes attending a directions hearing in court

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/abbey-bank/10576-noobrider-abbey.html?highlight=noobrider

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I tried that address, and it bounced, i think she means posting it to Triton Square

Lula

 

Lula v Abbey - Settled

Lula v Abbey (2) - Settled

Lula v Abbey (3) - Stayed

 

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well I haven't had a bounce yet from BCT in fact I have in the past had an acknowledgement from them

Abbey £4340.59 *WON* Jan 07

 

Abbey II MCOL 31/03/07 £8800.00

 

Please note..I AM NOT AN EXPERT ANYTHING WHAT I POST IS PURELY MY OPINION AND MAY BE WRONG IT IS JUST BASED ON MY UNDERSTANDING OR EXPERIENCE

 

Read my latest claim its a fast track potentially

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/abbey-bank/61406-noobrider-abbey-take-2-a.html?highlight=noobrider

 

read my first claim which includes attending a directions hearing in court

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/abbey-bank/10576-noobrider-abbey.html?highlight=noobrider

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ok 7 days has passed and no response from abbey. I have sent a reminder advising that there are only 7 days left to comply however I could do with some advice on the next stage.ie making it a court order and whether Abbey have to provide a reason for non compliance with the original request?

Abbey £4340.59 *WON* Jan 07

 

Abbey II MCOL 31/03/07 £8800.00

 

Please note..I AM NOT AN EXPERT ANYTHING WHAT I POST IS PURELY MY OPINION AND MAY BE WRONG IT IS JUST BASED ON MY UNDERSTANDING OR EXPERIENCE

 

Read my latest claim its a fast track potentially

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/abbey-bank/61406-noobrider-abbey-take-2-a.html?highlight=noobrider

 

read my first claim which includes attending a directions hearing in court

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/abbey-bank/10576-noobrider-abbey.html?highlight=noobrider

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Hi Noobrider,

Surely Shabbey should have seen where they have refunded you bank charges in the past and not to make things difficult and just pay up. Stupid they are, it just goes to show that they have money to 'burn' as it would make sense settle before 8% interest is being applied. Anyway, good luck. I know that u are going to win them again.

 

Andy

ANDY VS ABBEY 23rd April 2007 -

 

'Don't get mad, get even'

'Patience is a virture'

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apologies for a bump

Abbey £4340.59 *WON* Jan 07

 

Abbey II MCOL 31/03/07 £8800.00

 

Please note..I AM NOT AN EXPERT ANYTHING WHAT I POST IS PURELY MY OPINION AND MAY BE WRONG IT IS JUST BASED ON MY UNDERSTANDING OR EXPERIENCE

 

Read my latest claim its a fast track potentially

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/abbey-bank/61406-noobrider-abbey-take-2-a.html?highlight=noobrider

 

read my first claim which includes attending a directions hearing in court

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/abbey-bank/10576-noobrider-abbey.html?highlight=noobrider

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very annoying although there have been a few payouts so far this week, all around 2 weeks before a court date. I don't think my cpr part 18 is having any effect on abbey at all

Abbey £4340.59 *WON* Jan 07

 

Abbey II MCOL 31/03/07 £8800.00

 

Please note..I AM NOT AN EXPERT ANYTHING WHAT I POST IS PURELY MY OPINION AND MAY BE WRONG IT IS JUST BASED ON MY UNDERSTANDING OR EXPERIENCE

 

Read my latest claim its a fast track potentially

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/abbey-bank/61406-noobrider-abbey-take-2-a.html?highlight=noobrider

 

read my first claim which includes attending a directions hearing in court

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/abbey-bank/10576-noobrider-abbey.html?highlight=noobrider

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It would seem the case, foxy fiona 2 weeks is up today too. I also know someone that dealt with Halifax by way of asimple call and no statements, to hand , admittedly it was only a small claim.I really cant understand why Abbey havnt made it easier this time for you Noob, it seems ridiculous.

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